We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Well, they do believe it but only Moynihan was willing to say it out loud. The real goal was achieved: Generations of Dem voters hooked on dependency, uselessness, and hopelessness. Of course, that applies not only to African-Americans. There are far more white than black people in that category.
However, there were no dysfunctional black urban ghettos before Johnson's Great Society eliminated poverty and hopelessness.
"Of course, that applies not only to African-Americans. There are far more white than black people in that category."
And unfortunately, becoming more and more each day. At some point the whole structure collapses because the productive people can no longer carry all those on the dole or otherwise getting government benefits. Add in all the Boomers retiring and those who are out of the work force permanently because of the bad economy, and now the ever-growing costs of Obamacare and the collapsing healthcare system, and you have a looming disaster on your hands.
Yes indeed. In my corner of rural Nebraska, having illegitimate children has become a career choice for some girls coming out of high school. It's all about collecting the benefits and has been going on for some years now.
Moynihan may have seen the problem but he never once voted to derail the Democrats policy directions. Under LBJ he formulated a good deal of the "War on Poverty" which could just as well been called the war on symptoms. Poverty is a symptom and treating symptoms is something only a social scientist would attempt. An actual scientist would treat the disease. And here we are 50 years later still treating the symptoms.
I think there were dysfunctional black urban ghettos before Johnson. Harlem 1948, at least. And with riots coming thick and fast 1964, 65, 66, 68 I'm not sure that can be laid at the feet of Great Society programs, which had barely gotten under weigh.
Granting that what we have done has been a horrible and cruel failure, I don't see a model elsewhere in the world that has been successful for black people that we can emulate. We speculate what should have worked, but we don't actually know.
Assistant Village Idiot
Not dysfunctional, as I have read.
Poor, yes, but productive. Thos Sowell writes about growing up in Harlem.