We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Guys have to be bold enough to hit on girls that charm them. Bars are the worst places to do that, but there is no best place. Elevators? Well, I dunno, but the location is not the point. If guys wait for gals to do it, they might wait forever, and the human species ends.
If a gal doesn't want to be approached, she can wear a wedding ring, or a button that says "F-off." Or a facial expression that says the same thing. Don't try to look Lesbian - some guys will view that as a challenge unless you are butch and fat.
It could be a code word for sex, I don't know, but I do know he ASKED, she said NO, and that was the end of it. Well it was till she told the world how it creeps her out that a man might find her attractive (he seems to claim intellectually - maybe sexually). For someone who claims to live by evidenced based thinking, she surely let her emotions control her.
She sounds like just another feminazi.
I couldn't read any further to find out the story about Dawkins. He almost sounds like the photo-opposite of her only creepier.
I was out with a lovely lass and I offered to pick up the tab for dinner. As I was looking over the bill she took a wallet out of her purse and asked what I wanted from her. I smiled and said, "Just the tip, please." She threw a glass of water at me and stormed out of the restaurant. Feminism is hard.
Rebecca Watson is no Cindy Crawford or Heidi Klum. She should treasure any proposition she gets no matter the location or time of day...and her elevator suitor should get his eyesight checked. Rebecca is someone I'd never "objectify" under any circumstance, I can promise her that. The gorgeous flaming redhead Amy Alkon is another matter entirely. Red hair is a turn on for any man.
Jephnol dear ... Present day feminism is very strange indeed. A glass of water? Really? She sounds certifiable. Now a glass of champagne thrown at you would prove for all time that she's nutty as a fruitcake. And not worth being treated to dinner.
I spent about half of 2009 working in Japan. Before I went over there, I was advised that an invite to a karaoke bar from a member of the opposite sex was generally regarded as a precursor to an invitation to a "love hotel," a themed establishment that offers rooms for a "rest" period of two or four hours.
(Mind you at my age ten minutes would get the job done.)
I was further advised that Japanese women are becoming more and more Westernized in their willingness to invite men along on these kinds of affairs.
I made sure to talk about my own dear Mrs. Animal a lot.
Hilarious, Enjoyed the comments. There are lines between what just causes eye rolls and let's move on. When I was about 40-ish I helped out at a charity thing, and had my butt touched more than once. Now not that it should be considered acceptable practice, but I simply turned, smiled and told them to keep their hands to themselves---and maybe with a wink.
They blushed, looked a little embarrassed and kept their hands to themselves. They got the point, and their dignity was salvaged with minimum damage.
And on the other hand, at my age as the Mother of three kids, I was rather flattered they thought it was still attractive enough to try and cop a feel.
There was a tiny little anecdote hidden in that event: a woman gives a public speech about how much she dislikes being hit on at conference, and right afterwards a fellow conference-goer exasperates her by hitting on her. Gosh, people are oblivious, no one has manners any more, and so on. Thirty seconds, move on. No need for Amnesty International to get involved.
One of the commenters linked to this apropos cartoon: http://www.xkcd.com/642/
Another commentor posed the sensible suggestion that we establish women-only elevators.
Another mentioned an old Seinfeld episode in which a very attractive woman asks Jerry's clueless friend George to her hotel room for coffee, and he replies that he doesn't drink coffee at night. It's like the Thurber cartoon with a fellow addressing his female friend, who is seated in the lobby: "You wait here, and I'll bring the etchings down."