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Wednesday, June 26. 2013Southwest-flavored story tunesThere are tons of them. Here are two classics:
A pretty good cover of Bob's Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts by St. Paul's Martin Devaney and band. A bit too sing-songy for me, but I can't find Bob's edgier, darker version. (the remarkable lyrics here) What are your favorites? Trackbacks
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Robert Earl Keen, The Road Goes on Forever.
This guy can tell some stories in his songs. Go mess around on youtube looking for his songs. Mike,
What came 1st...egg? Check the copyright dates...? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0HafJzbCBA REK is an excellent writer! TC Grew up on the Marty Robbins song. It still runs through my mind often as I shower. I have to make up most of the words now, but the tune has stayed remarkably true.
El Paso...THE BEST Country song ever writ...
What say U...buddy...? TC TC, if you get me off into ELH and Pancho & Lefty, i'll find myself still sitting here at 4:00 a.m., dusty face streaked with muddy tears, lost in looking for things that'll never be found, the speaker cord for my headphones hopelessly tangled in purple Sagaro cactus that won't ever let aloose, my old hoss dropping road apples behind my desk chair that i'll step on every time i git up fer nother shot o whusky --here --in attempt to stave that off --this is Southwestern and a story song, tho not the single balladeer classical-like. Pay attention to full throated guiter and banjo intro, it's a nice song, Kingston Trio, Farewell Adelita
buudy,
Sorry...time 2 drag U "kickin' 'n screamin'" back 2 "Pancho..& ...U know"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtzgwNDZAs4 BUTT..if 'n U insist... http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=1uIUe8iQPM0&feature=fvwp TC TC buddy,
Try this little "Ramblin' Jack" tune about life's pitfalls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmhZlAF3MZY TC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TljIfAjx-eI
When Liberty Valance rode to town the womenfolk would hide, they'd hide When Liberty Valance walked around the men would step aside 'cause the point of a gun was the only law that Liberty understood When it came to shootin' straight and fast---he was mighty good. From out of the East a stranger came, a law book in his hand, a man The kind of a man the West would need to tame a troubled land 'cause the point of a gun was the only law that Liberty understood When it came to shootin' straight and fast---he was mighty good. Many a man would face his gun and many a man would fall The man who shot Liberty Valance, he shot Liberty Valance He was the bravest of them all. The love of a girl can make a man stay on when he should go, stay on Just tryin' to build a peaceful life where love is free to grow But the point of a gun was the only law that Liberty understood When the final showdown came at last, a law book was no good. Alone and afraid she prayed that he'd return that fateful night, aww that night When nothin' she said could keep her man from goin' out to fight. From the moment a girl gets to be full-grown the very first thing she learns When two men go out to face each other only one returns. Everyone heard two shots ring out, a shot made Liberty fall! The man who shot Liberty Valance, he shot Liberty Valance, He was the bravest of them all. The man who shot Liberty Valance, he shot Liberty Valance, He was the bravest of them all. === (emphasis mine) buddy,
Qu'est on dit (en Francais)...les lyrics to this excellent "chanson"? TC The Man who Shot Liberty Valence: written by Noo Yawkuz Burt Bacharach and Hal David. Sung by Gene Pitney, the pride of Rockville, Connecticut.
My favorite: anything to do with the King of Western Swing, a.k.a. Bob Wills. Try this one by Guy Clark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8KbS5t0NuOU Let him Roll is a good one James. I really like Guy Clark.
Yeah, they'd probably like Rita Ballou also. It's amazing how many people havecovered his stuff.
Yes indeed. Back slidin' barrel ridin' Rita Ballou is another good song. I acquired several guy Clark albums in the late 70s.
It is great beer drinkin' music. James,
Met Guy @ Combine Music on 16th Ave...great writer! If U might...try this one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCpWmP77Mi8 + God bless the boys who make the Noise... TC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Fv9-zkt2I I'll give it a whirl. Remember this one from ole Walk Around Ramsey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qHRCg-fK9Ss Used to toss Townes Van Zandt out of the bar I worked at. Could write a song, but had a hard time being a human. James,
Thanx for introducing me to Willis Alan Ramsey. I'll search out more of his tunes. I also like Ray Wylie Hubbard. Texas produces some great writers! Townes's story is, indeed, a sad one. The good writers have spent life "on the edge of reality" and that is why their songs are so real. TC Wow --i'd forgotten all about that song --hadn't heard it since --i was 'son' --and now i'm the old guy wastin awa y --f**k!
buddy,
U sure U ain't Ur "own....." ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qtHZDPoRdU (time 2 release Ur demons...bub...)? TC The Marty Robbins album pictured was one of the first albums I ever purchased. Lots of good songs on that one.
Al Stewart is probably my favorite though. fm,
"Tea For The Tillerman" is an "ALL time" favourite along with too many others...a GREAT LP. TC Hey - don't forget about Me and My Uncle from John Phillips. I heard it first from the Grateful Dead way back when dinosaurs ruled the earth...
...and let's not forget about Spider John by Willis Alan Ramsey. He didn't write and record very many of them, but the ones he did were wonderful. I think the Sam Bush cover is one of the best, myself.
Damn - now I'm going to be thinking about this for the rest of the evening. Sam Bush is that great fiddler on those incandescent ELH "Making Believe" cuts from the early 90s with the Nash Ramblers. He is GOOD alright !
TC --i'm catching up --but i have to vamoose and dine on spaghetti cooked up by daughter Hettie first. Naw her name ain't Hettie butitrhymes buddy,
"There once was a girl named Hettie Her spaghetti was known as "fergetti" But buddy was hungry And Hettie was..... And buddy......." I'm not a poet 'n I know it... TC --bringing dessert, Miss Sarah N. Getty,
a dish from the Desert of the Serengeti ((gRoaN RCz,
Thanx for my intro to Willis Alan Ramsey. I believe U must be from the Austin, TX area? Ever heard of Blaze Foley? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69YCXgVdyR4 (The Duct Tape Messiah) Merle has... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4LdyF2I6js Fer buddy (and all Y'all), TC I nominate "The Streets of Laredo" and "Git Along Little Dogies." Also, most of the music played on the Renfro Valley, Kentucky, radio station (hosted by Old Joe Clark) in the 1960s and '70s.
Toy Southwest story tunes? I have to go with U Utah Philips, the Golden Voice of the Great Southwest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5-1X-NSmg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks-LmHAGouQ SM,
First saw "Utah" live in 1975. The video clips brought back some great memories. Thanx. TC Tom Russell: Banks of the Musselshell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaCQaWRgruo More Tom Russell: Bucking Horse Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yTB0lVQHY0 Can't resist one more: Ramblin' Jack Elliott with Tom Russell:
The Sky Above, The Mud Below http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_srBPRntMk I'm gonna listen to all of 'em --but haven't yet --here is my first obsessional song --mom and dad laughed at the memory their whole lives --of me a pre-schooler listening to this thing over and over as long as they'd let me sit in front of the machine -- and look at the comments --LOTs of very young kids were doing the same thing --magic in thar somewhere --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9VrgRIgOK0 ...and none of 'em are cooked, like the USA's goose is
:-( buddy,
Speaking of "cooking one's goose"...I left ya a little "Ramblin' Jack" uphill @ #3.1.3. TC Ramblin' Jack Elliot, another New Yorker, joins Bacharach and David, the composers of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, as members of the Noo Yawk Cowboy Club.
Which reminds me of Way Out West on West End Avenue, written by Rogers and Hart. Unlike Bacharach and David, Rogers and Hart saw the irony of a Noo Yawkah writing about the Wild West. Or at least the lyricist Lorenz Hart did. As a further example of Lorenz Hart's humor, consider We'll Take Manhattan. "It's very fancy on old Delancy Street" has its humor, considering that Delancy is on the Lower East Side.
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2013-06-27 11:05
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"Oklahoma!" --Rodgers & Hammerstein. Hammerstein's poppa was the German Jewish immigrant whose Borscht Belt Vaudeville act 'invented' the 'pie-in-the-face' routine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbrnXl2gO_k http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma!
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2013-06-27 11:25
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg5cwSBnyQU
=== Problem was, the actual folks who settled the frontier were great talents as settlers but weren't much fer show-biz, and the actual show-biz talents weren't gonna write "Oklahoma!" --and get it to Broadway --ropin' dogies from hossback out on the frontier.
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2013-06-27 11:38
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"I'll teach you all a little sayin'
And learn the words by heart the way you should I don't say I'm no better than anybody else But I'll be danged if I ain't just as good! I don't say I'm better than anybody else But I'll be danged if I ain't just as good!" === http://www.elyrics.net/song/o/oscar-hammerstein-lyrics.html === TC, i'll get to 'im --got to type befo the arthritee gets in m'fangers --
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2013-06-27 11:57
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Problem was, the actual folks who settled the frontier were great talents as settlers but weren't much fer show-biz, and the actual show-biz talents weren't gonna write "Oklahoma!" --and get it to Broadway --ropin' dogies from hossback out on the frontier.
While they weren't showbiz types, "the actual folks who settled the frontier" certainly had musical capabilities. Check out Alan Lomax's The Folk Songs of North America. "Get Along Little Dogies" is among the songs listed. Bob Wills, who was descended from frontier settlers, and who incorporated many old folk songs into his Western Swing play list, certainly had musical talent. Bob Wills and his musical predecessors on the Western frontier just didn't do Broadway. Different place and/or different time. "The actual folks who settled the frontier" would have done so by ~1890, which is the approximate date historians agree on for the closing of the frontier. Bacharach and David wrote "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence" in the 1960s, well after the closing of the frontier. Ditto the musical "Oklahoma," written in the '40s- after "the actual folks who settled the frontier" had pretty much died off. As the myth of the frontier was still going strong in America, well after the closing of the frontier, showbiz types like Bacharach, David, Rogers, Hart, and Hammerstein saw commercial possibilities in the Western Cowboy/frontier myths, and struck gold with the likes of "Liberty Valence" or "Oklahoma!" etc. Texans like Bob Wills, and Okies like Roger Miller of bygone days and Toby Keith of current days certainly had songwriting capabilities. It is rather that the frontier myth was so strong that it attracted people from all over the country. Similarly, when Western Swing broke out of its Southwestern home in the 1940s and went national, it was played by people from all parts of the country. Bill Haley, a Pennsylvanian best known for such seminal rock and roll songs like "Rock Around the Clock," began his musical career as Bill Haley and the 4 Aces of Western Swing. Pretty good yodeler.
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2013-06-28 13:03
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Many words summed up: As the old ad said, "You don't have to be Jewish to like Levy's Rye Bread." Similarly, you don't have to be from Texas or Oklahoma to make money off the Cowboy myth.
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"Oklahoma" was based on the play "Green Grow the Lilacs," written by Lynn Riggs, who was himself an Oklahoman (and 1/8 Cherokee.) He was living in Paris, though, when he wrote "Green Grow."
There was also a Japanese version:
YOOOOko-hama, where the wind comes sweepin' down the prain, And the wavin' wheat can sure smerr sweet, When the wind comes right behind the rain! Yooooko-hama, Ev'ry night my honey ramb and I, Sit arone and tark and watch a hawk makin' razy circers in the sky. We know we berong to the rand (yo-ho) And the rand we berong to is gland! And when we say Yeeow! Aye-yip-aye-yo-ee-ay! We onry sayin' You're doin' fine, Yokohama! Yokohama O.K.! While in Japan many years ago, I heard "The Green Green Grass of Home" sung in Japanese.
df,
Were the opening words: "The old grass still smells The same As I fell of the train And there was to greet me Was no Momma and no Papa Down the road I look and there comes Bessy Damned good cow butt kinda messy I sure do miss the Green Grass Of Home .../et al... TC --and always, behind the myth stands a transcending fact --that aside from the geography, the frontier was a gap between the Paleolithic and the Industrial, where in almost living memory, our grandfather fathers with railroad and telegraph collided head-on under an open sky on an endless plain with painted warriors of the stone-age.
Sounds like sci-fi, don't it? Like what a writer might imagine if his assigment was to take out everything from Homer to Napoleon and then bring together the people standing there at either edge of the missing gap. --ok, let's go for baroque and see who's rococonuts:
name the best combos of film and song! 3) 2) Liberty Valance 1) High Noon* * by Dimitri Zinovich Tiomkin, http://www.dimitritiomkin.com/biography/dimitri-tiomkin/ ... born in Kremenchuk on May 10, 1894. His mother, Marie (née Tartakovsky), was a music teacher and his father, Zinovie, a physician. A student at the St. Petersburg Conservatory, he excelled as a solo pianist under the tutelage of Felix Blumenfeld and Isabelle Vengerova, and also studied with composer Alexander Glazunov, the conservatory’s director. In his spare time, Tiomkin frequented the “Homeless Dog” café, fraternizing with other avant-garde bohemian artists, including fellow student Serge Prokofiev and dancer Mikhail Fokine. Tiomkin’s professional debut in film music came in St. Petersburg’s cinemas, where he accompanied Russian and French silent films. He also provided piano accompaniment for the ballerina Thamar Karsavina on army post tours and improvised on the piano during performances by the comedian Max Linder. These experiences and the skills he gained helped lay the foundation of his American film music career. Even Tiomkin’s interest in American popular music began in Russia, where he first heard Irving Berlin’s Alexander’s Ragtime Band at the “Homeless Dog,” and where he was exposed to ragtime, blues, and early jazz through one of his piano students, a black minstrel-show singer from New Orleans who had remained in Russia after a vaudeville tour. In St. Petersburg, Tiomkin’s early life was marked by such political events as the overthrow of the Tsar, the Russian Revolution, and the rise of Soviet Russia. His whereabouts from 1919 to 1921 are unclear. He apparently was involved in the music direction of the 1920 reenactment of “The Storming of the Winter Palace.” This massive pageant featured thousands of performers, including 500 musicians and 125 ballet dancers. ... it was the film High Noon (1952), produced by Kramer and directed by Fred Zinnemann, that changed the course of Tiomkin’s career. The unorthodox score, incorporating a song with lyrics, “Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darlin’,” fueled a theme-song craze. Songs written for films – as opposed to preexisting songs used in films – grew in popularity. Over the next dozen years, Tiomkin himself wrote a title song or ballad for nearly every picture he scored, often collaborating with Ned Washington or Paul Francis Webster. A number of Oscar-nominated songs followed: “Thee I Love” from Friendly Persuasion, the title song from Wild Is the Wind, “Strange Are the Ways of Love” from The Young Land, “The Green Leaves of Summer” from The Alamo, the title song from Town Without Pity, and “So Little Time” from 55 Days at Peking. His songwriting talent, combined with his scoring expertise, led to song compositions that graced their films with a dramatic narrative. === So the icon film of American of Westerns, the theme song Ike Eisenhower's favorite, starring American ideals Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly, had previously saved the Moscow-famine-digraced 1921 Bolsheviks from extinction with release of the Bolshi iconic film "The Storming of the Winter Palace" --! --ok, let's go for baroque and see who's rococonuts:
name the best combos of film and song! 3) 2) Liberty Valance 1) High Noon* * by Dimitri Zinovich Tiomkin, www.dimitritiomkin.com/biography/dimitri-tiomkin/ ... born in Kremenchuk on May 10, 1894. His mother, Marie (née Tartakovsky), was a music teacher and his father, Zinovie, a physician. A student at the St. Petersburg Conservatory, he excelled as a solo pianist under the tutelage of Felix Blumenfeld and Isabelle Vengerova, and also studied with composer Alexander Glazunov, the conservatory’s director. In his spare time, Tiomkin frequented the “Homeless Dog” café, fraternizing with other avant-garde bohemian artists, including fellow student Serge Prokofiev and dancer Mikhail Fokine. Tiomkin’s professional debut in film music came in St. Petersburg’s cinemas, where he accompanied Russian and French silent films. He also provided piano accompaniment for the ballerina Thamar Karsavina on army post tours and improvised on the piano during performances by the comedian Max Linder. These experiences and the skills he gained helped lay the foundation of his American film music career. Even Tiomkin’s interest in American popular music began in Russia, where he first heard Irving Berlin’s Alexander’s Ragtime Band at the “Homeless Dog,” and where he was exposed to ragtime, blues, and early jazz through one of his piano students, a black minstrel-show singer from New Orleans who had remained in Russia after a vaudeville tour. In St. Petersburg, Tiomkin’s early life was marked by such political events as the overthrow of the Tsar, the Russian Revolution, and the rise of Soviet Russia. His whereabouts from 1919 to 1921 are unclear. He apparently was involved in the music direction of the 1920 reenactment of “The Storming of the Winter Palace.” This massive pageant featured thousands of performers, including 500 musicians and 125 ballet dancers. ... it was the film High Noon (1952), produced by Kramer and directed by Fred Zinnemann, that changed the course of Tiomkin’s career. The unorthodox score, incorporating a song with lyrics, “Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darlin’,” fueled a theme-song craze. Songs written for films – as opposed to preexisting songs used in films – grew in popularity. Over the next dozen years, Tiomkin himself wrote a title song or ballad for nearly every picture he scored, often collaborating with Ned Washington or Paul Francis Webster. A number of Oscar-nominated songs followed: “Thee I Love” from Friendly Persuasion, the title song from Wild Is the Wind, “Strange Are the Ways of Love” from The Young Land, “The Green Leaves of Summer” from The Alamo, the title song from Town Without Pity, and “So Little Time” from 55 Days at Peking. His songwriting talent, combined with his scoring expertise, led to song compositions that graced their films with a dramatic narrative. === So the icon film of American of Westerns, the theme song Ike Eisenhower's favorite, starring American ideals Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly, had previously saved the Moscow-famine-digraced 1921 Bolsheviks from extinction with release of the Bolshi iconic film "The Storming of the Winter Palace" --! |