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"B48Six Percent of Americans Have Accepted Payment for Sex"
Hmmmm........add in most wives and the percentage climbs considerably! A woman's hypergamy leads to AF/BB...always has and always will. That's the basis of the social contract known as "marriage." Sure. Couldn't possibly be anything else. Billions of men have been duped, but B48 has ther answer.
Truth hurts, eh, AVI? Especially if you're of the female persuasion and can't handle the simple reality of it all.
As far too many men have found out: What's the one food that causes women to reject sex and lovemaking? "Wedding cake!" Mizzou's missing students:
I am positive that if a single student did most of the things that these Mizzou activists have doen they would at least be escorted off campus and told not to return and at worst arrested and charged with a crime. If that same standard had been applied to these activists from day one there would never have been a problem like we see today. Legal protest and free speech is not the problem but interfering with the other students rights and actual assault is. It would be so simple to identify all of these miscreants and to file charges against them and serve/arrest them at the convenience of the police rather than confront them all in mass. This was handled badly and a lot of decent people have been negatively affected. That which is allowed will continue. David Warren's essay is intriguing mainly because it's entirely subjective. He says that development did improve things, but "not for the better."
Then his description of Thailand implies that what happened there is "capitalism" when in fact it was something very different which is often confused with capitalism. Here are some questions he should ask: 1. Was he pushing true capitalism and free markets or some synthetic version which would mimic its effects while maintaining the status quo? 2. Was it so wrong to fire someone who wasn't adding value? That in itself isn't the crime he makes it out to be. That person may add value elsewhere, why hang on to him if he isn't adding there? I'm not saying let's run out and remove everybody who isn't adding value to life, but a company has to pay attention to these things. It's not brutal, it's the reason we all (should) try to stay as current as we possibly can. I left a job after a single day when I realized I couldn't give the company what it wanted. I refused pay for that day I spent there. I also told them they were overstaffed and could do more with less. Perhaps that fellow had felt the same way. 3. Who is he to judge if what happened there isn't better? Maybe he should ask some of the people whose lives have improved because of the progress. Pastoral tranquility is a wonderful thing to me, living my life in an office. But to many people it's a life of drudgery. While the image of a tranquil, rice-paddy filled Thailand fills my mind with a deep wish for the past to be restored, I also realize that my desire to return to 1950's America or maybe even 1890's America is a bit...odd. I live a much better life now than I would have then. I am willing to believe the same feeling exists for many Thai people. I could be wrong, but if I am, it would mainly be a cultural issue rather than one of general living standards. The past is rarely what we thought it was. We tend to focus on what was good about it and ignore the bad. In contrast, as we look at our modern state of affairs, we tend to overwhelmingly focus on what is bad and seemingly 'getting worse' rather than what is good. Basically, his article is "Times change and I don't like how they are changing and I did some things that I didn't like doing." Get in line. We've all done things we didn't like doing, and times ain't gonna stop changing. Dylan assured us of that. QUOTE: Because government is a force multiplier for evil, a vote for the small government candidate is a vote for good Government is also a force multiplier for good. If government was only for evil, then no government would be best, which most everyone realizes is not correct. Rather, a balance must be struck. In mature democracies, power is widely distributed; executive, legislative, judicial, federal, state, local, corporate, bureaucratic, clubs, political parties, lobbies, property, social safety net, families, churches, individuals, etc. You haven't outlined that manifest good, Team of Zees, or tied it to either durability or virtue; in other words, to the functions and purposes of such good. As it stands your formulation is therefore philosophically unsupported and unsupportable.
The collective is a manifestation of the health (or dysfunction) of the individual, and only as he goes so goes it - behavior is all but entirely fractal. In this regard even a mental experiment into the philosophy of anarchy - using its proper definition, not today's pop-culture redefinition - is eminently useful and telling. Why? Because it calls the individual to stand to reason, performance, and morality. Likewise, humankind's many observations of the nature of power and its problems. In order for your non-formulation to hold water you have to first account for the individual, and in so doing, account for the individual's specific accountability (or lack thereof). That is a philosophical discussion from which you could eventually frame "good". Observing that governments exist is not that thing. Oreos and hubcaps exist too, Zees, and they exist as "most people" believe them to exist. That's just assertive squid ink. Ten: You haven't outlined that manifest good
No. We specifically appealed to the reader's knowledge that anarchy is not tenable. Anarchy is inherently unstable, and will eventually result in some sort of government, often tyrannical. We suspect you can't define anarchy and we see you refuse to list the myriad benefits of force. As would we.
We note that we noted that we left individual accountability off your table, as your tacit condition, as noted. Always the purveyor of Good Force, rarely the victim, and never the perpetrator. We wonder why that is. Ten: We suspect you can't define anarchy
It's usually defined as the absence of government, which is not the same as the absence of any sort of order, ... Ten: and we see you refuse to list the myriad benefits of force. or the absence of force.
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2016-03-14 17:38
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[Anarchy is] usually defined as the absence of government, which is not the same as the absence of any sort of order
I'm curious how order, using your scant allowance, then conflates with your prior "tyranny", Zees? I don't mean in your usual rote, context-free assertions on a condition somewhere, but as the philosophy identified by everyone from the ancients to Kant wherein force isn't needed for order, or as I've said to your silence, the philosophy of the accountable individual? Seems to me you start from a condition of individual nature when building structures expressly admitted to limit it. Right? [you refuse to list the myriad benefits of] the absence of force. Ok, go; I'll wait. Or can't you see virtue without force?
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Ten
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2016-03-14 17:51
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Ten: I'm curious how order, using your scant allowance, then conflates with your prior "tyranny"
Historically, power centers compete violently, until zones of control are established. The lesson of that history is that either the people control their government, or the government will control the people.
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Zachriel
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2016-03-14 17:58
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Yup, stuff exists. We already know water is wet. Which says nothing to the point.
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Ten
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2016-03-14 18:07
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government can be a force multiplier for good, no explanation or examples should be needed (although on this forum, who can say). But, this is not reliably the case.
in mature democracies, power has accreted to business trusts and trade unions, highly focused special interests and even government bureaucracy, along with their self interested supporters. just enough of an appearance of democracy is preserved, and, along with just enough lip service paid to notions of justice and due process, the system works well enough. but if you're voting for something, that thing isn't any thing that matters. sure as shi'ite, it doesn't matter for you if the hildabeest or the trumpster is preznit because the structural integrity of of our present system makes it immune to substantive change and business will go on as usual. It's not reliably the case, nor can Zees enumerate this illusive good without just asserting it to be the net result of some profession of doing some exclusive, narrow, postmodern "good" for some particular and typically exclusive cohort, the pathological cultural lie that should be known to one and all. My point was to tie good to specific individuals from whose baseline ethic, presumably, one can derive collective benefit.
That's enough philosophical impediment for Zees to stumble headlong over. Of course you shouldn't have to explain the good in, say, a public benefits administration financially upside down six or eight times the national debt. It's just axiomatic good until the whole thing collapses and the finger-pointing starts, always in the wrong directions. In other words, what you said, and in spades. Government can't provide a 'good' without taking it from someone else first. This is not a multiplier of good - it's just a transferral of good.
"I want my benefits" will translate to taxing the wealthy and giving it to others. The deadweight loss of this will be ignored. Victory for 'good' will be declared. "I want my right to buy a cake" will translate to a law telling the baker his/her beliefs are worthless and meaningless, and the cake must be baked. The loss of rights by the baker will be discarded but the 'good' gained via access to cake will be declared the moral victory. There is no single example of a multiplier of good from extended government. In a limited government, the role of protecting rights will yield the opportunity to be an enhancement to the possibility of a multiplication of 'good' - but it will not be the purveyor of the multiplier itself. I knew I'd have to give an obvious example.
please, congress, fund the Army this year, even if you have to do this with my taxes. That's cute, kinda like how nobody could have possibly noticed a sound justice system either.
I'm just waiting for an invitation from the left to pose my question about the legitimacy of fantastically-named systems of force in which there never was a shred of integrity, much less a positive outcome. Not looking for the honest answer that'll never come, just the right to ask the question. But no: Heresy.
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Ten
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2016-03-14 16:05
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Two issues with this.
First - limited government assumes some things are provided. Such as defense. So I didn't say it shouldn't engage in transferrals. It should do so in as limited a fashion as possible. Second - defense is not a multiplier of 'good'. It's simply an insurance policy. You've transferred your wealth, you haven't created a multiplier. Defense is a classic example of Bastiat's broken window fallacy. You'd be wealthier without it - but you consider it a necessity, even though it makes you less wealthy. Remember, you may want a strong army (I know I do), but there are others who would rather not have to spend on military at all. So, in taxing them to support the military you want, you force them to pay for what you want, not what they want. You have taken from them and given them nothing of value (to them) in return. Transferral, and not a multiplier.
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Bulldog
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2016-03-15 10:12
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Another point worth making is that the 'multiplier' which is discussed in Economics is, really, network effects. It's interesting that much of the groundwork for this was done by a fellow who died only the other day, Lloyd Shapley. In a extremely small way, his work can be described as "the whole is worth more than the sum of its parts." A single phone isn't worth much, but a series of networked phones is worth an astounding amount. The whole of the network is where the value was created, rather than the individual part.
Government can't do that. Government doesn't create networks, it actually destroys them or devalues them. Government can be part of a network, but only insofar as it positions itself, through force or coercion, as part of it by taking from other parts of the network.
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Bulldog
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2016-03-15 10:21
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Bulldog: Government can't do that. Government doesn't create networks
That is obviously incorrect. More important, government is a major node in the networks that comprise modern societies.
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Zachriel
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2016-03-15 17:06
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A major node in a network isn't the creation of network effects. Sorry, you lose. Nice try - come back when you have real value.
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Bulldog
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2016-03-16 09:49
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Bulldog: A major node in a network isn't the creation of network effects.
Establishing a node that then connects with the rest of the network creates network effects. A simple example is the Apollo mission, which resulted in a new and complex interactive network between government, corporations and scientific institutions, as well as very real spaceships.
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Zachriel
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2016-03-16 14:51
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Bulldog: Government can't provide a 'good' without taking it from someone else first. This is not a multiplier of good - it's just a transferral of good.
Government is not just a mere transferral, but is an independent entity with its own characteristics. No it isn't. You perceive it as such.
But I won't argue with you. You're just a troll without much value most of the time. You really just don't understand government. It can only transfer. It cannot create.
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Bulldog
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2016-03-15 10:04
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Bulldog: {Government} can only transfer. It cannot create.
A simple counterexample is the Apollo mission.
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Zachriel
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2016-03-15 17:07
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All the government did that was transfer tax revenue (or bond revenue which is paid with future taxes) and gave it to the private sector for something which was deemed a 'good'.
Given the growing status of the private space industry today, you cannot logically argue that this was best handled by the government. You have illogically supposed that taking money that would have otherwise made a citizen better off, and transferring it to a program to put monkeys and men in space was an improvement in that citizen's situation. Great entertainment, and some really cool stuff (like teflon) was created. But those creations would most likely have been discovered anyway without the government transferral of funds. Sorry, you're clutching a straws with that one. They did not create the space industry. A private person (Robert Goddard) did.
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Bulldog
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2016-03-16 09:48
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Bulldog: All the government did that was transfer tax revenue (or bond revenue which is paid with future taxes) and gave it to the private sector for something which was deemed a 'good'.
The result of that was the successful Apollo mission to the moon. Most economists recognize substantial benefits, from communications to computers. But regardless, it was the creation of something that hadn't existed before.
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Zachriel
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2016-03-16 14:53
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Donny "The Bear Jew" Donowitz: government can be a force multiplier for good, no explanation or examples should be needed (although on this forum, who can say). But, this is not reliably the case.
Quite so. Furthermore, too much government is as dangerous as too little government. QUOTE: Is it racist to say that Jews are often smart people? Is it racist to say that non-Jews are often smart people? (The article points to the development of banking to explain the difference in economic development.) The Duke Lacrosse case - what a miscarriage that whole thing was, and Duke has yet to truly pay for it. Yes, they "paid" out quite a bit of money. But the reputation of its staff and faculty still remains one of a top-notch academic institution. Of course, many universities have engaged similar incidents which have degraded the value of their positions, and few have suffered (UVA, for example, or even recently Missouri).
But one thing caught my eye. The discussion about the harm the boys will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. Yes, it was horrible and psychologically scarring, I suppose (never having gone through it, I can only imagine). I'm sure their reputations suffered somewhat. But I say only somewhat for a single reason. I worked for a year with one of those young men. He was a very nice person. Undoubtedly humbled and chastised by his ordeal. I don't know what he was like prior to the case. He may have been the same quiet, unassuming, nice kid that I worked with. Something tells me possibly not, mainly because he always seemed to struggle to say the right thing. But I could have read too much into that. He wound up leaving for a very nice job. When he told me what the job was I realized he wasn't going to have a rough life. He had gone through a very difficult situation. He deserved whatever compensation he may have received, as did his compatriots. He deserved every benefit of the doubt when he entered the workforce. I can say from my time with him that I thought him a conscientious worker. I'm not sure what the status of the others may be, I didn't work with them. But I knew (because my town is a big lacrosse town) one other player on the team that year. He wasn't one of the boys in the case. He, too, is a nice kid. He has to deal with that ordeal, too, because even though he wasn't part of the case, he was on the team. You can't mention Duke lacrosse without someone saying something about it....usually not understanding the details of what happened. Many people still think they did something wrong. I know the stigma follows them, I've seen it. One senior manager I work with was unaware the young fellow was part of the case, and when she found out, she felt he should be let go. She didn't know the details. That's something all the players will have to deal with as they go through life. The only thing they did 'wrong' was put themselves at risk by hiring the strippers in the first place. That isn't a crime, though. But learning to be careful is part of the maturation process. It was an unnecessary and unneeded risk, particularly when you're a lacrosse player. Lacrosse players have a reputation for reckless behavior. But he is doing well enough, as is the other young fellow I know. Certainly both are better off than I was when I was their age. You're ahead of me here since you have some experience with one of the lacrosse players, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that those students were pretty much the same before their troubles as after - minus the scars. I know when I was in college, if our rugby team had had enough money, we might have done something similar. There were a couple of jerks on our team, but looking back, for the most part, we were a pretty good bunch of guys.
I certainly don't want to minimize the scars or their likely effects on those boys. I would think they would more likely be chastened if they had any guilt and thus more likely to be angry as a result of their outrageous treatment. The fact that he wasn't might speak highly of his upbringing. Just a thought from a person who, other than the local news reports (I live nearby), is far removed from the situation. The Trump and Sanders voters, although oddly a lot of the latter are upper middle class college kids, have had the belief that there are forces acting upon them beyond their control beaten into them quite honestly.
An apropos observation from Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier: QUOTE: This business of petty inconvenience and indignity, of being kept waiting about, of having to do everything at other people’s convenience, is inherent in working-class life. A thousand influences constantly press a working man down into a passive role. He does not act, he is acted upon. He feels himself the slave of mysterious authority and has a firm conviction that ‘they’ will never allow him to do this, that, and the other. Once when I was hop-picking I asked the sweated pickers (they earn something under sixpence an hour) why they did not form a union. I was told immediately that ‘they’ would never allow it. Who were ‘they’? I asked. Nobody seemed to know, but evidently ‘they’ were omnipotent. A person of bourgeois origin goes through life with some expectation of getting what he wants, within reasonable limits. Hence the fact that in times of stress ‘educated’ people tend to come to the front; they are no more gifted than the others and their ‘education’ is generally quite useless in itself, but they are accustomed to a certain amount of deference and consequently have the cheek necessary to a commander. That they will come to the front seems to be taken for granted, always and everywhere. (chapter 3) Are we in times of stress? Re: Duke Lacross case and Mizzou
This is an interesting juxtaposition. On school hangs it's students out to dry before getting any facts and even (except for cash settlements) after the students' innocence confirmed. The only damage seems to be minor monetary payouts. The other school coddles its students during and after a ridiculous protest, acquiescing to demands that were just as ridiculous. Freshman enrollment is down resulting in a budgetary shortfall. I'm not sure what to make of this (are the prospective students of a public college more interested in getting an education and those of a private, elite college more interested in getting connections?), but neither of these incidents give these two schools reason to be proud. The truth is that if these incidents had happened at almost any other school, those schools would likely have reacted the same way Duke and Mizzou did. I'm glad I got my college education after the crap in the '60s and before the crap in the '00s. Quit Your Job - A midlife career shift can be good for cognition, well-being, and even longevity.
Which reminds me of my uncle's experience. He found himself bankrupt and divorced in his mid-60's. He picked himself off his feet, used his professional contacts to re-establish himself in the workplace, and worked as a consultant until he was 87 and no longer able to travel. I am convinced that continuing working during his retirement years increased his longevity. Workouts in the gym were also useful. I had a career shift in midlife. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks. Or better said, an old dog can teach himself new tricks. Obama Wants To Use Indigenous Science To Govern The Arctic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0JQJNsMKig Jews: I read that first as Religions that expelled Jews. It is true that there are smart Jews and smart non-Jews, Zach, but it does seem Jews have a higher percentage of smarter. Likely from evolution due to persecution, the smarter ones survived to reproduce, and they had to be smarter to survive. It can't be racist to say Jews are smarter; a religion is not a race. Same reason being anti-Islamic is not racist (RAAAAACIST).
My, the Stupid is Strong in many of these links. Please stop promoting the lie that Trump is for universal healthcare. He posted a very detailed plan online a couple of weeks ago. Read it.
If you cannot trust what a candidate lays out as their plan, then I guess we are toast. I cannot trust Rubio, Cruz or Kasich either when they say anything. There is no universal healthcare in Trump's plan. Stop it already. Lots of candidates lay out a plan and then don't follow it. I sincerely believe Trump is no different. Given that Trump is only a recent (as early as August 2015, Trump was still commenting he was a "liberal" on healthcare) convert to a freer market approach, I have a feeling he'd stick with the status quo.
The status quo, in DC, is clearly accepting universal healthcare as inevitable. Trump is nothing if not malleable. He is, most definitely, for sale to the highest bidder on any given item. Insurers are earning more under Obamacare - why would they want to go back to more competition? My guess is he'd be bought and sold on this issue when the time comes. He won't overturn Obamacare. The idea that he's his own man is outrageous. People are voting for him because they are anti-establishment and think he can't be purchased because he has money. Meanwhile, he admits to purchasing the establishment and has always been able to be purchased, somehow (that's how you get to slap his name on your condominium complex, after all). "Brennan has reportedly also made clear to the officers under his charge that he eschews the term espionage, and does not view the CIA as an espionage service."
"es·pi·o·nage. NOUN 1.the practice of spying or of using spies, typically by governments to obtain political and military information." If the CIA is not supposed to conduct espionage, what exactly is the point of it? There's almost US$15 billion a year in American taxpayers' money that can be saved right now! RE Episcopal church celebrates 40 years of women in the priesthood
... as the church fragments into the competing and conservative Anglican Church in North America so you Christians let social trends dictate dogma? Why are you lumping all Christians in with the Episcopalians?
sorry about the microaggression. from my perspective, you all look the same.
"[So] you Christians let social trends dictate dogma?"
I take it you're not a Reform Jew then? Some of the older, less PC members of my family figure that the troubles of the Anglican Church are just God's payback for the Acts of Supremacy.
RE Learning to Fight Like an Israeli - Feature: 17 hours of training with the Israeli Tactical School
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