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I think the debt ceiling debate this year has done for future debt ceiling thresholds what the Bork nomination did for judicial politics in 1987—changed the political rules of the game forever.
If the moral arc of the universe truly bent toward justice, Theodore Parker's line wouldn't be inscribed in the Martin Luther King monument and ascribed to King as one of his most famous sayings.
I was wondering if "Sunny" was being serious - seems like something an air head liberal would say. Good thing I looked up her web site because I was about to say something really cruel about "the special powers of math" comment. :>)
My problems with Rick Perry grow by the day, and have little to do with the MSM (though at some point they will jump on some of the stories I'm hearing).
Apparently, he's only a shade worse than Clinton in his "proclivities", and his marital problems are kept fairly quiet, but are well known in Texas.
Typically, these are personal issues that I have little care for - but given his opening salvos in this campaign, they have ALOT to do with his sincerity.
At some point, he's going to have a "bimbo eruption" and things are going to go off the rails. But for now, he's done a good job of keeping things on an even keel. I'm curious to see how well he keeps it under control.
I was clued into this by a Libertarian who took the low road and was digging up dirt on Perry. I thought this guy was a jerk, but my friends in Texas (who like Perry) all have basically said the same thing. They know he's a dirtbag, but he's "their" dirtbag. I'm not sure that will fly on the national scene.
Sad to hear that. I haven't heard a lot from him, but I've pretty much liked where he's coming from so far. I also like that he has some good executive experience (as much as I like Cain and liked Forbes, running a company and a country are not the same thing - even if you want to run the latter like the former).
It will get a lot more interesting for everybody, I'm sure.
The squirrel brain who is pushing this is none other than Rob Morrow - a self-proclaimed CIA agent who was involved in the Kennedy Assassination and whose incredible exploits of daring do would make a great science fiction novel. Alex Jones is in here somewhere too pushing Rob Morrow as a "journalist". Morrow gets away with this crap because all of the people he supposedly "ran" as an agent or worked with or knew are dead - no way to check.
I know, Tom - he's an asshole. But he made several allegations which I thought were interesting - not the least of which was that he is a visitor to strip clubs, and he sees Rick Perry at them frequently.
I thought this was intriguing, so I contacted friends of mine down in Texas and, yes, they said they were aware of Perry's "proclivities", in spite of his supposedly very clean image.
I worry when I hear this NOW, because if it is true (and I can appreciate that it may not be), you can be sure the MSM is pushing him now in order to drop the bomb later. Having this on Perry is perfect for Obama - push Perry, get him nominated, then undermine him in the general election.
Can't tell me that there isn't some kind of thought pattern like this going through the mind of EVERY MSM editor in NYC.
Cell phone camera / video tech has been more than good enough to capture this for at least 5 years... and you can't tell me no one would have managed to get photos by now.
Pictures (independently analyzed for Photoshop) or it didn't happen.
Can't agree with you there.
Back when I was younger and strip joints were a part of my repertoire, I saw plenty of notable personalities. Nobody in the joint would take a picture for a variety of reasons:
1. entourage would beat the crap out of you, or a bouncer
2. you wouldn't want people to know you were there
3. general difficulty of getting a decent, recognizable shot in a place like that.
More likely, a picture of him entering or leaving would suffice. But usually people in a position like his has stopped actually going while in office, and has the goods brought to him (like Clinton).
FYI: I'm not a big fan of Perry either - he just grates on me from a personal perspective.
Just because I don't like him, doesn't mean that this kind of unfair attack is valid. Unless and until factual verifiable reports of his "proclivities" surface, it's all rumor and innuendo.
Which is why I took Morrow's initial attempts to "find hotties who slept with Rick Perry" as just a low grade maneuver not even worthy of the MSM.
But he CLAIMS personal knowledge, and friends of mine say they're familiar with this kind of behavior on Perry's part, but that it doesn't bother them in the least. In reality, it doesn't bother me, either.
What bothers me is how it could be played, if true, in a general election. It's a potential disaster. Which is why my concerns about him grow by the day.
He's following a "Sarah Palinesque" approach to the election - one in which he airs his views for all to see (several of which I agree with), but in a manner that makes agreeing with them unpalatable.
Add to that a potential for a "bimbo eruption" and the possibility of him being a national candidate is out the window.
I met somebody once who CLAIMED to be a member of the Jovian Secret Service sent here to Earth to protect the Ambassador from Alpha Centauri who was consulting with the United Nations about joining the Galactic Confederation. Had an ID card, a power ring which provided super powers and more antennas on his motor scooter than a Russian trawler. I don't KNOW for a fact that he wasn't.
I've met people who CLAIM to have been victims of alien abduction. I can't say for sure they weren't.
I've met fellow sportsmen who CLAIM that they had a sure fire world record fish, but they lost it right at the boat. I know their lying because I've said the same thing (that whole McManus "fibrication" thing).
I met Mel Fisher once who CLAIMED that he knew where the Spanish treasure galleons Nuestra Senora de Atocha and the Santa Margarita were. Turns out he did know where they were more's the pity because I didn't invest in his venture (dammit!!).
Heck you could CLAIM that Ron Paul has seen more naked women than a bouncer at a strip club and it would be absolutely true.
Anybody can CLAIM anything. Morrow has a history here - he's a flipping liar, a fraud and a total loser. This falls into the Dan Rather/Mary Mapes "Fake but true" territory.
Tom my friend... I've been living here in Texas for forty years, and during those years I've been following our political fortunes fairly closely. I have heard little or nothing of any creditable rumors about Rick Perry's love life bandied about during his three terms as governor. Quite the reverse. He's still married to his first sweetheart and does not ponce around chasing women like John Edwards.
Texas politicians are pretty much bare-knuckled fighters, but Perry has avoided dirty tricks and dirty cracks in his battles for election. This last time, he had one opponent who was particularly vulnerable and ripe for ridicule-- an immigrant named Farouk Shami, called 'the hair care millionaire', who made his millions in the hair treatment business with chemicals and treatments from the Mid East. Perry didn't take the easy shots but kept his comments fair on the decency scale.
Of course I can't know everything being bandied about. But that's the view from here.
To be fair, Marianne, there wasn't much talk about Edwards poncing around - much was made of his "great" relationship with Elizabeth - during his campaign. It was only later that the truth broke. It took quite a while for even his most ardent supporters to recognize the truth.
My cousin worked on Gary Hart's campaign. I saw him shortly after the Donna Rice incident, and asked him what it was like to deal with all that stuff. He shook his head and admitted "I only started to believe it's real recently. He just didn't SEEM like that kind of person."
Too be fair, Rick, you've given us rumors, and when challenged, you've basically said "Yah, well, sometimes these things aren't obvious but are still true, so there."
I'm not saying you're wrong, but your evidence is virtually nil.
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Regarding the lawyers against Perry. The fact that a lawyer and his wife have $9M to blow on political contributions is all I need to know. Time to bring this corrupt parasitic scam to an end post haste.
The Perry stuff is new to me --and i'm a native son, live just outside Austin, and watch politics --and talk to people who watch politics --like a hawk.
Only since he declared for prez, and won a few polls, has this tsunami of brand-spanking new scandal suddenly emerged.
The remark about the cell cameras --it's true, there'd be pictures. Notwithstanding it is possible to imagine there wouldn't be, that imagining requires quite a stretch.
Plus, Rick Perry is not that kinda guy. He just isn't. Perry's people --rich and poor and every hue --don't 'do' the virtual image thing, where a pol can have a dual life. He'd get run out of town in a big hurry if he did --and Perry has won every time he has run.
...which reminds, Perry re-populated the 'valley' (the Mexico border counties) with MDs --as well as some west Texas counties with the lowest population density in the solar system --by screwing down on the medical tort 'jackpot jury' practice --and the doctors will always love him for it, just as much as the ambulance-chaser lawyers (that fraction of the legal profession) --will hate him.
I haven't heard enough to make up my mind - it's way too early for me to do that - but I thought I'd do a little inventory of positions from Perry (little being the operative word).
1. for tort reform and trial lawyers hate him (I like this a lot!).
2. believes in the 10th Amendment enough to say that secession is a valid course for a state (I like this, too).
3. says O spends too much money (that's an easy one).
4. Said that if the Fed played with the money supply for political reasons, it would be bordering on treason (that was my understanding though the commentary I've heard seems to leave that out - I don't disagree with that).
5. Tom here said he made an inappropriate statement about O's support by the troops. I trust his characterization, but didn't hear it. (I prefer that he hadn't said it, but it sounds like it was a statement of fact).
6. Rick here has reason to think that he's been skipping out on his wife. (sad if true. It depends on how he handles it, if it is old or new news, etc. It's not a deal killer for me - it would be interesting to see the Demoncrats make a deal about it after Clinton).
Like I said, pretty slim inventory, but overall, I'm inclined to like him. Time will tell.
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