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Sunday, February 22. 2015

The Truth About the Crusades

J Christian Adams:

When President Obama cited the Crusades as an example of Christian bad behavior toward Islam, he wasn’t speaking with historical accuracy. But you’d never know that if you only know the conventional wisdom about the Crusades.

Instead of condemning ISIS barbarism as barbarism directed at Christians, Obama has sought to divorce the barbarism from theology. There are many reason for this, reasons covered by many others here at PJ Media and elsewhere. Among them is the fact that Obama and his movement see the world through such thick secular lenses that they are incapable of understanding the vast majority of the world (and the United States) that still sees the world through theological lenses.

Obama and his followers are a radical secular minority attempting to manage a theological world...

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There's ignorance, and then there's deliberate ignorance, after which come the lies in their inglorious multitude.

#1 Sam L. on 2015-02-22 12:25 (Reply)

The footprint of the Roman Empire was by the time of the Islamic wars of conquest (7th century) a wholly Christian patchwork of nations adhering to Latin or Greek culture.
Those nations, now all wholly Islamic, did not convert to Islam in the same way the Christian faith was spread. But entirely by war, massacre and forced conversion.
Muslims were still committing massacres and pogroms into the 20th Century During the distraction of WWI, millions died. Isis is only continuing the same.

What has changed is the West, what used to be the lands of Christianity. We had the reformation, Islam never has, we had a division of religious and secular authority, Islam did not.

We are no longer Bat-Shit Crazy, Islam still is.

The Crusaders had it right the first time!

#2 John the River (Link) on 2015-02-22 12:35 (Reply)

The Egyptian Christian community (the Copts) - like every other Middle Eastern Christian community - predates Islam itself by over 500 years.

The old Islam-never-had-a-Reformation saw gets a bit strained. The Reformation didn't somehow create a kinder, gentler, more moderate Christianity; it created Protestantism. It was about "re-forming" Christian theology and its adherents could be quite fanatical about that in many ways.

Luther, Knox and Calvin were decidedly not liberal, humanist, left-leaning Unitarians.

#2.1 JJM on 2015-02-22 16:28 (Reply)

Didn't say they did. (why are you expected to cover all permutations of historical effects in a short post?)
But the reformation and the end of the European religious wars combined with the rise of science and the increased importance of more widespread political power to different classes helped drag us out of the dark ages.

The savages of Isis would be right at home in the 8th century armies of Islam and vice versa the Islamic warriors of the that time would be at home in the land of the new Islamic Caliphate.

#2.1.1 John the River (Link) on 2015-02-22 17:49 (Reply)

Here's thought though: what if the extremists of the Islamic State[i] are [i]Islam's "Reformation"?

#2.1.1.1 JJM on 2015-02-23 07:03 (Reply)

Only if Martin Luther had urged the church to go back to blood-letting or virgin sacrifices. But he didn't, did he? He did want to print the Bible in German and reduce the power of the overly corrupt priesthood. That had very important effect on European development.

Isis is the Islamic "golden oldies". Isis is Islam attempting to put the band back together.

#2.1.1.1.1 John the River (Link) on 2015-02-23 11:20 (Reply)

They had their reformation. Just like Martin Luther, al-Wahhab led a return to scriptures - letting the Koran and Haddith be his guides.

Unfortunately, Muslim scriptures describe how to spread a cult through violence and terror. The problems with Islam today are DOto their reformation that started about 200 years ago.

#2.2 NJSoldier on 2015-02-23 07:57 (Reply)

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