We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
The left (and their partners in the press) have really outdone themselves with their amazing and mind-numbing rationales and equivalences for the Orlando attack. We knew, or should have known, that guns would be the first "boogey man", but who could have guessed that "we" are to blame (according to Obama who said that “we need the strength and courage to change” our attitudes toward the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community.) or according to ACLU lawyers, it was the Christian Right who was to blame. Then Sally Kohn, of CNN, put a little finer point on that saying that Christians are just as guilty as Muslims since they shoot up abortion clinics and kill abortionists. When it was pointed out that abortionists who were killed by "Christians" in the last 20 years only amounted to 20% of those killed in Orlando, she retorted, "Evil and hate are not relative to math...". Are they relative to common sense? I guess if a single deranged person who nominally belongs to a group does evil, that is equivalent to a group whose members routinely kill people.
If we didn't see the how invested this left is in the innocence of Islam, we got another glimpse the last few days. This has gone well beyond ideology and is now deeply into psychosis territory.
I forgot to add that Mateen was a Democrat so should Democrats share the blame with "right wing Christians" who blow up abortion clinics? There's evidence that he might have been gay. Are they equally guilty?
Mudbug, mudbug, when liberals say "we" they don't mean themselves. They mean "too many of you to count."
I'm blocked from the good links at work, but I highly recommend CS Lewis's 1940 essay "The Dangers of National Repentance," on that we business. I've written on it myself if you want to search on my site.
I will look around, but what I probably had in mind was "responding to patriotic symbols rather than conservative principles," or the similar "confusing traditional with conservative;" then also, a reflexive antagonism to attacks on business, believing it is in favor of the free market. Not always.
When it was pointed out that abortionists who were killed by "Christians" in the last 20 years only amounted to 20% of those killed in Orlando,she retorted, "Evil and hate are not relative to math..."
If you are restricting the killings to the last 20 years, the number killed by anti-abortionists is considerably less. Wikipedia: Anti-Abortion Violence.
the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort.
However, when broken down by when anti-abortionists killed, we get five killed from 1993-1994, and six killed from 1998-2015. Which gives you 11% [6/53] in the last 20 years instead of 20%.
"Evil and hate are not relative to math...". Are they relative to common sense? I guess if a single deranged person who nominally belongs to a group does evil, that is equivalent to a group whose members routinely kill people.
I doubt she would agree when it is pointed out that the killer was a registered Democrat.