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Tuesday, August 26. 2014
Everybody knows that there is a dysfunctional black urban subculture, and that there is not a single thing that liberal white folks can do about it.
There are deeply dysfunctional white, mostly rural, subcultures too, but nobody cares at all about them. There will always be people on the fringes of society.
I work alongside black Americans. They are totally normal nice people. Living in NYC, I no longer even notice race, ethnicity, etc anymore. A waste of mental bandwidth. But when I (rarely) encounter a member of my tribe (New England Christians, gun-owning Red Sox fans with some immigrant blood), it's a fun moment of reunion. A shock of recognition.
Surber: Ferguson is about white guilt
Bill O’Reilly gets schooled on white privilege by Megyn Kelly
Happens to me all the time. "You're white - so let me give you a great job with more money than you want, and I will never fire you. Plus free cupcakes." Being white is way cool.
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Kelly, who is usually pretty bright spouted a bunch of bogus statistics in support of the "white privilege" meme. The first one that made any sense to me is "20% of white kids in a single parent home; 52% of black kids are".
Exactly what does that have to do with "white privilege"? Do the 48% of black kids who live in two-parent homes have "black privilege"? During Jim Crow, the disparity between black and white unemployment was much less. How could that be? After all, if there was a time in the last hundred years where there was white privilege, that was it!
Most of the other statistics she mentioned can be countered by "what is the responsibility of blacks in those statistics"?
The statistics are accurate. It is the reasoning that is bogus. You do a good job of analyzing the bogus reasoning. As you point out, it is absurd to cry "white privilege" when one ignores the issue of black responsibility for those behaviors.
As if it were the KKK which is forcing blacks to have unwed children!
During Jim Crow, the disparity between black and white unemployment was much less. How could that be? After all, if there was a time in the last hundred years where there was white privilege, that was it!
In addition, during Jim Crow, the disparity between black and white illegitimacy rates was much less than it is now.
In defense of blacks, a lot of the increase in the black illegitimacy rates since the 1950 came from the gummint increasing welfare rolls, while requiring that there be no "man in the house" in order to receive that blessed gummint money. This is a case of liberal good intentions leading to bad consequences.
I agree fully, Gringo. Thanks for expanding on my thought!
"there is not a single thing that liberal white folks can do about it."
Maybe not the Liberals, but the rest of us can:
1. Stop funding and subsidizing bad behavior through Welfare.
2. Stop the Drug War.
3. Find "Civil Rights" leaders who preach success instead of failure.
No, there are things they can do, but won't--wouldn't be liberal, wouldn't be progressive. They NEED there to be a black under class.
Agree except the drug war provides a convenient reason to pull socially dysfunctional black yutes off the streets.
Not sure how ending the 'drug war' would improve black social function although ending the 'drug war' may be beneficial in other areas. Getting feral black yutes off the streets by whatever means possible is not a bad thing in my book.
Link correction: Surber: Ferguson is about white guilt. A quotation follows.
The pattern is familiar. Someone accuses the police of something outrageous (gang-raping Tawana Brawley, beating Rodney King, covering up the murder of Trayvon Martin, hunting down Michael Brown) or some other white group (Duke lacrosse team gang-raping Crystal Magnum). There are demonstrations and protests and in the case of Rodney King a billion-dollar riot.
But the facts are a far cry from the NAACP fantasy.
Tawana Brawley lied to excuse missing curfew.
Rodney King led police on a high-speed chase and needed a beating to subdue him (according to two -- count 'em two -- juries.
Crystal Magnum lied.
Trayvon Martin beat George Zimmerman's head against a sidewalk.
Michael Brown punched a police officer.
However, by the time the facts come out, it is too late. We are told that, well, this goes beyond the actual facts into some Greater Issue. Black people are afraid.
When 73% of black children are born to unwed mothers with no father living in the home, you can stop all the pondering about the reasons for the abysmal failures on every level in the African American community.
It's so simple it's stupid.
Ferguson was all about juicing black turnout in the Fall elections.
Anyone else notice that the cycle of black outage is miraculously synchronized with election cycles?
"I no longer even notice race, ethnicity, etc anymore".
This is something that a lot of people who do notice race simply do not understand. I lived in Mississippi in the early 60's and I worked with blacks and good ol boy Southerners in the 60's. There was racism but not what you generally see in the movies about that time period. But over the last 50 years things changed. Very few white people think about race and ethnicity (or at least very few think about it with prejudice in mind). That is what the minorities fail to understand. I never think about race or prejudice or discrimination until and unless I see it on the news. But my black friends and relatives think about it all the time. In their culture it is a common subject, they can't get away from it and they can't get it out of their mind. I am sure they white people are also thinking about it as much and assume with the opposite view. But we don't. We think about work and bills and vacations and meals, hobbies, etc. but never about race or racism. Until everyone feels the same way racism will be alive and well.
I never think about race or prejudice or discrimination until and unless I see it on the news. But my black friends and relatives think about it all the time.
As, I see it, a big reason why blacks think about race all the time- or much more than whites- is that they are in the minority. Why do I say that?
I worked in Trinidad for a some months. I found myself constantly categorizing people- Black, Indian, Oriental, White, mixed. After a while I got tired of my categorizing. I certainly categorized more than when I was in white minority Trinidad than when I was in white majority USA.
I suspected in Trinidad that while blacks were outwardly polite, in their heart of hearts thought otherwise about me. One time an old black woman called me a "white MF C###" for wearing shorts- in a country where a substantial proportion of the adult male population wore shorts. The people I worked with were friendly. The old lady- whom bystanders informed me was drunk- was the exception.
I decided that I didn't care what people thought of me, as long as they were polite. After that I was more comfortable.
When I left Trinidad, I sat on the plane next to a black Trini who was a MBA student at USC. He understood what I was saying about being in a minority. As he put it, "the shoe is on the other foot."
From my experience,there is something to being in the minority.
Yet in all my years as a tourist and worker in Hispanic America, I felt discomfort about being in a racial minority only once- and that discomfort went away. In the Peruvian mountain town of Huaras, I got called "gringo..gringo..gringo." It got on my nerves, but as I stated, my discomfort went away.
Why? Because they were very open. Such as the child who came up to me and said that he was blessed because God had wanted him to be born.
The women especially, were very jocular. I like joking around and quickly got used to their joking. When someone on a bus told me that there were bad people in the mountains where I would be hiking solo, who would rob me etc., I laughed. They're just like you, I said. [This was before the time of Sendero,when there really were bad people in the mountains.] I saw very few people on my 5 day hike, One peasant/herder invited me to share his hut, which I did. I also shared some of my food.
Some in Huaras wanted to teach me Quechua. I took them up on the offer. That was endearing. You have come here gringo, to see our mountains, but learn something about us. Decades later, I still remember some Quechua.
Got to laugh - Salon geez.
Now, of course, this being Fox, Kelly’s explication of the profound socioeconomic disadvantages of being a person of color in Ferguson was accompanied with video of a young, shirtless African-American man with an obscured face (and without images of Ferguson’s militarized police force).
In total denial about who put all those militarized cops out there. Needs to look in the mirror.
Kelly's right. Black people are infantile morons who are led by the basest of instincts and have neither the brains nor the gumption to make it on their own. They are fully dependent on their white masters for their basic necessities. Kelly needs to get a job at MSNBC.