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Invest your savings in guns and bullets. That way when they come for your savings, you don't mind letting them have it. In fact, it might even be enjoyable. And once they have all your savings, you won't be left to suffer in poverty as you'll be dead.
You can say that again: David Brooks and the New York Times deserve each other.
Re: The nexus between agriculture and queer and transsexual studies
There is no concept of queer plants and if there was, examples of queer plants would be fleeting as they would not reproduce and the only transsexual plants are because of human intervention. That should be the starting point of this discussion. I believe Ag includes livestock, bugs, fish, worms etc. involved in production of food and fiber. Worms are hermaphrodites (Apologies to Zachriel for usurping the nitpicker role).
Are you saying that the queer studies group's point is the parallel between themselves and worms?
Are you saying that the queer studies group's point is the parallel between themselves and worms? asks mudbug.
Is there an echo in here?
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mudbug
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2015-02-09 10:59
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mud, the Gang of Z does not recognize humor in rhetorical questions. Oh, those poor fellows (or fellowees).
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Sam L.
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2015-02-09 12:59
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fallows
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BillH
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2015-02-09 13:04
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as an Ohio organic dairy farmer, I have yet to run across a transgender dairy cow and there is only one career path for a queer bull, McDonalds
love to see these nit wits getting between a cow in heat and a bull, trying to prevent rape, informing her of her gender rights, sex as it should be queer farm animals have a one way ticket to dinner
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the egyptian
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2015-02-09 20:19
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that may not be strictly true. Ther is much learned speculation that maize (corn in the American vernacular) may be a mutant subspecies of an annual Central American Grass called Teosinite. The mutation is believed to have switched the location of the plant's male and female reproductive parts, moving the male structures (tassles) to the top of the central stem and the female structures (cobs) to the lateral branches.
What it means for us is that the seeds are more plentiful and easier to gather, but for the plant it means that it cannot reliable reproduce without human intervention, perhaps making it the only truly domesticated plant species. At any rate, what this inversion of sexual parts means is left for the interpretation of the individual. then you don't know squat, ever hread of open pollenated corn, grow some almost every year, if you let it go it will reseed year after yea
NewsMax: Report: Temperature Data Being Faked to Show Global Warming
The article cites an article which cites a blog which points out that raw data is adjusted due to changes in instrumentation and station location. Kevin Williamson: The Right is finally coming around to the understanding that what mainly distinguishes it from the Left is not its general preference for muscular foreign policy, its not always convincing defense of the Judeo-Christian tradition, or even its relatively faithful reading of the Constitution, as important as those things are. Rather, the fight between Right and Left is about coercion.
That is not quite correct. The current U.S. political Right usually advocates more coercion in the private sphere, but less coercion in the economic sphere. The current U.S. political Left usually advocates less coercion in the private sphere, but more coercion in the economic sphere. Maybe that's the way it used to be, but the left today supports and advocates political correctness which is designed to stifle debate. The IRS has been targeting conservative grassroots groups and harassing them. The NEA and other teacher's unions which are a powerful part of the Demoncrat party - and the Demoncrat party itself - has been fighting school choice initiatives. Obummercare forces insurance coverage to no longer provide the health care policies their customers wanted and instead provide more expensive coverage for things they don't need. In fact, it forces people to buy something they may not want. For decades, the Demoncrat party has championed taking money away from people who have earned it so that it can be given to people who have not. This has accelerated with Obummer. The Demoncrat party has increased the amount of regulations that have impacted the ability of individuals to use their property the way they want. The left wants to force people to not only tolerate gays, but to support them.
These are just a few instances where the left drives their agenda for the private sector by force. mudbug: fighting school choice initiatives... provide the health care policies ... taking money away from people who have earned it ... regulations that have impacted the ability of individuals to use their property
Those would be considered economic issues. You neglected to respond concerning how the political Right advocates intervention in personal affairs. Why is school choice an economic issue? Taking money from one person to give to another is not really an economic issue, it is a private property issue or a civil rights issue.
Another issue is where Demoncrats oppose right to work legislation and card check. This is a way of denying choice to workers and making them pay union dues even though they don't want to join a union. Pubbies are guilty of many of the same sins. There are even those on "the right" who support wealth transfers. But the idea that the left is about toleration and freedom in the private sphere is a nice dream. mudbug: Why is school choice an economic issue? Taking money from one person to give to another is not really an economic issue, it is a private property issue or a civil rights issue.
This is economics. The previous system was for parents to pay individually for education. That helped perpetuate the class system, as rich parents could pay for high quality education, as well as providing networking with others within the upper classes. This was no longer tenable in a modern economy which requires universal literacy. Public education provides a more equal opportunity for children regardless of class. School choice and vouchers tend to undermine the commitment to public education, and are seen as resulting in a two-tiered educational system. mudbug: Another issue is where Demoncrats {sic} oppose right to work legislation and card check. Again, that's economics. Unionization is seen to equalize the power balance between management and labor. mudbug: Pubbies are guilty of many of the same sins. The right has frequently sought to use coercion in the private sphere, including laws against contraception, abortion, homosexuality, adultery, divorce, etc. As a rule, the modern right wants more regulation in the private sphere and less in the economic sphere. The modern left wants more regulation in the economic sphere and less in the private sphere. Of course this is a generalization. There are those on the left and right who are libertarian, and those on the left and right who are authoritarian.
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Zachriel
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2015-02-09 15:17
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Unions have always been about creating a elite class of people who are alowed to earn more or in some cases work where others cannot. It is a classist, discriminitory, exclusion system. It works by creating a monopoly and then limiting workers so that higher pay and benefits can be extorted. It most certainly does NOT equalize power between labor and management. It distorts the power of the labor union to the detriment of society. Ask the dock workers who make $1400 a day what exactly are they going on strike for. It certainly isn't to equalize power and at their pay rates cannot possibly be about money. It is, as almost all unions strikes are, about power for the unions.
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GoneWithTheWind
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2015-02-09 15:38
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GoneWithTheWind: It most certainly does NOT equalize power between labor and management.
That's correct. Management still generally wields more power.
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Zachriel
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2015-02-09 16:59
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I can only assume you know that isn't true and cannot argue your belief so you must lie.
A level playing field would be that any employee could choose to belong to a union or not. And any employer could choose to bargin with the union or not. No department of labor to decide all cases in the favor of unions and no bought and paid for legislators to write special laws for unions. A true level playing field. As it stands now unions are the motherload of criminal acts and politician corruption. Most unions are Marxist and many are anti-American communist. The unions have singlehandedly driven most of our jobs offshore and turned our "civil servants" into overpaid and underworked bureaucratic elites. The various constrution unions cause every government project to cost at a minimum 30% more than it would if the union graft hadn't corrupted our political system. Our country is facing an unprecedented economic disaster thanks largely to the unions greed and hunger for power. Every close election in the past 100 years has been stolen with the help of union thugs and left wing neighborhood organizers. For the first time in my 71 years I do fear that we are probably going to lose this great country and the great experiment in constitutional democracy will collapse. The hand writing is on the wall and the union label.
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GoneWithTheWind
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2015-02-09 20:44
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Zachriel: Management still generally wields more power.
GoneWithTheWind: ... Most unions are Marxist and many are anti-American communist... Wow. Just wow. GoneWithTheWind: For the first time in my 71 years I do fear that we are probably going to lose this great country and the great experiment in constitutional democracy will collapse. Unions are much weaker now than during the period known as the Affluent Society. That seems to contradict your position. Do you watch a lot of Fox News by chance?
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Zachriel
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2015-02-10 07:35
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http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/07/seiu-marxists-try-to-scam-gop-over-immigration-amnesty-activists-getting-desperate/
http://www.trevorloudon.com/2012/01/socialist-seiu-leader-on-the-future-of-unions-and-the-o-w-s-movement/ http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/10/video-exposing-how-%e2%80%98occupy-wall-street%e2%80%99-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiuacorn-front-%e2%80%93-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democr/ http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/05/seiu%e2%80%99s-full-frontal-communism/ Unions are the backbone of today’s Democratic Party. They are also now almost all led by communists and socialists, and promote an anti-American agenda. http://www.trevorloudon.com/2014/02/red-unions-how-why-big-labor-leaders-betray-their-nation/ Unions Drive Communism In US http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/10/ted-cruz-gets-8-min-standing-ovation-ponder-pelosi-as-speaker-unions-drive-communism-in-us/ http://www.trevorloudon.com/2010/12/obama-moves-to-strengthen-labor-unions-communists-approve/ http://www.trevorloudon.com/2007/02/us-democrat-hopefuls-court-socialist-unions/ http://www.trevorloudon.com/2014/06/russian-communists-reaffirm-ties-to-american-comrades/ "the American Democratic Party has now been taken over and is being run the The International Communist Party" http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/12/amazon-reviewers-on-the-enemies-within-communists-socialists-and-progressives-in-the-u-s-congress/
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GoneWithTheWind
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2015-02-10 11:24
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Everything that involves money is not necessarily economic. Leave it to a lefty to see everything as a class struggle.
I find it amazing that lefties think school choice fosters a two tiered system. Public schools are incredibly expensive and especially in urban settings give poor results. People who can afford it see it is a crappy system and put their kids in good schools. Parents who can't afford good schools are stuck with the crappy schools and in NY have to hope they win a lottery to get in a good charter school. Thus we have a two tiered system. With school choice, much of the money used to send a kid to a crappy school is available to the parent(s) so they can send their kids to some of the schools the wealthier parents do. Thus less of a two tiered system. In any case, the issue is choice - something the left loves to shout about when the subject is abortion but not when it involves schools or union membership. Regardless how union membership is seen, it is still coercive in many states where you have to join an organization you may not want to (what ever happened to free association?). There is always a reason to limit your freedom. It's usually said to be good for you because somebody else knows better what's good for you. The examples of the right limiting private activity are ancient history. Maybe you want to chastise Christians for the Spanish Inquisition or the Crusades...
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mudbug
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2015-02-09 16:17
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mudbug: Everything that involves money is not necessarily economic.
economic, pertaining to the production, distribution, and use of income, wealth, and commodities. mudbug: I find it amazing that lefties think school choice fosters a two tiered system. We're not arguing the correctness of the view, only pointing out the distinction between left and right. mudbug: The examples of the right limiting private activity are ancient history. Where did you get that idea? Indeed, the Alabama Chief Justice just ordered local probate officials to ignore a federal ruling in an attempt to prevent gay marriages. The religious right is on the political right.,
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Zachriel
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2015-02-09 17:12
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Then your definition of economic activity implies almost any activity as there is now an economic (e.g. tax) component to just about everything. As I said, choice is a personal issue. Choice of who to associate with, choice of where to send kids to school, etc. The fact that money is involved is secondary.
WRT gays, what coercion is the right perpetrating? It is not illegal in Alabama to be gay or commit gay acts any more than heterosexual ones. If there is any coercion, it seems to me that the SCOTUS is coercing Alabama judges to perform ceremonies they find objectionable. Actually, this issue is economic as a main reason gays want to marry is to be able to get in tax and survivorship benefits. If they just wanted to profess their love for each other, they could have any ceremony they wanted but they want the government to get involved.
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mudbug
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2015-02-09 18:08
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mudbug: Then your definition of economic
You mean Merriam-Webster's definition. mudbug: It is not illegal in Alabama to be gay or commit gay acts any more than heterosexual ones. It was until very recently when the courts struck down Alabama anti-sodomy laws (Lawrence 2003). It was the political right who resisted the change, just as they resisted liberalization of contraceptive laws.
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Zachriel
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2015-02-09 19:40
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If you move far, far away from civilization and into a small town, you will still find the America of yesteryear. I live in such a town. Jobs for teens and the unskilled abound. Many teenagers here have no problems getting a job at a fast food restaurant, the grocery store or the sporting good store. We are lucky that we don't have many unskilled immigrants pouring into town or that would be ruined.
I am hopeful that my children will be able to find such a place for their children...I know that all of my kids are glad they were able to make some money and learn some job skills before they left the house. So sad that is impossible in most cities and towns nowadays due to the influx of poor, unskilled, uneducated immigrants. …and poor, unskilled and uneducated teens (because of labor laws) and young adults (because they haven't yet learned basic job skills previously acquired as teens with part-time jobs).
Just what do our political leaders think they've accomplished with this picayune system that disenfranchises people that used to be critical to growing an economy? Now those unskilled and uneducated youth make more money than Buffett by selling drugs and prune the population via gang wars that pour over into once peaceful streets. Or they learn jihadism on their computers so they can riot and loot at every non-PC slight. MissT, please don't let anyone know where you live. LOL! I will keep my location secret so that our little paradise lives on.
Choose places that the left does not consider 'ideal' and you will find a lovely place. (mostly the fly-over states without any 'high brow' universities and lots of blue collar-type jobs). Our current yoke is no more voluntary than that attributed to King George. It is just that the insidious absorption of Parliament into the executive branch of 18th century Britain, which our Forefathers sought to circumvent for us, has come to pass here.
Neither party, nor any of the branches support individual liberties anymore, except as window dressing to avoid revolt. Even as they work to subvert the traditions of English-speaking peoples for liberty. Turns out 2015 is the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta. All our traditions derive from the Magna Carta, but we like the British surrendering to the absolute monarchal traditions of the EU, are are risk of giving them up. I recommend the entire talk by Professor Robson linked above. His talk is the first 45 minutes of the video. NY Real Estate: was it not 30 or so years ago the big fright was the Japanese buying up NYC?
NYT Proofreaders: Gone the way of the Great Auk. The Dodo, too. Obama wants our savings: As Willy Sutton said about robbing banks, "That's where the money is." Regardless of what Greece does, the Greeks are no more likely to pay taxes than they are now. David Brooks: Around the bend and completely out of sight. Greece is running out of money. Socialism if just wonderful till you run out of other people's money.
I’ve been reading these French Jews planning to leave France articles for years now. Have they? Is the Jewish population of France in 2015 forty percent of the Jewish population of France in 1990?
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