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Thursday, January 13. 2011

Ban ROTC from the Ivies!

From American Spectator:

Okay, folks. Listen up. There are thousands of great colleges around the nation at which you can learn any skill or profession you choose. And in none of those colleges will you be so indoctrinated in contempt for your nation, its history and values as you will be in the Ivies. Give yourself a boost in life: for all the supposed benefits you'd get in an Ivy League school, you'll learn more and gain a more realistic view of your nation and the world if you attend a college that's not among the Ivies. Learn elsewhere, and graduate without having your nose so stuck in the air that you believe America isn't a force for good in the world. And trust me, guys: chicks dig the uniform, regardless of which college you graduated from.

Read the whole thing. Irony aside, I think we should have ROTC everywhere. In my view, there are four noble (or potentially noble) professions: Medicine, Law, Clergy, and Miltary. The rest of us like me are just regular Citizens - a highly noble thing in itself in America.

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It just ain't that hard to enlist, Junkie.

Most towns have an enlistment store front.

USMC's still lookin' fer a few good men, even gay men.

Capiche?

#1 Leag on 2011-01-13 15:54 (Reply)

The Ivies and other elitist schools should NOT be allowed to have ROTC, and the graduates of those schools should NOT be allowed to enlist in any of the services. I would also exclude them from the Foreign Service.

In general, graduates of the elitist schools should be held up to public ridicule.

#2 bob sykes on 2011-01-13 16:14 (Reply)

better yet, shoot anyone who doesn't wash out of the Ivies because of a bad stomach after the first day of lectures.

It'd seriously strengthen the gene pool.

#2.1 J.T. Wenting on 2011-01-14 00:10 (Reply)

Law a noble profession? Are you freaking kidding me?

The scum bag blood-sucking lawyers, some of whom morph into an even worse thing, politicians, deserve only ridicule and total contempt.

#3 GaryS on 2011-01-13 16:33 (Reply)

he means law enforcement, ie civil service.

#3.1 anon on 2011-02-18 22:14 (Reply)

Until they were unionized by some of the most predatory and grasping villains ever seen, teaching was a noble profession.

#4 Claritas on 2011-01-13 16:41 (Reply)

The difference between elites in different eras is this: The elites of the WW I and WW II eras served without question. They assumed it was their duty, their noblesse oblige in exchange for their high born positions, wealth, and achievements.

Although I am no fan of the Kennedys, one must acknowledge that Ol' Joe's sons, Joe, Jr., and Jack, served willingly, no draft dodging for them. They felt a duty to serve. And it cost Joe Jr his life, and very nearly JFK his. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK walked the talk.

Today's elites seem to think that they have some sort of divine right to rule and need not prove their leadership, that the country owes them and not the other way around. After all, "...we went to the best colleges and universities, didn't we?" No wonder there is an incipient rebellion against their rule.

#5 greenmtnpunter on 2011-01-13 16:56 (Reply)

Law, Medicine, Clergy, attempt to alleviate human suffering. That's what makes them noble? Military people put their life on the line, to protect our country and its citizens.

Sorry, I would only put military as noble. As for the others, I would place them no higher than engineers.

#6 John A. Fleming on 2011-01-13 17:04 (Reply)

There isn't any nobility in taking payment for performing a task. That includes doctors, lawyers, clergy or military.

Synonyms for noble include: aristocratic, blue-blooded, grand, great, highborn, highbred, patrician, silk-stocking, upper-class, upper-crust, wellborn.

Nobility isn't imparted by a profession or social status.

#7 Tom Francis on 2011-01-13 20:03 (Reply)

Mr. Fleming,

Really, lawyers and engineers about equal?

Apparently you don't know the right engineers.

#8 Dr. Dave on 2011-01-13 21:03 (Reply)

Well, I am trying to be respectful. I didn't say that I wouldn't put them lower than engineers. Let me just say this: engineers (and their financing and business management partners) create wealth. The other three are supporters of that wealth creation.

As our host as said before, everybody's a mix. Find the good.

#8.1 John A. Fleming on 2011-01-14 13:22 (Reply)

As an engineer, I still have to agree with Mr. Fleming. My job/profession is to improve the lot of humanity by making things better/cheaper/faster/more efficient. Engineers used to be equated, professionally, with doctors and lawyers, but that seems to have faded away over time, with society treating us as no more than highly-educated technicians.

A military professional gets paid very little (in comparison to civilians), and in a combat assignment is putting their life between their loved ones and country, and the people who would deprive us of our liberties and our lives. Some of them will pay the ultimate price for their dedication to duty and honor.

#9 Blackwing1 on 2011-01-14 12:32 (Reply)

Although I am no fan of the Kennedys, one must acknowledge that Ol' Joe's sons, Joe, Jr., and Jack, served willingly, no draft dodging for them. They felt a duty to serve. And it cost Joe Jr his life, and very nearly JFK his. "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." JFK walked the talk.

But now when I talk to the parents of my Scout Troop about their sons' alternatives and mention the military, about half of them say something along the lines of "Our kind of people don't do that." I do have one Eagle Scout to my credit that can now place ", USMC" after his name, though.

In general, graduates of the elitist schools should be held up to public ridicule.

Not all of the elite schools are Ivies or their moral equivalent. My alma mater is MIT. Their academic standing bows to no school on the planet, and their ROTC batallion has never been halted and it's also where Harvard's students (among other schools) go if they want the program.

And MIT won't fill your kid's head full of mush. Sure, you'll hear some leftist ranting. But you don't have to parrot it back to a professor to graduate. You also learn that it doesn't matter if 20 black lesbian engineers worked on that bridge - if the design is wrong or the steel doesn't meet spec, it'll fall down. Engineering and science are pretty good places to learn that there ARE absolute truths.

#10 RonF on 2011-01-14 16:44 (Reply)

The Ivies and the upper tier Jesuit institutions (e.g. Georgetown) should not re-instate ROTC. (Princeton already has ROTC and should not drop it.)
These institutions quite consiously produce America's ruling class. A re-introduced draft that targets all Americans would produce too many young men for the army to take all. Therefore if a draft is re-instituted it should target the male graduates of the Ivies and the Jesuits' only, and if they are are not ROTC they should be privates. Whoever leads should be expected to bleed. This way America's ruling class in training will learn that people from the trailer parks, the ghettos, and the barrios are just as good as they and in some ways better.

#11 RICanuck on 2011-01-14 18:58 (Reply)

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Ban ROTC from the Ivies!