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Tuesday, December 7. 2010America's Puritan, Congregationalist soulPraising the Puritans, at First Things (h/t, AVI). Lawler begins:
Read the whole thing. I do not know how, or whether, immigrants to the US can, or have been able to, or even want to, learn the code. I sure hope they can. Picture is Jonathan Edwards, a member of the Maggie's Farm pantheon. You would not know from the prissy portrait, but he loved to have fun. Trackbacks
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Wonder how the Puritans would react to Maggie's Farm and some of the pics posted here?
I think the article said, and I've read elsewhere and believe it to be true, that the Puritans were not opposed to the pleasures that God's creation had to offer.
So if one can appreciate the beauty of a woman (as is my tendency) without getting all weirded out and sinning, what's the big deal? Not too positively. But they had a hearty approval of sex within marriage and were pretty open about that. They were more obsessed with death, and with wasting time, than with sexual matters. It is we, who are obsessed with sex, who find their non-endorsement so repugnant.
A.V.I.
"It is we who are obsessed with sex..." Speak for yourself, Assistant Village Idiot. Man, wait a sec... Kimberly Guilfoyle is on Fox News... I'll get back to you later... The Puritans loved sex, and said so. In marriage, that is.
Yes, de Toqueville was rough on the Southerners, mainly the Virginians. "all of the vices but none of the virtues..." Pleased yall be havin a ball.
Pirates like sex too, but we don't go to church to be coached into it. I doubt Puritans all were alike. Some Puritans may have left yall's communitties because all the horndogs' howlin'. "A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things." - Gilbert K. Chesterton http://www.answers.com/topic/puritan Life is so full of coincidences. this past weekend I was at Yale, judging a competition of pre-law students. I walked past a building entitled Jonathan Edwards College, and wondered who he was. Two days later, I learn all about him on Maggie's Farm.
That's not coincidence.
Maggie's Farm is a special source with a special sauce. Just ask anybody! He went to Yale - where he excelled at the sciences. Ended up as Pres of Princeton (the College of New jersey).
Jonathan Edwards was a important figure in the first Great Awakening.
http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/Puritans/Jonathan-Edwards/ The Pilgrims came and went, leaving no lasting impact on America – whereas the Pilgrims' showed that through hard work and perseverence, a man could make himself wealthy.
The Puritans were lusty, outgoing folk. They had FUN as they amassed their fortunes. Modern Americans are their intelllectual descendants, making hay as the sun shines. The dour socialists would like to portray Puritans as reprehensible. But as always, the socialists are wrong, wrong, wrong. Long live American Puritanism! "...whereas the Pilgrims' showed that through hard work and perseverence, a man could make himself wealthy."
Should be: "whereas the Puritans..." Beer typo! Anyway, congrats on your Drudge link! You deserve it. Jonathan Edwards: Apostrophe to Sarah Pierpont
http://virginiahuguenot.blogspot.com/2009/06/apostrophe-to-sarah-pierpont.html The man who preached the famous "Sinner's in the hands of an angry God" preached much more about grace. He is a personal hero of mine.
http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/ipb-e/epl-10/web/edwards-treatise.html As did most of the Puritans, Brian. The grace of God is what it's all about, right? Unfortunately we all remember, and Edwards is always framed as that "hell and damnation" preacher.
Thanks for bringing out a bit more of the truth. Cotton Mather too --"Hellfire And Damnation" --
--those guys were navigators -- http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/navigating-past-nihilism/?src=me&ref=general This Puritan does not appreciate some of the pics.
However, this Puritan appreciates the many positives of the site. Like the link to this excellent article. All for sex within marriage, for example:
Married sex was not only legitimate in the Puritan view; it was meant to be exuberant. Gouge said that married couples should engage in sex “with good will and delight, willingly, readily, and cheerfully.” An anonymous Puritan claimed that when two are made one by marriage they may joyfully give due benevolence one to the other; as two musical instruments rightly fitted do make a most pleasant and sweet harmony in a well tuned consort. Alexander Niccholes theorized that in marriage “thou not only unitest unto thyself a friend and comfort for society, but also a companion for pleasure.” In this acceptance of physical sex, the Puritans once again rejected the asceticism and implicit dualism between sacred and secular that had governed Christian thinking for so long. In the Puritan view, God had given the physical world, including sex, for human welfare. http://www.thirstytheologian.com/2009/09/03/the_puritans_and_sex.php The Puritans got more of a bad rap than they deserved. H.L. Menchken, early 20th C columnist, was one of their detractors (HL was a detractor of just about anything he saw). I get confused -- I have the idea that Pilgrims were a subset of the Puritans, but I may be off the track there.
Puritans have left their legacy with us in many ways, the Congregationalist denomination being an important descendant of the Puritan movement. Some of their reputation for thin-lipped intolerance has a basis in fact, though. Puritans flogged and occasionally hanged Quakers, they demanded tax support for their churches and ministers, and they demanded obedience to their morality, whether it matched your beliefs or not. But their thin-lippedness has been exaggerated and their worldliness has been hidden from us in the last century. The Mather family has a mixed character in early New England. Increase and Cotton were educators and they were prime movers of the witchcraft hysteria. I am reading a book now about one of their descendants, a frontier gunman/lawman/outlaw named David Mather. As a Puritan (yes, there are many of us still around although we usually don't refer to ourselves as that and many of us are now of the Presbyterian persuasion in terms of denomination), I would like to mention that if you want to be part of the Jonathan Edwards Fan Club, you can get his tee shirt here (once featured on the cover of Christianity Today in connection with the article "Young, Restless and Reformed"):
http://skreened.com/edwards/jonathan-edwards-is-my-homeboy Proceeds from shirt sales benefit the Jonathan Edwards Center at Yale. And no, being a Puritan (aka "Reformed") is not about being dark and depressed and making sure no one has any fun. That's the caricature. It's basically about trying to live your life in accordance with Scripture and being obedient to God and the Gospel, and taking that seriously. |