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Wednesday, November 9. 2011Election 2012: Rochester, MI debate tonight
As I see it, there are a three aspects to these political debates that, in general, the pundits out there either don't get, or refuse to acknowledge because it would devalue their article. Or, in some cases, negate the need for the article altogether. The first is not recognizing that debates have procedures, no matter what the topic or venue. For example, if an opponent has used up his allotted time barking at you and continues to do so, the proper procedure is to address the moderator, not get into a cat fight with the asswipe breaking the rules, thereby breaking them yourself. Here's Charles Krauthammer after the last debate, when Perry went bananas on poor Romney's ass:
That is precisely incorrect, and I saw this evaluation a lot after the debate. There are protocols in place for almost any endeavor where people get together, be it school board meetings, town hall meetings, the Rotary Club, the local kids' treehouse, you name it, and political debates are no different. We tend to throw the words 'moron' and 'imbecile' around a lot in the blogosphere, but I believe the correct word in this case is ignoramus. And then there's this from candidate Jon Huntsman, who sat out the debate:
Sounds mighty powerful and caring and candidate-y, doesn't it? Well, Jon, here's the thing: The candidates don't get to pick the topics! I've seen the whiny "But they're not talking about the important stuff!" all over the place, including the comments here. Either these people have no business behind a keyboard, or they're purposefully glossing over the obvious so they'll have something to bitch about. As the renown TigerHawk says, can you think of a third alternative? (As a small side note, I often use Tige's great question when reading an AGW article. I think at the time, either this moron actually believes this tripe, or he's lying through his teeth for a greater purpose, most likely his wallet. Can you think of a third alternative?) And the worst of all is the dispiriting tenor of the bloggers. "Oh, Crap, Another Debate" blares Hot Air. "What A Snoozer!" screams PJ Media. It's been getting worse and worse as the debates roll by. This will sound absolutely ludicrous, but I'm the only blogger I see who's remaining excited about them and trying to keep our collective spirits up. Yes, I excoriate the candidates mercilessly at times, but I'm also quick to pass along kudos when I feel they're deserved. I crack jokes, I point out that Michele looks particularly hot tonight, I keep us in tune with the audience's reactions, like who got the first big applause, who got the biggest applause, and which candidate is the only one to get soundly booed so far (I wouldn't want to mention any names, but his initials are R.O.N. P.A.U.L.), all in the hopes of inspiring people to stay involved and upbeat. Everybody else acts like watching and reporting on them is a chore. The point is, with people being distracted by Thanksgiving and Xmas, the next few months are going to fly by and the primary elections will be upon us. After four months of steadily-increasing ennui, do the bloggers expect everyone to suddenly catch fire at the last minute just because they tell them to, or will the momentum that builds from apathy be too strong? And, will it be too late? As for tonight's debate, the subject is economics. Stand by for a bunch of complaints tomorrow from various pundits and commenters whining, "But they didn't talk about the important stuff!"
Seriously, is it possible for them to be any clearer? Game time is 8 pm EST, CNBC. The assholes aren't streaming it, so I'll miss it. As a small side note, I've been pushing for Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin for the V.P. slot since the beginning. Add this to the reasons why. Comments
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Remember the Reagan moment when he said, with anger in his voice, I paid for this microphone? Remember how, very politely, he took control of a situation, topic and turned it to his advantage? Remember when men were masculine and not these gutless, emasculated creatures?
J -
Well, that toughness in Reagan is what a lot of people saw in Perry -- until he opened his fat mouth about Social Security and scared every senior citizen in the country half to death. And, just to pick a word, he came across as positively bitchy when he attacked Romney in that last debate, but if the shoe had been on the other foot, we might very well have seen a Reagan moment come from the tough Texan. And, as I mentioned after the second or third debate, for the very first -- and last -- time, Santorum got angry about something, and the guy was positively breathin' fire. So I'd say that toughness is still there, and if there's a heavier metrosexual veneer over the candidates today, well, who ya gonna blame, the candidates or the society that sets the rules? I think I am becoming a Newtnik at the moment. Too bad he lacks a warm, engaging personality - or persona - on TV.
If he could be less wonk, and more positively inspiring, it would work better. With regard to morons and tripe, I'll give you two of my favorite sayings:
"It's very hard to distinguish between stupidity and venality, since the end results so closely resemble each other." "Never attribute to conspiracy what can be accounted for by stupidity." BW(1) - I like that second one. I can't remember the dude's name, but he's "the guy who named the blogosphere". He read one of my 'Morning Meeting at MSM Headquarters' posts, where I outline the dark, devious, conspiratorial workings of the left wing, linked to it on his own site and then added:
They're not that smart. Alas, that's probably true. In a way, it'd be nicer to know that we fell into a well-planned trap, rather than just being dumb naturally, like Perry's remarks on Social Security or Cain not being ready for a massive attack from the MSM. Live and learn, boys, live and learn. "Oh, Crap, Another Debate"
But...but...but... Why? Why a debate that you yourself admit isn't a debate because the candidates don't get to pick the questions or subjects? Why watch the endless droning, semi-attacks, false grins and handshakes - why, the endless "if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?" questions. There are about 60 days to go to the beginning of the primary season which will last about two months before we have a nominee. And then we have to listen for a year do argument and counter argument. And this was started halfway through this national election cycle. And we will be nominating somebody who we still don't know anything about. It's too much. All fluff and bluster - no substance. Thank goodness you finally showed up! In all honesty, it just doesn't feel like a pre-debate post until Tom The Site Curmedgeon™ comes along spouting "Who cares!?"
I can tell that tradition is everything with you. Keep up the good work, Doc I proudly claim the Title of Official Maggie's Farm Site Curmudgeon.
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