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Thursday, September 27. 2012Thursday morning links Coyote has fun in NYC on $20 Open Season on Salt: What the Science on Hypertension Really Shows - Shedding pounds may be a better way to promote cardiovascular health than avoiding the saltshaker The police blotter in Fort Kent, Maine Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting The Poor Get Poorer: 3 Character Traits That Undermine Prosperity Rescued 655-pound sea turtle released off Cape Cod Parents: How Much College Do You Owe Your Kids? Christians, The Second Amendment And The Duty Of Self Defense Paddling could soon be back in Marion County (FL) Schools Violent mobs erupt in Wisconsin after the publication of crude Vince Lombardi cartoons. Markets vs. central planners … learning the lessons all over again Democrat Senate Hopeful Warren Exposed As Complete Fraud $1.8 trillion shock: Obama regs cost 20-times estimate The Morning Plum: Mitt Romney’s conundrum deepens Gerson: Republicans are missing an opening with Hispanic voters Howard Fineman: Gee, It Sure Seems Like The Press Should Question and Criticize Obama Like a Regular Candidate At Some Point In His Career Kudlow: Mitt’s Take-Home-Pay Message How to Make 2012 into 1980 Comments
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Coyote has fun in NYC on $20: Maybe he's visited here and seen the pix.
Mr. Sippi is a carpenter AND a writer. He has a way with words; good thing words can't get pregnant. His wife would have at him. Re: Fineman
This is rich. During Clinton's second campaign, on Imus' radio show, Tom Brokaw wondered aloud if the Chinese Funny Money story was going to hurt Clinton. Imus replied that if people watched his news casts, they would never know about it since he never (or almost never) reported on it. The Brokaw does it again in a conversation with Charlie Rose just five days before the 2008 election when he mused that nobody really knows Obama, what he wants, or what he is all about. Now Fineman is playing the same game. He throws out a comment about how the press isn't really doing its job. Of course, he is part of the press and do you think he'll start asking Obama the tough questions the press hasn't been asking? Don't hold your breath... "Spiteful benefit cute to children of undocumented workers"???!!! How and why should they get any benefits. We are going bankrupt and those who continue to steal "benefits" that our citizens pay for are the cause. Throw their asses out, deport, incarcerate, whatever it takes. I am tired of paying ever increasing taxes so that Democrats can import new voters.
QUOTE: Gerson: Republicans are missing an opening with Hispanic voters Absolutely. There are a lot of conservative Hispanics, but every time Republicans being to get traction, they do something to alienate them as a group. Same with blacks and other minorities. You mean by not promising each group a bunch of freebies?
I'm no huge GOP fan, but promising free stuff to people has been the Dem way since at least LBJ. Probably FDR. Dr. Torch: You mean by not promising each group a bunch of freebies?
Thanks for providing the specifics that prove my point.
This isn't true at all.
To begin with, Republicans want immigration reform. They just don't want to open the doors wide and provide a general amnesty, etc. I can't say I agree with their perspective (I don't), but it's also true that Democrats are not much better. Don't forget, years ago during one of the previous amnesties, Teddy Kennedy set up preferences to Irish immigrants would be more easily made citizens. Bias is easily overlooked if you're a Democrat, it seems. The Voter ID laws and the stop-and-check laws are not anti-Hispanic. My niece lives in Phoenix and believes they are. However, the Hispanic man she's dating disagrees with her. For whatever reason, she continues to believe the press on these issues while her boyfriend laughs at her. It makes me wonder what the truth is - but I suspect her Hispanic boyfriend has a better handle on the situation. He supports these laws for a very specific reason, they will root out the cheaters and the criminals. I should note that the harsh rhetoric exists on both sides of the aisle. http://blog.al.com/wire/2011/12/lawmakers_cited_by_immigration.html http://rhwengr.newsvine.com/_news/2012/08/15/13294116-after-all-hes-a-democrat-so-he-cant-be-a-racist-rightright But, again, Democrats are allowed to be racist because they offer the free samples. Right? Bulldog: To begin with, Republicans want immigration reform. They just don't want to open the doors wide and provide a general amnesty, etc. I can't say I agree with their perspective (I don't)
Most Hispanics want a more open immigration policy, not all by any means, but most. Bulldog: The Voter ID laws and the stop-and-check laws are not anti-Hispanic. As more Hispanics lack drivers licenses and have fewer transportation options, Voter ID laws are a disproportionate burden on Hispanics (not the mention many other minorities, the elderly, and students).
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Zachriel
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2012-09-27 18:12
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Bulldog: I should note that the harsh rhetoric exists on both sides of the aisle.
Sure. Old habits die hard. But Democrats are seen as making an effort, while the Republicans are mainstreaming it.
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2012-09-27 18:26
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Opposition to immigration reform = refusal to endorse amnesty for illegals.
Opposition to DREAM act = refusal to support amnesty for illegals. Support of laws that are thought... (by whom? Do you write for the NY Times?) Support of Voter ID laws that are thought... (again, by whom? Who IS this mysterious unstated subject?) Harsh anti-immigrant = more leftist claptrap. Illegal immigration is NOT immigration. The GOP is strongly opposed to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. You can't see the difference between the two? No free man thinks of himself as a member of a group first. You are already wearing your chains as surely as though you were on a chain gang. In Russet Shadows: Opposition to immigration reform = refusal to endorse amnesty for illegals.
For all intents and purposes, the U.S. invited millions of people into the U.S. to help with agriculture, building, and other industries. A way should be found to regularize the process of immigration to insure national security and an available workforce. In Russet Shadows: Opposition to DREAM act = refusal to support amnesty for illegals. The DREAM Act only applies to those who immigrated as children. Most of these people are cultural Americans. And it's exactly that sort of rhetoric, calling children "illegals", that causes so many Hispanics to abandon the Republican Party. Nearly everyone in the Hispanic community has a family member or friend with an immigration problem. In Russet Shadows: Support of laws that are thought... By Hispanics. In Russet Shadows: Harsh anti-immigrant = more leftist claptrap. "We have to tone down the rhetoric, and we have to have a sincere, honest conversation with the voters." — Governor Susana Martinez. In Russet Shadows: Illegal immigration is NOT immigration. The GOP is strongly opposed to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. You can't see the difference between the two? Sure. If so, then the Republican Party would make every effort to open the U.S. to more immigration. But they haven't.
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Zachriel
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2012-09-27 18:23
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Zachriel, with all due respect, you are irritating.
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jma
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2012-09-28 20:36
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Far as I can tell, salt is a problem for some people with blood pressure troubles. Other people, like everyone in my family, can eat all the salt they want and never tick up a single point in pressure. We may have all kinds of other heart problems, but not that particular one.
The view that salt is bad for you is probably limited to the US. If you have high blood pressure in France they will prescribe more salt for you.
I am not saying that the US view is necessarily wrong. I am saying that the question is still quite open, and therefore it is much too soon for any authorities to start limiting salt in foods even if you believe that such laws "for our own good" are acceptable (and I do not). I went to the American Digest site where the "what working people ask retired people" joke was linked and I found this picture of Obama campaign manager, Jim Messina:
http://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/content_jim-messina1.jpg Man, I've seen this guy somewhere else, but where? Oh, yeah - give him a haircut and he's the long lost twin of Jared Lee Loughner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jared_Loughner_USMS.jpg I never thought I would say this, but your red standard looks goofier than mine.
Getting up in his grill with a short lens is distorting things a bit. Otherwise he looks pensive but thoughtful to me.
"What the Science on Hypertension Really Shows" is that the fact that lowering salt (actually, sodium) intake for those who already have high blood pressure is usually beneficial, the natural assumption that "too much" causes hypertension is questionable, if not actaully wrong.
And I note some info has been deleted from the linked out-take since I first saw it a couple of days ago. Yes, some people are at relatively high risk for indeed developing hypertension through being sensitive to it. Perhaps as many as 15million of US population over 300million. But we do not tell them so, nor allay scare-mongering for the other hundreds of millions. It is not "PC" to note that people who are, or are descended from, areas of NorthWestern Africa are most at risk. |
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