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Sunday, September 4. 2011

Oldest Advanced Civilization

 According to this site:


In 1994, in southeastern Turkey, a Kurdish shepherd discovered the remains of one of the most astonishing archeological finds of our times. Göbekli Tepe

19-foot columns expertly carved out of stone, decorated with sculpted animals that do not and may never have lived in the region have baffled the German archeological team who came to unearth this spectacular find. The scientists estimate that the structures at this site are between 11,000 and 12,000 years old.

This would be 8,000 years before Stonehenge and the Egyptian pyramids were built!


 



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Posted by Bruce Kesler in History, Our Essays at 22:00 | Comments (8) | Trackbacks (0)

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Why do are the people on the history channel special seem to work on Atlantis and other conspiracy theory type histories? Make you wonder about all this. They are always looking for some earlier golden age.
#1 grant1863 on 2011-09-05 01:23 (Reply)
why? Because it sells. They're a commercial operation, and there's money in such things, more money than in reporting plain scientific facts (which many people can't understand and will find exceedingly boring).

Tbh, apart from trying to link it to biblical events I found this fragment to be quite good, way above the normal "standard" for History Channel as it's been for several years now (used to be History was about history, but they're not more about political correctness, conspiracy theories, and rehashing old Discovery Channel (their parent organisation) shows like Ice Road Truckers).

And despite all that they're still one of the best channels on cable :(
#1.1 J.T. Wenting on 2011-09-05 03:03 (Reply)
Obviously made by ancient aliens worshiping ghosts haunting Bigfoot of the Chupacabras.
#2 PacRim Jim (Link) on 2011-09-05 02:22 (Reply)
I understand from my archaeologist friends that these were ancient "shovel-ready" stimulus projects, to be repeatedly built and buried, and sold to the populace as "Money for Megaliths."

Although the rulers and high priests promised that the people eventually would enjoy great prosperity from these stimulus projects, back then they apparently worked then as well as they do now. This can be inferred from the evidence that building such megaliths led the people to completely ignore any actual productive activities such as agriculture or manufacturing.

The end of the civilization was inevitable, especially when combined with rising sea levels caused by global warming.
#3 Jim on 2011-09-05 02:37 (Reply)
According to the Smithsonian.com article on this site, it has made some archaeologists wonder whether we got things backward. Did people gather first to cultivate crops and domesticate animals, and then start to build temples? Or did hunter-gatherers build temples/tombs, and then develop more settled food-production habits to support the need for larger and longer-term gatherings of clans at sacred sites?
#4 Texan99 (Link) on 2011-09-05 10:06 (Reply)
It was a resort complex for proto-Hebrews. A Turkish version of the catskills.
#5 Ben David on 2011-09-05 14:04 (Reply)
History is currently taught as a story of ignorant brutes gleaning a few facts about the world and passing on the ensuing improvements to their kids. Repeat as necessary.

But if Adam and Eve existed and talked to God, they were almost certainly smarter than I am.

What if we started as geniuses who had almost no steel tools or computer technology and gradually lost our intelligence as the inevitable thugs grabbed power (like the unions and politicians are doing now) and forbid any non-elite to be educated?

It would explain this. Of course, if the dating of this site is off, that would explain a lot, too.
#6 Dangerous Dean on 2011-09-05 16:05 (Reply)
SE Turkey? A hop, skip, and a jump from the upper Tigris and Euphrates, eh? Quelle surprise.
#7 Assistant VIllage Idiot (Link) on 2011-09-05 22:31 (Reply)

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