Maggie's Farm

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delusion
Yes, AVI, delusional fits perfectly, as you can see. Particularly bullets 3 &4.
Please, seriously, answer this...How can his plan, which calls for a balanced budget in 23 yrs withstand the next administration or hostile congress? How on earth can we expect it to be followed by anybody in govt, the way it operates these days, even if one were sympathetic to the stated goals?
I take no particular pride in being part of a "Proud Few", as you so condescendingly put it, but I, personally, am growing more disgusted with those who think everything will be fine, so long as "our guy" is elected. Things are not fine.
I'm from MA, as I stated, and Romney destroyed h/c here just as surely as I can assume you blame Obama for destroying it in the rest of the country. Is that a correct assumption? 'Cuz Romney and Ryan are pinning it on him, and the fact is Romney signed it into law, same as obama. Ownership. If your argument is that it isn't in fact ruined, some fairly quick research will produce a very wide range of evidence supporting the case. Most recently, cost controls are being implemented by a to-be-chosen panel, with as yet to-be- enumerated powers. Govts don't do that when things are working well, do they? Implement more control over a sector of the economy like that? Whether Romney intended for it to fail in such a fashion as does Obama is irrelevant.
And reasoning doesn't flow from feelings, just the opposite in fact. It s called outrage. After reviewing facts upon facts and delving quite deeply into things like economics, history, and a whole host of other subjects, yeah, I get outraged when the local village idiot says "Alls well! Remain calm!".
And is your implication that [i]I[\i] could somehow singlehandedly initiate a civil war? (BTW it wasn't a reference, it was a declarative statement. Also, using the word "cutesy" indicates a less than serious thinker. You've got to ditch that.) are you serious? I could be responsible for something like that, from my lowly position, so to speak, but Romney has no culpability in the h/c debacle in MA? Seems to me like your more prone to emotional lines of reasoning. As evidenced in your opening sentence.
And I won't even respond to your implication about village idiot any further than this. Just so you know you didn't slip one past me.

To Scullman, I agree obama has his foot on the gas and cant get us there fast enough for his liking, but simply being wrapped in a flag is no reason to vote for anybody. We've done it too long, all of us to one degree or another, and look where we are! I'll ask the same question of you, how can his plan work? Over 23 yrs? With all that's coming, my thoughts on a civil War notwithstanding. The financial situation alone simply won't permit it to happen.
And do you really not know where Obama is coming from? What makes him tick? It's not as simple as a chip on his shoulder. It's his mission in life. He was quite literally raised to hate us and all we stand for, you get that Im sure, but history tells me that this election won't be either legit or easy. People like this don't go quietly. And his supporters are legion with a zeal that most of us are lacking these days, and it will boil down to who wants it more. I'm not a religious man, but of the few things that I do find myself reflexively praying for, top of the list is to be wrong about this. I don't want my kids going through any of this but it's quite out if my my control.

Bruce,thanks for the courteous response.
Your point about this plan, indeed all our troubles being solved over time is true. It won't likely happen overnight. But my contention is twofold. I don't believe we have the kind of time required, based on a multitude of problems we face, but more to the point of Ryan's plan, how can it work, over 23 years, given that each successive admin will have their own visiosn even if they are sympathetic to goals we share. And given that a D admin will completely discard the plan, what good will this do? Obamas amnesty decree may or may not stand, but Romney won't touch it and will likely endorsed it to try to swipe that demographic.
I don't want to be antagonistic, but how do you envision this plan working?

Thanks for the response.
I'm not normally a cynic or overly pessimistic, but on this issue, I'd have to say we're just about done for. The deck is stacked against us.

"capice"?
"Enough already."?
Don't talk down to me. If you want to do the insane thing and try for a different result, then piss on you, fool! People like you don't go down kicking and screaming, you get led to slaughter or servitude.
Capisce?

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Bartles & James

Dont start them!?!

Your very screen name says it all.
Give yourself a promotion.