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Wednesday, October 3. 2012Romney Slap Down of Obama in DebateRomney slaps down Obama assertions throughout the debate. Romney: "Everything he described is inaccurate." Then adds the wham to the slam with specifics and statistics. At the end of part one, about jobs, Obama even says to the moderator:"Jim, you may want to move on to another topic," needing the bell to survive. The rest of the debate, took the same course, across the deficit (Romney: "you've been President four years" and employment is down and the economy, too); energy (Romney says that all the growth in oil and gas production is on private land while government land permits have been halved); entitlements (Romney won't rob Medicare to fund Obamacare); Obamacare (Romney says that private enterprise and individual choices, state by state, is better and more efficient than centralized dictates); regulation (Romney describes how Dodd-Frank created 5 too big to fail banks and failed to define "qualified" loans, so has stifled bank lending; Obama blames Wall Street for economic meltdown, avoiding the Democrat Congressional pressure to have loose lending standards.) In the last round, Romney continues to pummel with specifics Obama's generalities, and tells Obama that Obama "is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts." Final Lehrer question for fast answer: how to break Congressional gridlock? Romney describes his successful experience working across the aisle and he will continue to do so, not to "compromise principle" but be "collaborative". "We need to have leadership in Washington to get the job done" among Democrats and Republicans. Obama says he has and will take ideas from anyone. (Gag alert!) But, "occasionally you have to say no." (That's all we've actually seen from Obama to Republican proposals.) Final spin by each: Obama says he has "faith and confidence" in the American people. He'll continue to do the same as he has done. Romney says "this is about the course of America" which leads in "very different directions", Obama's a continued "middle class squeeze", joblessness, lack of growth, health premiums increase by $2500 per family due to Obamacare, and "devastating" cuts to our military versus growth and security through unleashing free enterprise and individual freedoms. PBS's Jim Leher did an outstanding job of covering the most pressing domestic issues, without any bias at all. Instant commentators on TV give the edge to Romney. Usual apologists for Obama says Obama looked "rusty" while Romney looked confident, comfortable, was politely aggressive, came across well, and won the debate. (Examples from Memeorandum here, here, here, and more here, and that's in just the first few minutes after the end of the debate.) If the liberals on TV are giving Romney the edge, you know that it was a Romney slap down! CNN instapoll has it 67% win for Romney, 25% for Obama. 82% say Romney did better than expected. In effect, Romney went direct to the people, past the liberal press coverup for Obama. -- Email from a reader: Obama looked like he was "seeking his internal teleprompter." -- Excellent summary of details of the debate from Jennifer Rubin. Comments
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This is the Romney I'd hoped to see. He won this debate but it's just the first one. Can he win in November? Let's hope so.
The real excitement among the commentators is over thoroughly the President collapsed the first time he was required to answer questions in front of the American voters. The press has always shielded him from that up to now.
CBS and MSNBC coverage was all-Obama, all the time in the post-mortem.
Reporters focused on Obama's 'pivots' and responses, and barely mentioned Romney's effectiveness. Then the polls were shown. In the end, the commentary conceded at least a tie....which this was not. It was, as you said Bruce, a slap down of the highest order. Obama's much vaunted intelligence is clearly something only a teleprompter can provide. However, I do believe the media will continue to spin for Obama aggressively. Expect tomorrow's headlines to focus on Romney errors, minor though they may be compared to Obama's errors. I agree that Romney was the clear winner. O did get in a few good points, but Romney was clearly in control. I thought the style of the debate was great. It allowed a pretty free give and take. I wish they were all like that.
I certainly did not agree with some things that Romney said. I worried a little about what he was going to do with health care. And although I understand the politics behind it (and I do not doubt his sincerity), I didn't want to hear any more how he was going to save entitlements. Since their inception, they have been political footballs that in the end are just another way of buying votes. I just wish this were a race between conservatives and libertarians. As it is, there really is not choice (for me, anyway). We would be in deep doo-doo if O gets another four years. I read what Chris Matthews said and laughed. He said O should have been watching his, Maddow's, Sharpton's, and O'Donnell's shows throwing all pretense of any objectivity in MSNBC in the trash (but we really knew that already, didn't we?). On the economy, I think that voters who are concerned about the economy will get the definite impression that Romney will get the economy moving again, and the even stronger impression that Obama will not, and that these perceptions will certainly help Romney.
On Obamacare, Romney’s standard critique of it—it will hurt the economy, it involves too many regulations—and his continuing failure to attack it as a tyrannical expansion of government and bureaucratic power (as seen, e.g., in the birth control mandate), suggests that he will have no real zeal to repeal it. If he had such zeal, wouldn’t he have attacked it as the revolutionary, anti-American measure that it is, and not just for its inefficiency? Obama fan Andrew Sullivan (You remember him, I'm sure) at 10:29 p.m., Wednesday night, writing about Obama: "He choked. He lost. He may even have lost the election tonight."
Andrew Sullivan at 10:31 p.m., Wednesday night: "Obama looked tired, even bored; he kept looking down; he had no crisp statements of passion or argument; he wasn't there. He was entirely defensive, which may have been the strategy. But it was the wrong strategy. At the wrong moment. "The person with authority on that stage was Romney - offered it by one of the lamest moderators ever, and seized with relish. This was Romney the salesman. And my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. It's beyond depressing. But it's true." Link: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/live-blogging-the-first-presidential-debate-2012.html Wait for it, when the last debate comes about. the big o in our ass will be winning the night. big o MUST WIN, he is NOT through with us. BOHICA, the chicago way.
Watch for Obama to bring an iPad for his lectern next time.
And I hope someone will go back and count how many times Obama mumbled "y'know -" while on camera. As a rule, I don't watch these "debates" because it just seems like a huge waste of time. Last night, though, it was very interesting and I was impressed that Mitt finally got the point - he needs to be Mitt, act like he's large and in charge and hammer home the facts.
In fact, I felt embarrassed for President Obama - not in the sense that I was embarrassed for him personally, but that he is our current President and he's clearly not in control of anything - facts, himself, the system - nothing. Our current President is a putz. Zachriel to the contrary position that Obama was better?? Where is Zach?
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I don’t think I have to say who won tonights debate. Chris Matthew is about to cry. No need to get into the details….Maggie’s Farm has a great summary though. Romney slaps down Obama assertions throughout the debate. Romney: “Ev...
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