We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Speaking from my standpoint, I first laughed at Roger's comment because at times I've asked myself how many mirrors I've broken. There is an "elitism" with officials who should be respected for their authority that is way out of hand. It covers many areas of life my gripe is towards the elderly. The Good Book warns us not to be deceived but it has and does happen rampantly. Those fooling are getting away with it far longer than four years. Nothing against you Roger as this is the first I've ever heard your quote.
Marianne, God Bless You. How many times in a week do we hear or say this about Karma!? Although I LOVE my Jesus with all my heart, I occasionally slip a look at a horoscope for fun and have flirted with the Karma comment until at times I have felt that it sure has come around on folks I care deeply for more than anyone else, I've said that about. I think though that all of us that had to endure have HOPE that we would see justice in our lifetime.
As with Big Al----I am the same. Even though I'm with Marianne, most often Revelations 20:11-- will bring redemption to all infilcted upon.
I just recently heard this said, "You can forgive someone but it doesn't mean you have to take down the fence." For some this may seem the most impossible thing to do with good reason. At times I learned that we then must somehow LAY IT AT BOTTOM OF THE CROSS.
There is a headline in the news (and never would we want anyone to suffer as those headlines spell out, again) but I PRAY for anyone one who wants to take vengeance on their own; they would come to REALLY KNOW that no matter what they feel they could do to get that-----GOD DOES IT BETTER period.
And I know all of you know that...Not a short comment but I hope worthy. Make a joyful weekend.
Interesting passage, since you bring it up, Life of Riley:
Revelation 20:11-15
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.
13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.
14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
It looks to me like only the "dead" are judged according to their works. If it were otherwise, who could stand? Not me, that's for sure. So I hope to be counted among the living, even now.
And as a side note, I've often thought about the vengeance thing. If someone ever hurt my daughter, in any serious way, I don't know how I could resist the urge to inflict instant karma upon them.
Big Al, As it is.
And...who (humanly) could not understand all our sidenotes.
So.....I suppose....we come back around to Joy's QQQ.
A newer and better translation of the passage is: 'Do not take revenge, dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath. For it is written, "Vengeance belongs to me. I will pay them back, declares the Lord." Romans 12:19