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Saturday, December 21. 2013A multicultural question about Muslims
Multiculturalism gets quite complex. Above my pay grade, as Obama would say. Or is everybody just scared of Muslims? Nobody is askeered of Christians, and rightly so. Christianity teaches that we are all fallen, all sinners, all in need of redemption through Christ. I believe that, and I do not dislike gays at all although I do find all of the LGBT stuff very weird and distasteful.
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Cynical Response: "Multiculturalism" is essentially a sub rosa general attack on traditional Western values; or at least, whether understood by its various proponents as such, that's how it operates. Where traditional values of non-Western cultures are shared by the West, it doesn't matter because those alien cultures are meant to generally displace and diffuse those of the West - in a caustic solution, as it were. Whatever the nature of those foreign cultures, so long as they erode Western values they advance this goal and aren't subjected to the same moral judgments as the West.
Presumably Multiculturalists believe that once they've done enough damage to their native culture they will move on to correct the moral failings of the cultures they've embraced, believing those cultures will be as tractable as the one they've destroyed. About that I believe they are very wrong. A less cynical response might be that the Multiculturalists simply fail to take their own creed seriously - that is, they fail to take foreign cultures seriously on those culture's terms. Instead they understand and analyze those cultures entirely on their terms. Alienated from their own cultures, they don't appreciate that, say, Muslim North Africans are perfectly confident in their own culture, not embarrassed by it, and not interested in changing it. They don't appreciate how alien foreign cultures can be, and hostile not just to traditional Western values, but theirs, too. So they aren't bothered by the kind of apparent hypocrisy you point out. If multiculturalism worked, there would be a Jewish deli in Mecca.
Why do you think they are freaking out about Nazi, Shinto, Communism, Islam comment? It is not a world without hate they desire, but a world without Jesus.
They seek cultural hegemony.
All cultures are equal; some cultures are more equal. I'm with you. I just read where Piers Morgan said the first amendment shouldn't cover people like Phil Robertson.
I sent an email to CNN sort of like this: I find your on air talent offensive. I never watch your channel. That's how you handle the first amendment in America. Pass it on to Piers. I also do not dislike gays, but the antics of some of those of that persuasion is most definitely over the top. Especially in public, in places like San Francisco. I once made the mistake of looking at a web page done by someone known as "Zombie" of something known as the "Up your alley" in SF in 2008. It is a photographic documentary depicting public acts of sexual activity that I find disgusting, if not nauseating, to say the least. If anyone is naïve enough to think that SF police prevent that stuff in public, see http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/ but be forewarned that it is most definitely Not Safe for Work. What mature gays choose to do behind closed doors—that does not involve children in any way—I suppose is OK, but in public? It's a definite indictment of San Francisco and what passes for orthodoxy there. And I am moved to wonder if polygamy is next.
It's called the Folsom Street Fair, an annual event for pervs to air out their culture in public, sponsored by major companies.
San Francisco used to be such pretty city before the uglification by the Left. "It's called the Folsom Street Fair, an annual event for pervs to air out their culture in public, sponsored by major companies."
--As well as the Episcopal "Church." "Or is everybody just scared of Muslims?"
Hmm. Yeah. When again, exactly, was that last time a Christian strapped on a vest full of symtex and blew up everyone around him for God's sake? If A&E can fire Phil using the “morals and controversy” clause (I don’t know its real name) as a beard for firing him because of his religious beliefs, can businesses fire outspoken homosexuals using the same clause (while denying firing because of sexuality)?
* Phil apparently hasn’t heard that all orifices, natural and artificial, are suitable for pleasures (fisting, fingering, licking, sucking, et. al.) of the various sexual identities. Look to the poets’ support of NAMBLA. Look to the future. Multiculturalism is all about what is Approved Doctrine. Leftists have made a decision that attacking Islam in any form or fashion is Verboten, especially in the post-9/11 age. Leftists are knee-jerk reactionaries (along with mostly being plain jerks), and are very much for anything Conservatives are against. There's no thought in this whatsoever.
When Conservatives started noting the danger from hardcore Islam, what anti-jihad bloggers deemed "Islamists", Leftists were unable to see the difference, and decided that any mention by Conservatives of the problems of hardcore Islam is about all of Islam, therefore any mention, condemnation, etc, is deemed Islamaphobia, and Can Not Be Allowed. So, their unhinged reactionary insanity means that Leftists must protect not just Muslims, but Islamists, and all they do, including the persecution, jailing, whipping, and even deaths of gays. They then wrapped the hardcores and their beliefs under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, saying we must respect the beliefs of others. Though these same Leftists will not afford the same respect to Conservatives, who, unlike Islamists, do not want to slit the throats of Leftists (and all Infidels). When we says "liberalism is a mental disorder", we aren't far off. Leftists come up with all sorts of insane ways to support their political cult. Kinda the same way they say global warming causes snow. To be fair, it's not true that no one is askeert of Christians. Lots of people are, and lots of Christians have given them good reason to be, when they've had the upper hand. It's human nature: Christians who understand Original Sin know it very well. Left to ourselves, most of us will abuse power if we can get it, while telling ourselves we're acting for the best. Christians are hardly immune from this failing, though of course they have no special propensity for it, either, and I like to think we have good tools for dealing with it if we're willing.
Check out the Robertson family's YouTube "I Am Second" offering. These are not people who use their Christianity or anything else to beat people down. It's real simple, the Muslims will kill you if you criticize them, the Christians will either apologize or turn the other cheek.
So I tried to remember something Christians have done in my lifetime to make people afraid of them and nothing came to mind. But the more important point is that religion is like politics in that it has beliefs and an agenda and it also has many followers. You can't blame a religion or a politicians if someone commits a crime and insists his religious beliefs made him do it UNLESS the religion actually preaches that he do it. So sometimes some nut commits some nutty act in the name of Christianity but when it happens there is outrage by the religious community against it. But when a radical muslim commits a nutty act or worse where is the outrage from the muslim community?
As someone once said; Radical muslims want to kill infidels and moderate muslims want radical muslims to kill infidels." |