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Friday, August 26. 2016
Did this teen pregnancy prevention program have the opposite effect?
Playing with dolls can make girls want real babies? Gee, who knew?
Only 29% of Families on Track to Reach Their College Savings Goal
29% sounds pretty good to me
What about when the self-doubt makes sense?
No Proof That People Are Born Gay or Transgender
So what? Many people are confused about themselves, and about others too.
Doctors Sue Obama Administration for Forcing Them to Perform Gender Transition Procedures
Most surgeons are good at saying "No"
For most people, following emotion will lead to ruin.
World's first self-driving taxis debut in Singapore
Organic Farms Yield 20% Fewer Crops than Conventional Farms
Mission Focus Can Put Pay Squeeze on Nonprofit Employees
The North Atlantic: Ground Zero of Global Cooling
We would appreciate it if Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum would
When Did Bill Nye ‘the Science Guy’ Become So Insufferable?
University of Chicago to freshmen: We don’t do ‘safe spaces’
They just try to ban expressions of dislike. Many forms of expression of love, too. Love creates many more problems in ordinary life than hate does.
Taxpayer-Funded University Grants Students Just 2 Hours of Free Speech Per Week
That's your weekly Two Hours of Hate, I guess
The Burden on Business: 600 Major Regulations and Counting
She is correct
Scarborough to Hillary spox: “Go back to middle school”
For sale, the most brazen president money can buy
Brazen is the word
Every four years the GOP nominee is literally
America’s Allies Deserve to be Disturbed
Western Leaders Want Islamic Terror to Seem ‘Normal’
Ray Mabus’ Social Experiment Navy is Steaming Ahead to Disaster
The real ‘intersectionality’ – European and Arab oppression and persecution of Jews and Africans
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The North Atlantic: Ground Zero of Global Cooling
It's clearly not global.
The regional cooling is probably due to weakening of the Gulf Stream. See Rahmstorf et al., Exceptional twentieth-century slowdown in Atlantic Ocean overturning circulation, Nature 2015.
Citing fake data doesn't make your point.
Real Climate is a fake science site. If you treat info from there as real, it makes you ignorant.
DrTorch: Citing fake data doesn't make your point.
The graph is from a primary source, Rahmstorf 2015. Note it shows cooling in a region of the North Atlantic. Here's a slightly different graph, showing the same trend:
Land & Ocean Temperature Percentiles Jan-Jun 2016
What does Hillary have to do for it to be ‘corruption’?
How about help start a foundation that saves millions of lives?
Why The Clinton Foundation Is Gross ... the Clinton Foundation has been called a shakedown racket because it wasn’t trading access for donations — it was going to people who were already going to get access, and asking them to pay a toll for it.
Of course they hit up rich and powerful people for donations. How did you think it worked?
Zach, been there, done that, we have the same shakedown rackets here. You go meet with a politician in a backroom at the restaurant, the one situated so you can't tell who he's meeting with and has a separate entrance/exit. He tells you he will support your client's bill. And then as you are leaving he hands you four tickets for his son's fundraiser (also running for office) and asks you to also support his "kids charity" in his district (so he looks good to the constituents).
I didn't pay him off. My firm's ethics rules forbid it. My client's bill died in his committee. Client fired me and went to another attorney who would be more "creative."
The specific guy I'm talking about eventually got caught and went to prison for illegal campaign contributions, "gifts" and tax evasion. Much smaller scale than Bill and Hillary but same idea. Difference is they have laws against political corruption here and sometimes they get enforced.
The other point is once corruption starts it rots the whole system. The point of prohibiting payoffs is it is totally inimical to a democratic system. What about all the other people out there who didn't have the money to bribe Bill and Hillary? Basically you are saying it's fine government should be run by a corrupt plutocracy.
The fact is you need to send corrupt politicians away to prison for a long, long time. In China, if they catch you they shoot you. I obviously am not advocating that here, but even in Communist countries they recognize the danger.
Jim: The point of prohibiting payoffs is it is totally inimical to a democratic system.
Sure. And when you have evidence that Clinton sold favors then we can talk.
We cannot help you if you are too blind to see what is right in front of your eyes. Please explain to me why someone from a corrupt dictatorship would be giving money to the Clinton Foundation? Was it to help the poor? Why would a dictator want to donate money to an organization like this?
What about Haiti? Please explain why money donated to Haiti went nowhere. Why taxpayer relief $$ ended up in the pockets of Clinton donors and built nothing for the people of Haiti. Where did the billions go? Please show me actual construction and restoration that would equal billions.
If AP can tie half of Clinton Foundation donors directly to foreigners who had business at the State Department, what is your conclusion? The biggest coincidence ever?
Can you at least admit it looks suspicious and worthy of investigation? Even if it turns up nothing?
MissT: Please explain to me why someone from a corrupt dictatorship would be giving money to the Clinton Foundation?
Some want to make a difference. Some want the positive press that results. For instance, the Crown Prince of Bahrain contributed $32 million in conjunction with the Clinton Global Initiative on an educational program that funds Bahraini students.
MissT: What about Haiti? Please explain why money donated to Haiti went nowhere.
A lot of money was successfully spent in Haiti, though a lot was wasted too. The vast majority of the money came from the Red Cross and the Salvation Army, not the Clinton Foundation.
MissT: If AP can tie half of Clinton Foundation donors directly to foreigners who had business at the State Department, what is your conclusion?
MissT: Can you at least admit it looks suspicious and worthy of investigation?
You've already reached your conclusion. What's the point of facts?
If the investigations were more than partisan attempts to undermine the opposition, then they might be productive. You would probably find that powerful politicians have connections, and connected people have better access to powerful politicians.
Did you know that George H.W. Bush worked for a number of foundations while his son was in office? Of course the elder Bush went to the rich and powerful for donations. Why wouldn't he? Should we investigate the Bushs for their charitable works?
The Clinton Foundation has been a force for good in the world. There's no evidence the Clintons personally benefited from the Foundation. There's no evidence the Clintons sold favors.
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Zachriel: You've already reached your conclusion. What's the point of facts?
We apologize, and withdraw the comment.
Love creates many more problems in ordinary life than hate does.
Of all the stupid shit I've learned on this blog, that leads the pack. That's Z-Bot grade stupid.
It’s Fatuous To Outlaw An Emotion, Especially Hate
The linked article shows a picture of a cat, but doesn't properly represent the story. The man not only posted cats that looked and posed like Hitler, but wrote about death camps, and had Nazi clothing in his home. It's important to properly represent the underlying facts.
While, you may well disagree with criminalizing Nazism, keep in mind that Austria has had, well, historical issues with Nazism. It's similar to laws in some jurisdictions against cross burning when used for intimidation in the U.S.
Cross burning: bad intimidation!
Polar bear hunting/knockout game: good intimidation!
IdahoBob: Polar bear hunting/knockout game: good intimidation!
Good example. The knockout game is illegal, and often charged as hate crimes. Anything else?
Sometimes charged as a hate crime. But I am happy to see you agree that blacks have a long history of violence and rape against whites. Now explain why this wouldn't always be charged as a hate crime.
IdahoBob: But I am happy to see you agree that blacks have a long history of violence and rape against whites.
We provided two examples. One where the perpetrator was white. One where the perpetrator was black.
IdahoBob: Now explain why this wouldn't always be charged as a hate crime.
It's only a hate crime if it is an attack against a protected class, such as race or religion. Either way, it's assault, and is against the law.
But then you have the Trayvon Martin case, a situation of the Knockout Game going bad for the perp because the victim didn't go down on the first cold-cock punch, he resisted and it turned out he also had a gun. (Testimony at trial revealed little Trayvon thought he was going after a gay white guy--he made a bad miscalculation.) And yet although it was an open-and-shut case of self-defense he was charged and tried for murder.
[b]Jim[b/]: But then you have the Trayvon Martin case, a situation of the Knockout Game going bad for the perp because the victim didn't go down on the first cold-cock punch, he resisted and it turned out he also had a gun.
Except it clearly wasn't a knock-out game, but a case of mutual suspicion.
"mutual suspicion"!!?? When was the last time you snuck up on some guy and sucker punched him because he was watching you case houses for burglary? Little Trayvon had Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail drink and was desperately looking for a house to rob hoping to find some Robitusson so he could make some "lean" and get high. Little Trayvon was an uncharged felon because the state of Florida made a decision to not charge black youths for crimes in a silly ass attempt to reduce minority crimes rates. If they had instead charged him it was possible that little Trayvon might have gotten the help he needed and be alive today. If little Trayvon's mother was not out doing drugs and cheap tricks and instead was taking care of her little baby Zimmerman wouldn't have been forced to deliver the tax payer saving shot to end little Trayvon's life of crime. The system and little Trayvon's parents "killed" little Trayvon but not before he tried to kill Zimmerman.
IdahoBob: When was the last time you snuck up on some guy and sucker punched him because he was watching you case houses for burglary?
For some reason, the dead guy didn't testify. From what we do know, it's clear that the parties were afraid of each other.
I wish for you that some day some thug sits on your chest and goes all MMA on you. I do believe that is the only thing that will open your eyes. I will also submit the obvious point that clearly little Trayvon wasn't afraid of Zimmerman because he came out of the shadows and sucker punched him and then proceeded to beat his head in.
IdahoBob: I will also submit the obvious point that clearly little Trayvon wasn't afraid of Zimmerman because he came out of the shadows and sucker punched him and then proceeded to beat his head in.
Martin was on his cell phone at the time, and the girl testified that Martin was concerned about someone following him. It was clearly a case of mutual suspicion.
New York man charged with hate crimes for seven 'knockout' assaults
"Knockout" attack video released in hate crime conviction
"Doesn't properly represent the story."
"It's important to properly represent the underlying facts."
Well now, interesting that you should say that, since you continually represent stories improperly, by those very same methods.
You know what that makes you?
DrTorch: Well now, interesting that you should say that, since you continually represent stories improperly, by those very same methods.
Instead of waving your hands in the direction of vague generalities, you might try to address a specific example on the thread.
The man not only posted cats that looked and posed like Hitler, but wrote about death camps, and had Nazi clothing in his home. It's important to properly represent the underlying facts.
How did this get diverted o/t into Hillary's latest speech about Trump?
Northwest State University, in Louisiana, makes you apply, 24 hours in advance, for a free speech permit. Not only that, you are confined to a specific space, to spout your 'freedom'. How is that free speech?
Zach Borg. You all are hard core lefty's. Why does the left hate free speech?
B Hammer: Northwest State University, in Louisiana, makes you apply, 24 hours in advance, for a free speech permit. Not only that, you are confined to a specific space, to spout your 'freedom'. How is that free speech?
Nearly all jurisdictions require permits for rallies.
B Hammer: Why does the left hate free speech?
Some support more restrictions. Some support fewer restrictions. It's much the same on the political right.
You're kidding, right?
The ACLU fights for the rights of school kids to wear T-shirts with anything they want written on them as free speech (especially if it has an LGBT theme, but I don't recall them complaining about students not being able to wear their NRA T-shirts to school, but that's beside the point). Presumably, the wearer wouldn't be confined to certain areas of campus or certain days where they would be allowed to wear their shirts.
But the left has changed. It started the Free Speech Movement.
The Free Speech Movement (FSM) was a student protest which took place during the 1964–65 academic year on the campus of the University of California, Berkeley under the informal leadership of students Mario Savio, Jack Weinberg, Michael Rossman, Brian Turner, Bettina Aptheker, Steve Weissman, Art Goldberg, Jackie Goldberg, and others. In protests unprecedented in scope, students insisted that the university administration lift the ban of on-campus political activities and acknowledge the students' right to free speech and academic freedom. Sol Stern, a former radical who took part in the Free Speech Movement, stated in a 2014 City Journal article that the group viewed the United States to be both racist and imperialistic and that the main intent after lifting Berkeley's loyalty oath was to build on the legacy of C Wright Mills and weaken the Cold War consensus by promoting the ideas of the Cuban Revolution.
The issue they had sit-ins at Berkeley haven't changed, it's just the other side who's being denied their rights.
Well, maybe they haven't changed that much after all. You can't be taken seriously about free speech if you want to promote the Cuban Revolution. They still are only concerned about their speech (you can hear leftist rants in classrooms all day long, but you need a permit to freely express yourself outside the classroom).
When you habitually argue with a machine, mudbug, do you ever expect a different outcome than the one you see every single time?
Ten: do you ever expect a different outcome than the one you see every single time?
The trick is to respond to the substance (or not at all, of course).
Look everyone, machinery's programming includes the evident lie that it is inherently factual and to not engage it therein and therewith is fallacious.
Lesson: Machinery can be made to perform both good and bad tasks. This is because machinery thinks not, feels not, and has no responsibility.
Don't say you weren't warned.
Not true. If you were honest you would say; the trick is to respond to the easy low hanging fruit and avoid like the plague anything you can't spin.
Correct the Record hasn't programmed its 'bots like that, Bob. I think we all know why.
mudbug: The ACLU fights for the rights of school kids to wear T-shirts with anything they want written on them as free speech (especially if it has an LGBT theme, but I don't recall them complaining about students not being able to wear their NRA T-shirts to school, but that's beside the point).
Appeals Court Rules that NRA T-Shirt is Entitled to Free Speech Protections in School, ACLU of Virginia filed brief in support of NRA and Student
mudbug: But the left has changed.
The ACLU is on the left.
Hey, Science Guy! Did global warming cause the 1927 flood, which inundated several states and left people living on levees for months?
neo-neocon is absolutely 100% full of horseshlt.
1) The media poll numbers are objective, empirically-proven lies, not a figment of the Trump campaign's imagination.
2) People are cautious about coming out for Trump publicly because we no longer live in a free society: we can lose our jobs, our reputations, our property and our lives for advocating opinions that are unpopular with the hard-left. We can be beaten or assaulted on the streets for our opinions, and it never makes the headlines, no one is outraged.
We no longer have freedom of speech or the discretion to make our own decisions about our lives, our families, or our businesses. Look around you; our republic is toast. Fundamental transformation, baby. That has never before factored into a presidential election.
3) Trump is not a weak candidate--have another hit, neo---but an especially strong candidate; he had more primary votes than any other Republican in history. How can you even suggest that someone who has galvanized the public the way that he has--drawing support from a wider base of interests than any Republican before---is a 'weak' candidate?
4) Unlike in the dim, distant past, which is where neo is getting most of the 'rationale' for her so-called argument, the national media is now the naked propaganda arm of the government; there is no longer even any pretense of journalistic integrity. Everyone knows it. Without the media's 24/7 lies, Trump would be 20 points ahead.
Trump's rallies out-draw Clinton's by a factor of 5. If Trump 'loses', it will be strictly because of massive voter fraud, which I have been expecting since 2008. The hard left has been trying to take over the United States since the 1920s. They landed the White House in 2008, and if you think they're giving it up just because we're having a little popular referendum, you're out of your minds.
Neo-neocon must be related to Bill Kristol. Both of them can go jump in the lake.
Losing our children's birthright to a coup de grace from the left is not an option.
Thank you for your comment! I wholeheartedly agree with all of it.
If you look at the 2012 election and the average of polls, in early September Romney and Obama were about 5 points apart. Identical to where we are right now. Yet, no one was calling for Romney to drop out or calling him the worst candidate ever and on a course to losing.
Then, if you look at the shift to a 'close race,' that happened in OCTOBER. The break for Obama did not happen until the very last week in the race.
So, I'm tired of hearing everyone claim doom and gloom for Trump when we are nowhere near the real numbers yet. Just because they were 'wrong' about polling in 2012, doesn't mean they are 'right' currently. They were 'wrong' in September about the state of the race.
We don't know how tight it will become nor when the break will happen at the end. But from my perspective, Hillary is an incredibly weak and flawed candidate. About 10% claim to be undecided. This is a huge number of people. This alone overcomes polling numbers right now, plus the margin of error.
The polls will come down to earth starting some time in October. Unless the pollsters all want to look bad at the end.
I'm confident that the majority of undecideds will break for Trump, and I'm also confident that there will be a better turnout from Trump supporters than from Hillary supporters.
20 comments and half of them written by the Poo-flinging Monkey Brigade? Keep this up and this place will start looking like HuffPo or something. (I'm assuming there's certain trigger words that activate the bots to energize the defensive perimeter lest any wrongthink slip past the wire and nevermind that this is an outpost of the Wrongthink Rebel Alliance.)
"For boomers, Emotions are to be controlled and overcome, they are not to be a guide."
Education, properly a drawing forth, implies not so much the communication of knowledge as the discipline of the intellect, the establishment of the principles, and the regulation of the heart.
So much for the efficacy of the modern "education". Many are indoctrinated, some are schooled, few are educated.
What about when the self-doubt makes sense?
Shhhhh! You'll trigger the Millennials.
Perhaps we're going about this whole election in the wrong manner. Instead stopping Hillary, perhaps we should be pooling our money to buy her and Bill?
The demise of the aircraft carrier has been predicted many times before and will be many times again. Yes, a carrier would be vulnerable to a terminally self-guided hypervelocity or ballistic weapon with a large enough warhead, but so far no threat force has been able to develop one. You need to combine high accuracy, low observability, high speed, and large size into a package that would not require a logistical support and firing base that would be more vulnerable to the US combination of carrier and land-based bombers and strike weapons than the carrier would be to it.
Most of the time half of our carriers are sitting in one of the two major home ports in the U.S. Sitting ducks. Sometimes, typically around Christmas most of our carriers are in their home port. Additionally there are choke points and small "oceans" that we play in where the carriers are not quite sitting ducks but damned close to it. It will Happen. Probably one carrier (only Russia or China would try to take them all out at once). My fear is that it will happen even though we are aware of the increased risk from advanced ship killer missiles.
is this like somebodys'?
are you just keeping it around like a cat with a toy?
as the great general Honore mentioned;
you can't fix stupid!
Hillary’s health: Emails show Clinton obsessed with sleep, “exotic drugs”