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Wednesday, November 13. 2013

Gotta break a few eggs to make a good mess

Via Worst Yet to Come: Media's ObamaCare Cover Up Marches On:



Just as the media and the White House knew and covered up the fact that ObamaCare would devastate the individual market, they know and are now covering up the fact that the Obama administration itself has predicted that once ObamaCare's employer mandate hits in about 14 months, tens of millions could lose the insurance President Obama relentlessly reassured them they could keep...



Who is surprised? That was the whole point.


CNN's Tapper: No Dems Will Talk to Us After Obamacare Numbers


The Oleaginous Interaction of Sex and Obamacare


Here's the "It's good for you" argument: It’s Good That You Can’t Keep Your Insurance Plan


Mead thinks American medical care requires a federal fix of some sort


The "problems" with Obamacare - not including the tech failures - are not bugs, they are features. The strategic brilliance of it all is unfolding. 85% were satisfied with their medical care before, but watch that number drop fast with outcries for a government fix of the supposed government fix. 


Image of purported Obamacare ad via Doug Ross



Posted by The News Junkie in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 19:47 | Comments (17) | Trackbacks (0)

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One wants to like Mead. He's so sincere. But on the other hand it seems that time after time he refuses to take his observations to their proper conclusions.

In short, deep down he's a beard chewing putz.
#1 vanderleun on 2013-11-13 21:14 (Reply)
i.e., a college professor in the social 'sciences'.

Bless his heart, he still accepts the basic disproven assumptions of global warming.
#1.1 phil g on 2013-11-14 10:32 (Reply)
perhaps I should have said 'discredited'.
#1.1.1 phil g on 2013-11-14 10:42 (Reply)
The "problems" inherent in ANY government solution are not bugs, but features. That's the nature of government which is simply made up of humans that act like humans. By its very nature, government is less effective than free markets because signals that work more effectively and efficiently in a free market are distorted, delayed and perverted in the government model. The folks that drew up the Constitution understood this and limited the federal government's powers consistent with that belief.
#2 Mike M on 2013-11-13 21:19 (Reply)
And just wait until the special capital gains surtax (of 3.8%) that's hidden away in Obamacare starts to kick in. A lot of middle income people who think only other RICH people will pay the surtax could be in for a rude surprise....as, when in retirement, they sell the house they've lived in for 40 years or more in order to downsize to a smaller home. In the year real estate is sold, even middle income people may become temporarily wealthy for tax purposes. Yes, there is an individual and marital exclusion from the tax, but if you have chosen wisely and lived in a house whose market value has appreciated substantially over a long period of time, the exclusion may not suffice to shield your entire capital gain from tax. It's coming. You are warned.
#3 Agent Cooper on 2013-11-13 21:32 (Reply)
An excellent point, AC. Democrats have become remarkably good at convincing the public that it is someone else who are "the rich," and screwing you in that brief time when "hey, that's me!" In any given year, there aren't enough people being screwed to vote them out, and when it's not you right now, you just want to stay under the radar and hope it does away. We keep trying to awaken the public by telling them it's what the Soviets did, but really, this is new. Neither the Soviets nor the softer socialists of NW Europe ever figured out such a great evasion. I don't have an answer to this great PR move whereby they screw a small percentage of us badly every year, but not a majority every year, so that they can keep getting elected. It's dishonest and callous, but it's brilliant. More Americans would have to be wise for this to be exposed and stopped. Not gonna happen.

We're just screwed, and the best we can do is be decent and honorable in the long twilight struggle. I have disagreed with you on other things and likely will again, but am glad to have you as an ally on the long road, AC. We do what we can.
#3.1 Assistant VIllage Idiot (Link) on 2013-11-13 22:48 (Reply)
The best is yet to come when people discover the reality of the expansive, low quality, low choice "insurance".

QUOTE:
ObamaCare’s most striking feat has been to simultaneously degrade the quality of private insurance, while also making the resulting health plans unaffordable. The plans are so costly that people need government subsidies just to afford the premiums.


The sad part is, it appears the Republicans are in on this plan to destroy the private market. Otherwise, they'd be pushing real alternatives to Obamacare that moved people off employment based plans, but also off government plans.
#4 JKB on 2013-11-13 22:29 (Reply)
The House is set to vote on a bill by Michigan Rep. Fred Upton (R) that would grandfather in existing health insurance policies, even those that are "substandard" because they don't meet the requirements of the Obamacare law. If the bill gets enough Democratic support to pass both the House and the Senate, let's see if Obama is foolish enough to veto it. My guess is Harry Reid will realize any such bill would paint the President into a corner and, if he vetoed it, as seems likely he'd do when he gets mad at anyone who challenges him, it would spell absolute disaster for the Democrats who are running for re-election in 2014. I expect the Senate will kill every attempt to "fix" the new law because they have no other choice. Sure, they will get some blame for the fiasco the Obamacare rollout has become, but they certainly don't want Republicans to get credit for coming to the rescue. No, not at all. Instead, they will have to keep looking for some way to put the blame on the Republicans, just you wait 'enry 'iggins, just you wait.
#5 Agent Cooper on 2013-11-13 22:33 (Reply)
An, that will be the (further) downfall of the Democratic party. I'm not saying the GOP is on any more firm ground, but Harry et al have to see the writing on the wall - People are unhappy loosing their current coverage, the replacement sucks (even if you can get online and sign up), no amount of grandstanding\cheerleading is gonna improve its image, and Prez. Pinocchio cannot afford to agree to any fixes to his legacy (I say albatross) law he so crowed about.

Even here in the Mid-Atlantic, one grocery union is threatening a strike over Giant\Safeway cutting down hours, and removing HC coverage, forcing their members to join O-Care. [url] http://www.wbal.com/article/103912/2/template-story/Unions-Willing-To-Walk-Over-Health-Care-Coverage[/url]

So, I highly doubt the "55% of polled say they're unhappy with O-Care" - I think the number is much higher, growing, and our political class are feeling the heat rise.
#5.1 fred zeppelin on 2013-11-14 07:06 (Reply)
It occurs to me that had it not been for the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare and John Roberts' opinion, we would not be enjoying the evisceration of this horrible idea.
#6 Boss Hijack on 2013-11-14 07:02 (Reply)
Yeah. I would bet that when the smoke clears, the honest historians (if there are any by then) 50 years out will place John Roberts at the center of this whole fiasco.
#6.1 BillH on 2013-11-14 10:20 (Reply)
That's why I once wrote on MF that Obamacare is a misnomer. It's really JohnRobertsCare.
#6.1.1 Agent Cooper on 2013-11-15 20:14 (Reply)
I hate to be extra-special dense* today**, but aren’t those “got insurance” ads parodies? For so much of life, I can’t tell anymore.

* dense, a dead and dated metaphor.

**today, ok, make jokes.
#7 ErisGuy on 2013-11-14 09:10 (Reply)
Take a peek at doyougotinsurance.com/. My take is that it's for real and aimed mainly at Colorado potheads, but there are links for potheads from other states too. My bet is it was paid for with Federal $$.
#7.1 BillH on 2013-11-14 10:31 (Reply)
Mead: "But if the public is signaling that it won’t accept any health reform that kicks people off pre-existing plans, that’s a serious challenge to any attempt to fix our broken system."

But the system wasn't broken until bureaucrats broke it. It had flaws and those flaws needed attention but it didn't need at the get go a total demolition.

What we need to recover is the concept of 'insurance', the protection against financial ruin for a serious health issue and end the tax advantage of company health insurance over individual and allow insurance to be sold/regulated accross state lines (interstate commerce) and tort reform.

Than decide what else might need to be down going forward. There are other ways to extend insurance and assistance to the poor without ACA.

Also you can't have a massive intitlement health system AND allow massive low skill immigration. Those two spell financial ruin. Progressives you need to decide if you want socialized health for those legally here and severely restrict immigration or massive immigration with no socialized health care. You can't have both.
#8 phil g on 2013-11-14 10:28 (Reply)
I think now that the Sh*t has hit the fan that more an more people are beginning to realize that Obamacare is a disaster. The low information voters and the too busy to pay attention voters are finally understanding that the "nuts" who shut down the government to try to end or delay Obamacare were right and those on both sides of the aisle who called them nuts and tea baggers were wrong. End it don't mend it.
#9 GoneWithTheWind on 2013-11-14 11:14 (Reply)
You expected more from this Potemkin Village???

Anybody with even half-sense could see the colossal train-wreck coming, with such glowing govenrmental successes as the tax code, easing up on mortgages, Sarbanes-Oxley, Banking reform, and a whole host of others.

The WH may have said 'never let a crisis go to waste', but they sure do like building them, then going Henny-Penny when the house-O-Dreck comes crashing down.

And our GOP friends are (again!) stepping into O's minefield by trying to ease the pain or fixing this terrible law.

I swear its political Stockholm Syndrome on the Potomac..
#9.1 fred zeppelin on 2013-11-14 15:25 (Reply)

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