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Tuesday, November 12. 2013

I cannot confirm whether this is accurate, but a commenter at Ann Althouse noted this:

..."the "health care provider" (must) interrogate the "patient" at each appointment and record the results in the government database. (And the provider who doesn't get the data gets financially punished.) The mandated interrogation is about smoking, whether or not the patient is being beaten at home, with whom and how often the patient is having sex, and how many guns are in the patient's home "

That's a quote from Obamacare describing your "annual health exam."

Lying doesn't cover half of it.

My doctor is now a spy for the State? Give me a break. No patient go along with that, nor will any good doctor. Do we have to get paranoid about our doctors now?

Posted by The News Junkie in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 10:59 | Comments (17) | Trackbacks (0)

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It would be interesting to know if somewhere in the 2000 pages of the law or the couple million pages of the bureaucratic regulations if it is "illegal" to lie to the federally funded inquisitor (doctor). It is ironic that it is illegal to lie to the police but not illegal for them to lie to you. So it seems so easy for the law makers and their co-conspirators, the bureaucrats, to pass laws that make us criminals that it would be unlike them to pass up this opportunity.

#1 GoneWithTheWind on 2013-11-12 11:09 (Reply)

We could see this coming.

Massachusetts was doing this 6 years ago with children. They were interviewing young kids and asking them about their parents' behavior and whether or not they inappropriately touched their children. If the children answered in the affirmative, they information was passed on to the police and the parent(s) became, "a person of interest".

The Boston Herald link is dead but Rush's link referencing it still works. They wrote:

"They're watching you right now," begins Michael Graham. "They counted every beer you drank during last night's Red Sox game. They see you sneaking out to the garage for a smoke. They know if you've got a gun, and where you keep it. They're your kids, and they're the National Security Agency of the Nanny State. I found this out after my 13-year-old daughter's annual checkup. Her pediatrician grilled her about alcohol and drug abuse.
Not my daughter's boozing. Mine. 'The doctor wanted to know how much you and mom drink, and if I think it's too much,' my daughter told us afterward, rolling her eyes in that exasperated 13-year-old way. 'She asked if you two did drugs, or if there are drugs in the house.' 'What!' I yelped. 'Who told her about my stasher, I mean, "It's an outrage!"' I turned to my wife. 'You took her to the doctor. Why didn't you say something?' She couldn't, she told me, because she knew nothing about it.

"All these questions were asked in private, without my wife's knowledge or consent. 'The doctor wanted to know how we get along,' my daughter continued. Then she paused. 'And if, well, Daddy, if you made me feel uncomfortable.' Great. I send my daughter to the pediatrician to find out if she's fit to play lacrosse, and the doctor spends her time trying to find out if her mom and I are drunk, drug-addicted sex criminals. We're not alone, either. Thanks to guidelines issued by the American Academy of Pediatrics and supported by the commonwealth, doctors across Massachusetts are interrogating our kids about mom and dad's 'bad' behavior. We used to be proud parents. Now, thanks to the AAP, we're 'persons of interest.'

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FDki-5rvosgJ:www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2007/10/05/socialized_medicine_the_state+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

#2 feeblemind on 2013-11-12 11:23 (Reply)

Paranoid? Or just exceptionally aware. I say aware.

#3 Sam L. on 2013-11-12 11:25 (Reply)

I know a doctor in my hometown very well. We have a good relationship and talk about lots of things whenever we see each other.

He confirmed for me that this is true months ago. He skirts the parts that he can get away with but is disgusted by this intrusion into his calling that he acknowledges as clearly against the law.

Has there been a legal challenge? There needs to be.

#4 Dangerous Dean on 2013-11-12 11:51 (Reply)

From a 09/15/13 NY Post article: "There’s one question they can’t ask: Thanks to the NRA, Section 2716 of the ObamaCare law bars the federal government from compelling doctors and hospitals to ask you if you own a firearm."

#5 Peter Buchheit on 2013-11-12 12:25 (Reply)

Section 2716 seems to have to do with employment discrimination. Snopes has this to say:

On 16 January 2013, President Obama announced a list of 23 executive actions intended to address the issue of gun violence in the U.S., one of which was to "clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes" (to counter the claim that a provision of "Obamacare" legislation barred doctors from asking such questions). Nothing in that action mandated that doctors must ask such questions of Medicare patients (or any other patients), however.

My recommendation would be to apply Miss Manners's all-purpose blankly polite face and the mild exclamation of "What an extraordinary question!" Repeat as necessary. In extreme cases, we might blandly take the Fifth.

#5.1 Texan99 on 2013-11-12 17:06 (Reply)

My daughter was asked if she had a gun in her home at her new baby's first appointment with the pediatrician. This was in 2012.

Back in the 1980s before I took my kids out of public school, my son was asked some questions about our home life because we refused to let him participate in "child abuse education." We viewed protecting him from predators as our job, not his and didn't feel that kindergartners should have such responsibilities placed on them. 1980s.

Fortunately, kids talk. They don't realize that they are supposed to keep such information from their parents.

#5.2 LHF on 2013-11-13 07:32 (Reply)

Here we go again.

Hitler loses his health insurance.

3:49 in length but it is clever and worth the time. Or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USG_gjaEYak

#6 feeblemind on 2013-11-12 12:32 (Reply)

these questions have been on my doctors questionnaire for a couple of years. I'll be curious if the firearm question will be removed

#7 Dennis on 2013-11-12 12:39 (Reply)

One wonders about the firearms question.

Does the ACA give the government permission to search you house for firearms?

Suppose you answer the question in the negative and then require health care. Can they search your home and if a firearm is found, deny you healthcare because you lied on the application?

What other reason could there be for such a question? Is it merely an attempt to know where the privately held firearms are located?

#7.1 feeblemind on 2013-11-12 13:52 (Reply)

I liked the answer an older character used on "House" when he was applying for one of the coveted positions on House's team. Asked how old he was, he said "Twenty-one, unless it's relevant."

#7.1.1 Texan99 on 2013-11-12 17:09 (Reply)

Q: Do you smoke?
A: Only when I'm on fire.

Q: Are you being beaten at home?
A: She beats me at most things.

Q: With whom and how often are you having sex?
A: With someone who likes me as often as I wish.

Q: How many guns are in your home?
A: None of your business, you nosy twit.

#8 Knucklehead (Link) on 2013-11-12 13:46 (Reply)

If you get interrogated by your doctor in a way that seems intrusive, just say NO. If he/she gets penalized by the ObamaStasi for your nonresponse, it's his/her problem, not yours. I've been waiting awhile for my HMO, Kaiser Permanente, to hand me an innocuous looking but excessively nosy questionnaire to fill in when I show up for my annual checkup, under the pretense it's intended to update my electronic medical record, but so far there's been no aggressive snooping on their part.

#9 Agent Cooper on 2013-11-12 14:46 (Reply)

Q: Do you smoke?
A: I am a smoker. I have developed a very delicious rub.

Q: Are you being beaten at home?
A: I'm old, I can't steal home anymore

Q: With whom and how often are you having sex?
A: Define sex. Ever since Bill Clinton, I never know if I or she is the one having sex.

Q: How many guns are in your home?
A: 612

The latter will smoke them out. When they come to steal them, they'll come heavy. You are sure to be screwed. Most likely not survive. Think of how many years they'll search for such an arsenal. Even better when you own or have access to lots of wooded land. Oh, and I'm at home in nature.

#10 JKB on 2013-11-12 20:17 (Reply)

It puts me in mind of the old Stephen Wright routine about living out in the middle of the desert alone for years, and getting a call from a banker who's tracked him down to dun him for his student loans. The banker asks what he's been doing with himself all these years. He replies, "I've been making a nuclear bomb. And I'd really appreciate it if you didn't call me any more."

#10.1 Texan99 on 2013-11-13 01:53 (Reply)

Then there's the farmer who told his wife to not let anyone know about the guns hidden in the south 40. Feds came, dug it up, found nothing, the wife tells him later, and asks "what should I do?" Plant the south 40, he replied.

Tell the doc all your guns are in the warehouse in Jersey, if The Mob hasn't picked them up yet..

#10.2 Sam L. on 2013-11-13 10:48 (Reply)

My Guns are like cats, They don't have an owner, they have staff. So I can truthfully answer, "no, I do not have guns." Besides, if the elected leaders of this country can lie and commit fraud; I must follow their example. Spin is the new truth.

#11 blick on 2013-11-13 11:54 (Reply)

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