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Sunday, April 19. 2015
Barnhardt says this:
I do not think food is the main post-Christian preoccupation, but it does seem common in the higher socio-economic classes. These are often the educated who missed Physiology 101 and Biochem 101. Think Whole Foods and "organic" farming. I think we have been clear on this site that most dietary preaching here is about weight loss, not general health. Nobody can define a "healthy" human diet, as we are omnivores which means we can thrive on anything digestible. In America, we are blessed with cheap and abundant food of all sorts and spend a lower percentage of our funds on tasty food than anywhere else in the world. Thus many people eat more than they need, for fun.
As I have said, I have seen 6'3" football players who grew up on nothing but peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, macaroni and cheese, and the occasional hot dog.
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I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground–everything that has the breath of life in it–I give every green plant for food. And it was so. Genesis 1:29-30.
As it was so shall it be again.
There's an irony to Bliss's regular assertions about food and diet. It's that of conflating a wishful assumption about diet into a commonly acceptable (counter-) cultural standing with political overtones.
We see this from time to time in rightwing commentary: By poking a weak thumb in the left's eye about food - see Bliss's reference to Whole Foods and by extension, the hidebound urbanista Progressive* - we've diluted what should be a timely restoration of original national values and principles with a toothless race against the merest vestiges of the leftist State.
If it's really of value to lampoon the left's common higher-lifestyle culture, contrast it to traditional belief and not an equally shoddy cultural belief of another kind and type.
However original, conservative values about lifestyle and food have been warped and cannot today perform even this minor service. The meat industry of 2015 and the drive-thru burger-and-wings culture of today is not the responsible, thoughtful conservationism of our fathers and grandfathers. It is exactly the opposite of it and it is morally wrong. It is also terrible wasteful, morally cruel, and unhealthful.
Meanwhile the scientific support for a healthy, clean, no-meat diet grows. It is all over the parts of the medical sciences meat proponents would have claimed as official references ten or more years ago. The claim that we don't know these facts is simply wrong.
A more repugnant and irresponsible tacit claim is that Christianity somehow associates favorably with the meat diet and hence the killing industry. Here again we see this assumed pose of unthought cultural defensiveness. In fact, any reasonable and even casual reading of the Bible reveals that the plant-based diet existed both before and after the Fall. Before the Fall, it being unnecessary, killing was non-existent. After the Fall Nazarene Christians at the least avoided killing and meat. The Bible is quite clear.
It is repugnant that in their simple cultural defensiveness, Christians champion killing and unhealthy diets out of resistance to and reaction against another cultural standard that, while it has virtually no such context today, actually pre-dated modern Christianity and was 180% out of phase to the corrupted cultural warrioring of lifestyle "Christians" in the political right today. Yes, that is ironic.
This doesn't mean that the left, mostly, hasn't deified its cultural affections. It certainly has. Progressivism is without question a religion.
But Bliss has exemplified the problem of reactionaryism by conflating Barnhardt with the right's typically misplaced, foolish, trendy, and toothlessly facile anti-vegan campaign. Somehow we have to show that in order to be real Americans we have to hail from Texas and raise cattle, if not literally, then in some odd vicarious national ethos.
That culturalism admits spiritual defeat at the same time as it obscures necessary national reenlightenment.
*the left has earned plenty of thumbs in innumerable eyes. But having lost every major battle in 100 years, if this nonsense is the right's remaining card to play, then the word defeat above is apt.
The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, and their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the hole of the cobra, and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. Isaiah 11:6-9
We should get rid of all meat animals? Fish too?
What? No more chickens, eggs, cows, pigs, deer, ostriches?
Organic farming days are numbered as the bureauweenies are regulating all aspects of manure application because "It's a pollutant."
Weight loss and diet:
There is "Whole Foods" and there is whole foods. "Whole Foods" is an industry that makes big bucks convincng people that they willlive longer and healthier lives if they pay 3 times as much at "Whole Foods". Whole foods is just food, raw carrots and potatoes and all kinds of produce from your garden or from smal and big farms. I am a believer is whole foods but shun the propaganda of "Whole Foods".
Organic has morphed into big business ironically and as a big business often it is the organic foods that carry various diseases. They don't after all fertilize with those nasty chemicals and prefer horse shit or bull shit. You can buy a lot of these commercial orgainc foods with horse shit still clinging to them at "Whole Foods" and pay three times as much as you woud for the same vegetables that have never been shit on. Why? I have a garden, I can food and fruit from my garden. I consider it to be "organic" mostly. I don't use pesticides (see I'm organic" and i use very little chemical fertilizer. But these organic fruits and vegetable are not organic because of some OCD necessity to be "organic" they simply are the fruits of my labor. I carefully avoid anything labeled "Organic" and I don't consume unpasteurized milk or it's products (except for cheeses that meet the FDA standards for cheeses made with unpasteurized milk.
For the most part food is simply food. Your ody doesn't know if the carrot was fertilized with chemicals or BS. It converts the carrot into the lowest molecules in your intestines so that it can be disolved through the intestine walls. All of the carbs are converted to sugar regardless of if they are from sugar, brown rice or organic fruits and vegetables. By the time it gets into your bloodstream and is used by your body it is sugar, period. Obsessing over carbs is foolish but probably harmless. Why? Simply because your body can convert fats and proteins to sugar as it needs it and will. You need carbs and yur body can make them if you don't eat them. You need the MDRs and some basic requirements you need daily and others you can skimp on for weeks or months before they will cause a problem. If you get your MDRs than it truely doesn't matter what else you eat. Almost all of it will be turned into sugar and burned as energy to keep you warm, power your muscles and brain. The same brain that you think with to decide you don't need sugar is in fact powered by sugar.
Burning fat or losing weight (usually the same thing but not always. It is correct to say that it is simply a matter of using more calories than you consume. It is correct but for many of us more complicated. Your body, depending on your genetics, may want to store fat and you will find it much more difficult to prevail over what your body wants than smeone else will. Most truely obese people (over 350 lbs more or less) are obese because of their genes. For these people it is very difficult to lose weight and keep it off. The diets that work for many of us who are 20, 40 or 60 lbs heavier than we want to be will not usually work for someone who is 280 lbs heavier. It is easy to lose 20 or 30 lbs and only slightly more difficult to lose 40 or 50 lbs. Whole foods won't do it, organic foods won't do it, fad diets generally won't do it. (Sometimes fad diets do indeed work but mostly because the dieter has commitment, in these cases any diet would have worked). If you want to lose 20-40 lbs diet (as in eat less) and excercise, moderately but consistently. If you want to lose 250 lbs or more I can only wish you luck but would bet on it.
In her book Menace in Europe, Claire Berlinski puts today's food obsessions in the context of a whole series of would-be saviors, dating from the Dark Ages through more recent times, who were focused on "purity." She sees these people as basically Christian heretics, appealing to people whose status or economic position is threatened.
I am convinced that a lot of the crap people spend time on: obsessing about foods they eat, exercising umpteen hours, worrying over the environment, etc. is because we live a life of ease that allows people free time to panic.
If people had to work hard to keep bread on the table, we would have a lot less neuroses in the world. When you are just trying to stay alive, you don't have the interest in navel gazing.
Wish people would be happy, eat what they want, do what they want and not stick their nose into my life or my children's lives. Don't lecture me. Don't spend my tax dollars on ridiculous studies. Just LIVE.
so why have we had a drug war?
Why would someone care what substance I put into my body?
Why does Michelle Obama insist on foisting crap into school
Organic used to mean using a compost pile before the
liberals started up the B.S. on the matter.
Almost ten years ago, I wrote about Christians who raise organic/whole food to God's preference. I don't think the connection of food fashion and loss of Christianity is as strong as Barnhardt thinks. Consider the Seventh-Day Adventists, for example.
@Ten - the topic was organic food, but you switched it over to a vegan diet/anti-corporate/animal cruelty lecture. And not an especially solid one.
It was? And yet I find this in the original brief opinion:
I think we have been clear on this site that most dietary preaching here is about weight loss, not general health. Nobody can define a "healthy" human diet, as we are omnivores which means we can thrive on anything digestible.
Bias leads to myth. If you want a comprehensive scientific analysis on nutrition and disease you'll spend a lifetime at it, although you will find trends soon enough that refute the anything-goes nonsense commonly disseminated.
Yes, you are right. The first article was more general. It was the second that focused on organic food. My apology.