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Friday, February 12. 2016
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Why doesn't ever talk about freedom of any kind?
Why I won't be voting for him.
There is a good deal of unfair criticism of Trump, which serves to fuel his supporters, who come to believe that all criticism of him is unfair.
But in politics, everyone is a victim of some unfair criticism. Even at the extremes, I'm figuring there are complaints about Putin or Chavez that are untrue or unfair, but so what?
Here's a new question (I think): He clearly likes running for president. Does he actually want to be president?
I think the second part to that question is will he uphold the conservative values his party typically represents. He may get the Republican nomination, and possibly the presidency. But that doesn't convince me that he will support the tenants of the republican party and of conservative America.
... will he uphold the conservative values his party typically represents feigns.
Trump does talk about the things that are on voter's minds and has set the agenda for this election. Obama claimed to be an instructor on constitutional law at Harvard yet his record shows that he does all he can to get around many key points of the constitution. Paul Ryan did a lot of talking about fiscal responsibility yet he buckled to Obama as House Speaker before the ink was even dry on his announcement memo. Most Americans have heard enough about candidates that wrap themselves in the flag and patriotism and conservative principles. We need someone to get things done and from what I and many can see, that someone is Trump. Trump is the Alpha male in this election. The rest are Beta blockers.
He does talk about big government. His kids have expressed this as well. Eric Trump recently was interviewed and said that Trump would run the government like a business, and a business is 'lean and mean.' That tells me everything I need to know.
Trump has talked about wasteful spending plenty of times...he's against Obamacare because of that. Criticized the billions spent on ACA websites the first day he announced he was running. Has talked about getting Mexico to pay for the wall...which implies we spend too much money on crap. Has talked about 'pig book' projects and how ridiculous they are (in his book and in interviews). Not sure what else he needs to say. Does he need to say the words "wasteful spending" to convince people?
He has policy details everywhere, if you want to find them. The reason he did not do it on the campaign trail? Most of us find that boring. If you give me a simple idea like: we will stop illegal immigration, I can get behind that. Do I need to hear the boring details in a canned speech that he tells everywhere he goes? NO. Most of us don't want to hear that stuff. We just need to trust that he will do what he says, and since he has a history of making good deals and growing a successful business, that is the proof we look at.
Also, he has laid out a specific tax plan. You can look that up as well. It's not like he doesn't have policies behind the generics, he just is smart enough to realize that bores the heck out of people at his rallies. He knows what works. He is not your typical politician and that makes me glad.
As for his 'liberal stances' of the past, how far back do we have to go? He has stated his position on abortion changed rather recently due to a friend of his...are we now to go back 10 years and accuse him of not being truthful because of what he believed then? Aren't people allowed to change their minds about things in a lifetime? Are we all solidly what we are at 18? 21? When does it stop?
Read his books. He is a conservative about many things. Social policies are not what people are voting over....we are voting about economy, immigration, security. On those issues he has not changed his position.
Why don't you ask these workers how they feel about Trump, the only candidate to address our loss of jobs to other countries while all our politician candidates support an increasing number of HB-1 visas at the request of their corporate funders?
Freedom = a job and a future where you and your family can thrive without the government in your face regulating every part of your life.
I'm not a Trump supporter.
Clearly, his supporters are not troubled by his mushy past. A recent poll claimed two-thirds of Republican voters support his proposal to stop Muslim immigration into this country. Most Republicans support a wall at the Mexican border. About two-thirds of Americans (not just Republicans) think the country is going in the wrong direction. Trump is not politically-correct. He is very well known (for good or ill), having been in the public eye for decades. He lives large. He's married to a supermodel. There is the sense that the country is approaching a Gone with the Wind moment.
If he is the nominee, winning the general election is highly problematic, as he has the highest negatives of any of the candidates. Also, he has lots of baggage. No doubt he will be carpet bombed by the Democrats if he is the nominee.
So, who will you vote for if it comes down to Trump or Sanders? I thought so.
I actually think the final choices are likely to be Hillary or Trump. Hillary already has the delegates sewn up nationwide. Bernie is just a sideshow and he eventually be sidelined as he was never intended by the Party to be the main event.
The same might be true on the Republican side where they try to sideline Trump for Rubio or Bush at the convention but Trump's following is too large and determined to ignore. By that point Trump could run as a third party candidate and likely beat any Republican, although the split vote will put Hillary in office.
In a way both parties look like the the man in the cartoon who is pushing his car down the road to get it started. Then, once it starts rolling the man chases it in a desperate attempt to hold on and get on board.
Like Hillary Clinton won't be carpet bombed? Like Hillary Clinton is electable? Like Hillary Clinton doesn't have any baggage? What are you smoking?
On the day the Clinton Foundation is subpeoned by the State Department, not one question during last nights debate about, or anything related to the current investigation of her by the FBI.
Not a question. Not one.
As far as I know, Trump is not under investigation by any federal agency of the U.S. government, and if he was, that would have been the first question last night from either of those two in-the-tank-for-Hillary, PBS talking heads.
Robert MacNeil and Jim Lehrer would have ripped her a new asshole, but that was back in the day when this country actually had journalists who weren't in the bag for the people they were supposed to squeeze. Even at Public Broadcasting.
Stephanopoulos questioning Clinton on a Sunday show? Are you f@cking kidding me?
Hillary won't make it to the finish. She'll be lucky to avoid the federal prison in Danbury.
Again, I say to the Trump supporters - your argument is "but I'm sick of the others so he must be good." You are mad at Paul Ryan so you don't want to hear John Kasich? What kind of reasoning is that? Boring details? Uh, I'd like to hear a few, actually. There actually aren't policy details out there if one looks for them. Those also turn out to be puffery. Make an argument that might persuade others, not just insist that everyone else sucks, and we're too stupid to understand.
"Ready! Fire! Aim!"
Kasich sounds like a mournful, contemplative, budget policy wonk, yakking on about the speed of modern life in America today, and wondering how were all gonna’ get reconnected to each other again? Really? This is the new way forward for the GOP?
Let’s see how we withstands the millions of dollars thrown at him in negatives ads by the Contemplatives in the Bush Camp, reminding South Carolina that Kasich expanded Medicaid under ObamaCare, and his willingness to close military bases. That should fly well in the largest military retiree state in the country.
He should make his reservations home for Columbus now and save the last minute hustle for a flight.
Detail are there, but you don't want to look at them. On his tax plan (from his website):
Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:
1) Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.
2) Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.
3) Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.
4) Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.
He then goes into great detail about how he will achieve this. Also just want to ask, do his point sound liberal or conservative?
There is more about veterans, trade, 2nd amendment and immigration. Maybe you should check it out.
But those aren't details. In fact, they are vague populist slogans.
I don't hear anything from Kasich that I agree with, but if he were a democrat he would offer a reasonable alternative to Trump. It's a shame that the democrat party can only offer socialism. Kasich as a D running against Trump would be the first D I would ever have considered voting for. It makes me sad and frustrated that I get cornered into voting for a progressive republican only because I find the democrat to be frightening madness.
AVI, I second your remarks.
Just had one tell me the other day that "things cannot get f'ing worse". Well on the positive side, hope and change are still alive.
There are a lot of hit pieces on Trump here. Why not something about Ted Cruz? He seemed to go from TrusTed to BusTed with his antics in Iowa and hiring a soft-porn star to do a video in South Carolina was a stroke of genius. Then we have pretty boy Rubio who most European visitors think is light in the loafers. And let's not forget Mr. Excitement - Jeb Bush, who earned $29 million between 2007 (the year of his last full-time job) and his Presidential run, half of it from Wall Street.
TrusTed to BusTed
Yeah, that's really going to convince people you've thought about this deeply.
MissT - I have been to the website.
Scullman - you forgot "ponies for everyone, general rejoicing." Your fantasies about what you are just sure Trump will do are not convincing me that he has any ability to accomplish these things.
Jim- "the illegals invasion from other countries" starts to overwhelm the country? Can you do arithmetic? Things that are unjust and an unnecessary drag on our economy are bad things, but they are not going to collapse the Republic.
Trumpsters, we are hearing you clearly. For some reason you think we can't possibly understand because we don't agree. I submit that it is you who aren't hearing. And I doubt that will change.
I trust my elders who have been around much longer than I have. They are educated, smart people with a lot of life experience. They have liked Trump since the beginning. So that makes me take notice.
No, I guess I cannot convince you. I do think it's a matter of trust. Which person do I trust will do what he says?
Trump is number one on the list.
Carson is number two.
Cruz is third.
I would like a very successful businessman and expert negotiator to take a crack at Washington. We need a full shake-up of the political machine. Trump has proven that is what he can and will do.
"TrusTed to BusTed
Yeah, that's really going to convince people you've thought about this deeply"
Yes. My point is these stupid comments are no more stupid than the postings about Trump on this site.
I do like Cruz, even though at some times and from some angles he resembles a fat Lee Harvey Oswald, but he just isn't going to get the nomination if the current trends continue. If things change and he is the likely nominee, I would be happy to support him.
Hey AVI, here's something you can take seriously:
Self Identified Republican Voter Polling
Morning Consult Survey Feb. 11, 2016
Trump at 44%.
Self Identified Republicans National Polling
"Morning Consult Survey" -Feb.11
February 10-11, 2016 February 3-7, 2016 February 2-3, 2016
Donald Trump 44% 38% 38%
Ted Cruz 17% 17% 14%
Ben Carson 10% 9% 9%
Marco Rubio 10% 15% 12%
Jeb Bush 8% 6% 5%
John Kasich 4% 2% 2%
Bush spent $36million for 11% of the vote in N.H.
Any guesses on how much they'll waste in SC?
Kasich? Oh, c'mon. Really? Kasich?
Likelihoods in the next couple of years:
1. The economy completely collapses after being propped up by phony economics for the past 7 years.
2. The illegals invasion from other countries continues to get worse to the point where it starts to overwhelm the country.
3. Terrorists increase their infiltration of the country, largely through #2.
Who do you want running the country at that point?
One of the GOP policy wonk midgets?
Just open questions for consideration.
Temporary ban of all immigration initiated by President Trump.
Illegal Aliens rounded up from ICE holding facilities, jails, and deported.
"Sanctuary Cities" no longer receive federal money. Cities freak. Illegals deported. "Catch and Release" in southern Texas and Arizona ends.
Applications for Border Patrol Officer's soars.
Former Attorneys General Holder indicted for "Fast and Furious"
New fence construction along Southern border begins.Tariffs attached to all Mexican imports initiated.
Commander-in-Chief Trump orders all military units in the Persian Gulf to rescind previous ROE and directs all naval personal to defend their vessels accordingly.
Iranian Quds Force speedboats suffer severe engine breakdowns, mandatory dry dock imposed by Admirals.
VA Hospital Administrators seek lawyers to stay mass firings.
Ah, the Constitution. This is the document the Supreme Court just discovered had a right to gay marriage. I mean, it was around for 200 years and no one noticed it before! And the deciding vote was a justice put there by a republican.
I hate to tell you the republic is dead. The question is if you get your strong man in to implement policies you like, or the other side gets their strong man to get their policies.
For eight years strong man Obama opened the borders, stood down the border control, allowed sanctuary cities to flourish (with the help of Paul Ryan), and signed executive orders that made a mockery of the republic. And the republican congress did what?
So the question is what candidate will not be afraid to unilaterally push your agenda, because the ogre side for sure will do it as they have been doing.
So your quaint notions of talking the constitution are fantasy, and separated from reality. And why you keep losing.
How about this idea. Throw out the Constitution (our potus and congress already have), throw out the idea this is still a republic (most voters don't know the meaning of the word), just look at this country as a business run by a highly incompetent boss/bully that needs a reversal. Thus, you get Trump.
Please tell me how Trump is incompetent. He turned $1 mm into $8+ billion over his career. None of the other candidates accomplished anything like this and in many cases I'm not sure that they've accomplished anything of note. Also tell me how he is a bully. From what I understand he is admired by associates, employees, business partners, and even his ex wife.
Running America as a business is not a bad idea. At least then we might have things like six sigma efficiency, an objective of putting the customer first, the ability to fire the truly incompetent, the ability to outsource things like postal delivery, and a focus on cost control.