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Tuesday, June 21. 2016Tuesday morning links Why extremely rare events keep happening all the time Father’s Day in the Ghetto Overcoming The Fear Of Death - A physician confronts his own mortality. Researchers fail, once again, to find educational gains from public spending on preschool. From 2006, The Howard Zinn Fabrication Show Higher Ed: As the old saying goes, you can’t make up stuff this good. Boris Johnson: Please Vote Leave on Thursday, because we'll never get this chance again How the Democrats Are Disarming Us By suppressing the truth. David Brooks @NYT: We must let the terrorists in or they will kill us Root cause of Orlando massacre? “White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism’ Among Reasons Why did the White House just humiliate Loretta Lynch? The Insidious Power of the Media Disinformation Campaign for Hillary Clinton Hundreds of migrants closed Calais Denmark: Refugees Hold Protest March: Demand Right to Summer Vacation Cues From Kerry: Dissent Is No Longer the Highest Form of Patriotism Allen West: “National Security Strategy based on Obfuscation, Denial, and Lies” The Imperialism of Western Guilt - Bernard Lewis is the rare Western intellectual who doesn’t view non-Western peoples as too inept to make their own mistakes, let alone pay for them. Is Israel a Pariah? Not According to Its New Friends Trackbacks
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My first memory of a crippling fear of death is from my early teen years. Over the years, it has sometimes recurred--not just in response to some particular health threat in myself or a loved one, but the generalized dread that leads so many of us to religion or philosophy. Aside from a faith in God that sometimes enables me to acknowledge that the whole thing is not in my hands and I may as well relax (which is not generally very helpful in a crisis, sadly, in my case at least), the most useful thing I've ever learned is that fear may be unavoidable, but funk is not. The whole trick seems to be to learn to keep doing the right thing despite the fear, just as it is to keep doing the right thing despite anger, hatred, etc. The advice to "get back on the horse" turns out to be the best all-around advice in life for someone like me. Not that I live up to it particularly well, but when I do things get better.
"Freedom's Just Another Word for Nothing Left to Lose..."
....Kris Kristofferson The author of the article is a physician. He has been blessed with SO MUCH and yet he worries and whines about problems that he simply imagines. He needs to grow up, grow a pair, be thankful for all that God has given him and soldier on. What a freakin' cry baby. QUOTE: “National Security Strategy based on Obfuscation, Denial, and Lies” ... if Mateen had gone on a rampage through the Pulse club with a sword, knife, machete, or hammers, where would the discussion be one week later? The death toll would have been far less. Or with a bomb, likely more.
And for real numbers, a jet works great. BTW, you still didn't answer the "what would the discussion be?" question. Assistant Village Idiot: Or with a bomb, likely more.
Explosives are regulated. Wonder why that is ... Assistant Village Idiot: And for real numbers, a jet works great. The 9-11 attacks were not perpetrated by a lone wolf, but was a coordinated international conspiracy. Presumably, the U.S. has taken action to help forestall the use of commercial aircraft for such a purpose in the future. Yes, they are regulated, and it doesn't seem to prevent those horrible events. It's a pretty good illustration of how limited regulations are in deterring criminals.
You believe that restricting access to guns you disapprove of will somehow make us safer. I can see why that idea would occur to people. It seems to make sense. Unfortunately, it has not held up in practice. Regulators keep their focus on things that they can change but do no good, because they dare not examine the ugly truths of violent crime - things they have no control over. Assistant Village Idiot: they are regulated, and it doesn't seem to prevent those horrible events.
Are you really claiming that if possession of explosives were legal that it wouldn't lead to an increase in their use? Seriously?
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Zachriel
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2016-06-21 17:17
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Explosives aren't that hard to come by. Basic ammonium nitrate fertilizer works well. It's been used in mining operations for many years. Just have to sort out the detonator problem.
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Frances
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2016-06-22 00:17
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The U.S. regulates ammonium nitrate, but implementation has been stymied by industry. However, agricultural use, and therefore access, has declined.
http://www.dallasnews.com/investigations/20131005-ammonium-nitrate-sold-by-ton-as-u.s.-regulation-is-stymied.ece
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Zachriel
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2016-06-22 08:15
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But you know what we can't affect with laws? Immigration. Just pointless to worry about the laws at all, apparently. In the case of guns and explosives, though, it works brilliantly.
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Texan99
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2016-06-22 15:54
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Mateen was no 'lone wolf'. He had long standing and strong family ties to Islamic terror, and had spent considerable time in Saudi Arabia.
Christopher B: Mateen was no 'lone wolf'.
The evidence at this point is that Mateen bought his weapons legally, and there is no evidence that he received outside assistance.
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Zachriel
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2016-06-21 17:19
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Assistant Village Idiot: you still didn't answer the "what would the discussion be?" question.
Much the same. You and mudbug are examples of how the best defense is no offense whatsoever. Or something. Or is one or both of you really Zbot?
Donald Trump has been marinated in New York we're-so-special sauce since birth.
New York, the worst city in America Howard Zin was identified as a member of the communist party by the FBI.
FBI witch hunts are nothing to be proud of.
FBI witch hunts are nothing to be proud of.
Solomonia: Original Zinn [Hillel]. QUOTE: Having passed that embarrassing moment, Howard moved on to the subject of how the Left in America has always stood for pacifism and resistance to imperialist America's foreign adventures. He cited one of his mentors, Eugene V. Debs and his sojourn in federal prison for refusing to register for the draft during World War I. At that point, I raised my hand and asked him the following question: "Professor Zinn, in May of 1941 your friend, Pete Seeger, produced an album called Songs for John Doe which was a collection of blue collar songs that included one called The Ballad of October 16th. [At the time, Pete Seeger had formed his first commercial band called the Almanac Singers.] That song demonstrated yours and Pete's pacifist philosophy by excoriating Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt for urging United States entry into World War II to fight Hitler. Shortly after the album's release, you and Pete were desperately trying to retrieve all the copies to take them out of circulation. Exactly what happened between May and June of 1941 to turn you from devoted anti-war activists into sabre-rattling patriots, resulting in your enlisting in the Army Air Force as a bombardier?" An angry, bemused pall fell over the room. Someone next to me growled, "Who are you?" A lengthy silence from Professor Zinn finally ended in a muted response: "Well, we've all made mistakes in our lives." He was referring, of course, to his oft-stated repudiation of his role in World War II as a "death dealer" from on high. I decided to fill in the rest for the stunned audience. "What you mean is that on June 22, 1941, your country was invaded. And by that, I mean the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. On that date over a million German soldiers poured across the border in what was to prove the largest military aggression in history. Suddenly, Roosevelt became your hero because he was now Stalin's ally. It seems that pacifism has its limits, even for you. And that's how you went from orthodox pacifist to imperialist war monger." Silence from the Professor. Shouts and threats from the audience. I began to move to the exit. I escaped. My reply is that changing one's political opinions on a dime, when Uncle Joe required such a change, is nothing to be proud of. I grew up with too many Iron Curtain refugees to have any respect for Howard Zinn- or Pete Seeger, for that matter. I also recall from my youth how the same people who were fulminating against "FBI Witch Hunts" were also shouting to the rafters that Alger Hiss was innocent. Weinstein's book in 1978 & Venona files put paid to Alger Hiss's innocence. Witch hunt, switch hunt. Ciao. Advanced Google Search: "Howard Zinn" @ Solomonia. Zinn's a first class asshat.
"fulminating against 'FBI witch hunts'" is a strange characterization on a forum that ostensibly is against intrusive government authority. the first amendment guarantees Seeger, Zinn and everyone else's his right to express any political opinion he or she wants to without government intimidation, and that especially includes FBI witch hunts, blacklists, HUAC, ad nauseum. justifying present or past abuses by reference to other present or past abuses is a bullshit and lazy tu quoque argument so please don't make it here. unless you're saying Zinn betrayed secrets to the Soviets, your cherry picked reference to Hiss is false. the first amendment guarantees Seeger, Zinn and everyone else's his right to express any political opinion he or she wants to without government intimidation, and that especially includes FBI witch hunts, blacklists, HUAC, ad nauseum.
Had Pete Seeger merely been expressing himself, I would agree with you. However, Pete's "self-expression" often involved being a defacto mouthpiece of the Soviet Union. Even Pete Seeger [footnote 33] admitted his being a mouthpiece- though it took him over a half century to admit it. QUOTE: "Innocently I became a member of the Communist Party, and when they said fight for peace, I did, and when they said fight Hitler, I did. I got out in '49, though...I should have left much earlier. It was stupid of me not to. My father had got out in '38, when he read the testimony of the trials in Moscow, and he could tell they were forced confessions...... I thought Stalin was the brave secretary Stalin, and had no idea how cruel a leader he was." By his own admission, Pete Seeger acted as a Communist mouthpiece, adjusting what he sang according to the party line of the day. As a Communist mouthpiece, he was a de facto mouthpiece of the Soviet Union. IOW he was a de facto mouthpiece of a government whose citizens had virtually no rights of self-expression. But good ol' Pete should have the right of self-expression when he acted as a mouthpiece of a government that denied its own citizens the right to self expression. Makes a lot of sense to me. Sorta like bending over backwards for CAIR.For more detail, refer to Stalin's songbird: QUOTE: Somehow, though, they didn't quite find room to detail Seeger's long habit of following the Stalinist line. Take the best example, his twists and turns during the FDR administration. Seeger tells Wilkinson that when he was at Harvard during the late 1930s he was trying to "stop Hitler" and he became disgusted with a professor who counselled appeasement. Maybe so. But after the Hitler-Stalin pact, he and his group the Almanac Singers put out an album titled Songs of John Doe that called Franklin D Roosevelt a warmongering lackey of JP Morgan. What is your opinion of what I previously wrote?Franklin D, listen to me, You ain't a-gonna send me 'cross the sea. You may say it's for defense That kinda talk ain't got no sense. Then within months Hitler invaded the Soviet Union. The album was pulled from the market and reportedly destroyed. The Almanac Singers quickly produced a new album, Dear Mr President, that took a different view of FDR and the war: Now, Mr President You're commander-in-chief of our armed forces The ships and the planes and the tanks and the horses I guess you know best just where I can fight ... So what I want is you to give me a gun So we can hurry up and get the job done! As the ex-communist scholar Ronald Radosh puts it, "Seeger was antiwar during the period of the Nazi-Soviet Pact; pro-war after the Soviet Union was the ally of the United States; and anti-war during the years of the Cold War and Vietnam". QUOTE: My reply is that changing one's political opinions on a dime, when Uncle Joe required such a change, is nothing to be proud of. Pete Seeger's career suffered from his being on the blacklist. His being on the blacklist was a reaction to his being a Communist mouthpiece. See the Seeger quote if you doubt he was a Communist mouthpiece- 50+ years later Pete himself finally admitted it. Do you consider it unfair that Pete Seeger's career suffered from reaction to his being a Communist mouthpiece?
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Gringo
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2016-06-22 00:15
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Seeger's also an asshat.
you don't seem to understand that the first amendment protects radical and reactionary speech, unless it poses a "clear and present danger." unless seeger or zinn were doing something more than expressing political opinions -- and that includes being a commie or nazi shills --their right to political speech is protected under the first amendment from government harassment. regardless of what you imagine, seeger wasn't prosecuted for shilling for stalin. in the 1950s he defied HUAC and his contempt of congress conviction was overturned. I guarantee you this: unless you get a grip on and understand the threat this harassment poses to traditional notions of free speech, when the hildabeest comes to shut down dissent, or the warmal coldists attack scientists with RICO claims, your unfocused and poor reasoning is going to be turned against you and you're going to find yourself with nothing coherent to say and a lot to lose.
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Donny "The Bear Jew" Donowitz
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2016-06-22 04:35
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unless you're saying Zinn betrayed secrets to the Soviets, your cherry picked reference to Hiss is false.
Look once again at what I wrote. QUOTE: I also recall from my youth how the same people who were fulminating against "FBI Witch Hunts" were also shouting to the rafters that Alger Hiss was innocent. Weinstein's book in 1978 & Venona files put paid to Alger Hiss's innocence. Witch hunt, switch hunt. Note the end of my passage:"Witch hunt, switch hunt." That was a mocking of the "witch hunt" meme. I previously mocked the "witch hunt" meme by pointing out that I recall "witch hunt" being followed by "Hiss was innocent." [Which is precisely what I heard time after time. Cherry picked, my ass.] And we know full well that Hiss was NOT innocent. As those who claimed that Hiss was innocent were damned fools, that also implies that they were damned fools for crying "witch hunt." So it is a "witch hunt" to point out the truth- that Seeger and Zinn were Commies. It is not repeated in polite company that Seeger and Zinn were commies. Similarly, the POTUS considers it not polite to utter "Islamic terrorist." Apparently it is a "witch hunt" to point out that an Islamic terrorist is an Islamic terrorist, and to point out that Commies were Commies. Why do you have problems answering these questions I put to you? QUOTE: Do you consider it unfair that Pete Seeger's career suffered from reaction to his being a Communist mouthpiece? What is your opinion of what I previously wrote?:My reply is that changing one's political opinions on a dime, when Uncle Joe required such a change, is nothing to be proud of.
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Gringo
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2016-06-23 00:03
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Bad Link:Root cause of Orlando massacre? “White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism’ Among Reasons
Link Corrected: Black Lives Matter Lists “White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism” Among Reasons for Orlando Attack..It also has a link to the BLM website. Stunning network of intricately carved WWI tunnels are rediscovered by an amateur explorer who has revealed more than 250 designs etched into the quarry walls by US troops
American Expeditionary Force sent to Northern France to fight Germany alongside British and French forces They sheltered in stone quarry, where they carved 250 ornate insignias and portraits into the walls and pillars Eight miles of tunnels, with an entrance deep in the forest, was recently re-discovered by battlefield explorer http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3649043/Stunning-network-intricately-carved-WWI-tunnels-rediscovered-amateur-explorer-revealed-250-designs-etched-quarry-walls-troops.html |