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Thursday, April 29. 2010A Tale Of Two Westminsters: 28 and 35 Years LaterThirty-five years ago, Yesterday, I went to Before the forum, attendees went outside in the I knew three of the speakers well (and two others less from shared personal experiences, more as acquaintances, but major figures) from many years of collaboration and friendship to not let the Vietnamese and American sacrifices be in vain, to educate new generations in the lessons personally witnessed and learned... For those knowledgeable, I won’t belabor the many insights, except the most important: The reckless and ignorant American involvement in the overthrow of President Diem in 1963 not only wrecked his non-American way toward increasingly effective governance and containing the Northern subversion but created the conditions for half a million US troops to be necessary. The South Vietnamese and ARVN fought well and bravely in many key battles, from taking the Citadel in The sad fate of our allies, millions dead and fleeing, tens of millions to today suffering oppression, murderous “ethnic cleansing” of our Montagnard friends, is supposed by some to be excused somehow by our enrichment of the corrupt rulers from our profitable trade and investments. The mirage that The overriding purpose of the forum was not to hear each other speak, already knowing all this. The purpose was to record and transmit to younger generations, American and Vietnamese in Another valuable lesson of the forum was in the audience. There were refugees from other countries elsewhere in the world who came to share their common experience of pain and exodus from oppression. For those interested, here's a Google-poorly translated from the Vietnamese article about the forum in Westminster yesterday. Twenty-eight years ago, President Reagan sought to accomplish the same goal. There’s many memorable quotes from that speech, but here several stand out. Reagan reviews an important fact:
Reagan issues a clarion call:
Reagan quotes Winston Churchill:
Reagan treasures our ally:
Here’s a description of the makings of Reagan’s speech, its expression of the Reagan strategy that brought down the Soviet empire and enlarged freedom throughout the world. Today, we have a temporary President who evicts the bust of Churchill from his office, who treats allies as beneath consideration or honor, who rewards our foes through figurative and real hugs and bows. But, as the Vietnamese in exile and suffering will be resilient and ultimately shuck their shackles, so shall we.
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Bruce,
I was with the 1st Bde of the 5th Inf Div in 1970, and fought with ARVN inits in the Baa Longg valley, the area south of the D near A-4 ( you jarheads called it Con Thien), and other garden spots. They invariably fought well, often doing things we wouldnt do in similar circs such as fire and movement under MG fire. Their air support was better too from the prop driven planes used by thier Air Force. Much more accurate than ours. Keep up the good work. Semper Fi I have one small disagreement. Lam Son 719 was a disaster foisted on the ARVN by MACV. Knowing that our draw down was in full swing our leadership believed that it was necessary for ARVN to demonstrate their effectiveness while we still had ample air and helo assets in country. Unfortunately, you can't launch a major offensive into Laos without first occupying fire bases in the vicinity of Khe Sanh and you also have to clear and hold highway 9 so you have a supply line. Given these necessary conditions, how could the NVA not suspect that something big was up. It gave them sufficient time to prepare. Although initially successful. LS719 turned bad when the decision was made to begin the withdrawal. Disengaging forces in contact is one of the most challenging missions a conventional force can conduct. It requires sophisticated communication and coordination that tasks the ability of the most well trained and led force. It was a mission the US had conducted numerous times but one the ARVN had limited experience with. That's not to take away from the courage and tenacity shown on the ground by the average South Vietnamese soldier. Several of the best ARVN Ranger battalions were rendered combat ineffective as they desperately attempted to hold the line of retreat open.
Ironically, this same flaw was demonstrated again in 1975 when President Thieu made the not unreasonable decision to consolidate his forces by ceding control of the Central Highlands. But Thieu and the JGS dilly dallied and gave contradictory orders which did not allow the commanders on the ground sufficient time to plan and organize for a withdrawal. The end result was a confused retreat down routes that had not been prepared or secured and where the families of the soldiers (many of whom lived "on base") plus other refugees clogged the roads and created a perception that the ARVN was routed. My apologies for being so long winded. Total US helicopter losses supporting LS719 were equal to total US helicopter losses in 1970. My sincere thanks to our commenters for their invaluable additions.
These are the facts that most Americans never heard and still don't. Those who closely follow other current trouble-spots wonder when our media and DC denizens will start talking facts rather than expelling ignorant foul odors upon allies. Thanks for this post and the thoughtful comments. I have two cousins who lived just down the street from our family in Anaheim who both served in Vietnam and they both came home safely, thank God.
I worked with a fellow who is married to one of the flight attendants who was on the last flight out of Saigon. What a harrowing story. |
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