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Bird Dog: Obama the Reactionary
Heh. Satire, right?
1. The Falklands? The very first point is U.S. neutrality on the Falklands?
2. The 1967 borders do not resemble a "slithery gerrymandered district in Georgia". Also, they are only the starting point of negotiations, and any agreement is expected to include contiguous settlements.
3. While Obama bowed, Bush held hands.
4. Worst since Carter? Even leaving aside the possibility that Bush could have prevented 9/11, Bush never brought the perpetrator to justice, the Iraq War was an unnecessary war, a debacle for the U.S. and resulted in the complete social breakdown and murderous period for the Iraqi people; while the financial meltdown at the end of the Bush Administration was the worst since the Great Depression.
5. Barefoot dancing in the White House? Seriously!?
"the Iraq War was an unnecessary war, a debacle for the U.S. and resulted in the complete social breakdown and murderous period for the Iraqi people"
Are you referring to the Iraqi citizens who managed to survive the gruesome torture chambers of Saddam's barbaric sons or the ones who died in the mechanical slicing machines that Uday and Qusay Hussein used to cut prisoners up into bite sized chunks just for the fun of it?
You, sir, are contemptible.
Agent Cooper: Are you referring to the Iraqi citizens who managed to survive the gruesome torture chambers of Saddam's barbaric sons or the ones who died in the mechanical slicing machines that Uday and Qusay Hussein used to cut prisoners up into bite sized chunks just for the fun of it?
No. We're referring to the hundreds of thousands killed, injured or made refugees under the U.S. occupation.
Your sympathy for the Iraqis is morally misplaced. Under the leadership of Saddam Hussein, Iraq invaded a neighboring country, Kuwait. It was driven off in the first Gulf War during the G. H. W. Administration, but to my mind was not punished enough for its heinous act of aggression. The campaign started by the first President Bush was finished by G. W. Bush in the second Gulf War. Regardless of the official justification that was given for the second Gulf War, it was in my mind a righteous and appropriate cause to depose Saddam Hussein for the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. For the actions of their government, the Iraqi people are alone to blame for whatever pain and suffering they endured either during the second Gulf War or under the occupation of their country that followed. I have no more sympathy for the Iraqis who suffered or died in the Gulf Wars than I have for the Germans and Japanese citizens who suffered similar fates in the course and aftermath of the World War that both their nations started.
Ah, the hundreds of thousands myth. References please, so we can set you straight on the facts.
A second 9/11 would've promised a third, fourth, an endless series. The second 9/11 hung over the West like a sword of Damocles. No way to stop the terrorists on our end --they had to be stopped at their end. This could only be done by placing American armies only a sand line away from the terrormaster lairs --and then letting the regimes who could stop them, do so, in fear of their own regime's lives.
And it worked, Zach. No matter what ungratefulness you exhibit and /or words you throw out to the contrary.
The financial meltdown went off under GWB --as planned. Have you ever looked at the thing? I have. I'm sort of an expert, as a matter of fact. The idea was to bring Obama in with an enabling crisis on his hands --and it went off as planned. No, it wasn't a movie-script conspiracy --it was a far more sophisticated laying of grounds for human nature to nudged its own self this way or that. Timing was achieved by sudden sharp-focus attacks on critical nodes thru the markets --by hidden proprietorship 'dark pools' --secrecy enabled by Clinton era legislation (much of it written by Obama's current chairman of the commodity futures trading commission) and captured regulatory agency rule changes (think SEC, uptick rule, leverage limit rule, mark-to-model rule, other fine old reforms from the depression era, all changed mysteriously, for weak reasons given, outside the normal long process of such, mostly in the year 2007, obviously in hindsight preparing the naked-short bank panic of September 2008).
Backgrounds, bank reg changes under Clinton had allowed a handful of superstar bankers colluding with powerful committee chairmen in DC to open depositor's insured money to be used for proprietary risk-taking (leading to intentional pumping up of a housing bubble) instead of being held to support lending (as since the mid 1930s) and thereby forcing institutional risk-taking to be done with money raised on the markets for the purpose.
The bank acts of late Clinton changed that, and allowed the big Democrats in banking to bet against and with the middle class savings that the Dem theoreticians realized were the national bulwark against socialism. The cast of characters could do well by doing good, in that milieu, and so did.
Those who led this financial subversion are almost exclusively Democrats, and on record as longtime, lifetime supporters of progressive causes and candidates. There's the smidgen of GOP there, too, but far fewer than even the 80/20 rule would default design --moby types here and there --William Donaldson, Mark Foley, others, all characters with absolutely no philosophical reasons to be in the conservative camps --the GOP of the time --the one the tea party is enveloping and subsuming --is well known to have been toothless defenders of the right, infiltrated and loaded up with the suborned.
The info is out there. Your charges, by ignoring that info, become casual, lazy, and worthless, Zach.
buddy larsen: A second 9/11 would've promised a third, fourth, an endless series. The second 9/11 hung over the West like a sword of Damocles. No way to stop the terrorists on our end --they had to be stopped at their end. This could only be done by placing American armies only a sand line away from the terrormaster lairs --and then letting the regimes who could stop them, do so, in fear of their own regime's lives.
Um, Iraq was not involved with 9/11.
"The truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!"
...and this new papoose, son of Bear Growls and Bluebird Singing, shall be called Soaring Eagle!
(as gathered tribesfolk whistle and cheer, a young teenager, brow furrowed with constant angst, steps forward)
... (ahem) Please O Great wise chief, can you tell me, how is that you choose these names that so guide our lives and describe our spirits?
Well, young one, it is very simple. I look around me, when i hear the baby's first cry, and what it is that I see in nature, that is the baby's new name. But tell me, Dog Licking His Ass, why are you so interested?
Um, Iraq was not involved with 9/11.
But tell me, Oh Great Omniscient Eye, how is it you can still be digging up such hoary old chestnuts that have been so thoroughly completely and professionally debunked and reburied by acclamation so many jillions of times?
Um, well, must have hobby, me no can lickum own ass ALL day you know. Contortion in time makum brain sloppy like buffalo turd in thunderstorm. (Psst) me tell you heap big secret --me thinkum maybe that already happen to me, maybe.
(Pssst backatchez) I like totally agree, O Great Geosynchronous 33 degrees 20 minutes North by 44 degrees 26 minutes East All-Seeing 24/7/365x20 All-Knowing Perpetually Perfectly Interpreting Orbiting Eye Chief.
Um, you welcome, Paleface. Nice scalp you got there. It lookum good in my mailbox the first and fifteenth every Moon.
Yep --that's kinda what i thought.
buddy larsen: But tell me, Oh Great Omniscient Eye, how is it you can still be digging up such hoary old chestnuts that have been so thoroughly completely and professionally debunked and reburied by acclamation so many jillions of times?
Bush: No Iraq link to 9/11 found.
start here, Zach --note the date. Note the para third from bottom. Note the final sentence in that para.
After you digest this, if you are able to digest this, if you are able to tell the truth about that, then i have 3,674,293 more articles for you to read.
buddy larsen: Note the final sentence in that para.
Sorry, but Mylroie's conspiracy theory was debunked shortly after 9-11 by the Bush Administration, and as confirmed by the 9-11 Commission Report.