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Come on now, BD! Buffalo are surrogates that are being used to control the land in the Midwest: the Spotted Owl decision in the Pacific Northwest has caused the loss of thousands of timber related jobs creating conditions of despair with meth being the worst culprit; not unlike your eastern inner cities. Wolves were released in the Mountain West in order to gain control of resources that help make this country self sufficient; instead the wolves leaves us with a legacy that will last for years. http://washingtonrebel.typepad.com/washington_rebel/2010/03/the-truth-about-wolves.html
Folks back east might like the idea of nature untrammeled: the reality is different; buffalo are difficult to contain in a confined area. Utopians have dreamed of a Great Buffalo Preserve for years. Do you really want the radical enviromentalist in control of this nation's breadbasket? I love the idea of large herds of free-roaming buffalo on the plains. Unfortunately you would create the same types of problems for people who live out there, no matter how sparsely populated the area might be, that are happening with wolves. It sounds like a good idea to everyone who doesn't have to worry about encountering them. Not to mention, a herd of stampeding buffalo would do damage to a small town or rural homestead that would rival a tornado. I say the only people who get a say in the matter are those who live where the buffalo would roam, and the vast majority of those will say "not in my backyard. " Plus anyone who has raised buffalo can tell you they are not the harmless, non-agressive creatures you might think.
If you wish to see the true agenda behind "Buffalo Commons" then overlay a map of it's proposed area with maps showing our major oil, gas, coal and grain production and grazing lands.
Ask yourself if you will enjoy living an 18th century "lifestyle" with all that entails. Just remember that all your neighbors will have to rely on hunting and fishing so the game will all be gone within six months-eaten by you and your neighbors. Farming is labor intensive especially without the "power tools" used today like tractors and such. Harvesting enough wood to use for cooking and to keep you warm during the winter will get harder and harder because everyone around you will be harvesting it too leaving your area denuded of wood. Oh, by the way, don't get injured while doing any of this either. There will be no electricity to power a hospital nor petroleum products that are crafted into modern medical tools and items anymore. That little cut on your hand can quite possibly kill you with 18th century style "healthcare". in the days of bow and arrow
when the buffalo ran free healthcare options were quite narrow and you died at thirty-three Repopulating the West with Bison is a terrible idea. In addition to the reasons given by the other commenters, how will they acquire the necessary land? Eminent domain? Does Maggie's now advocate the Government confiscating even more private property, so long as it is not yours?
BTW, land values are on fire, this would not be a case of putting buffalo on ground no one wants. To our commenters:
Sheesh. I just like the idea of some Bison. I'd like to seek some back in Tennessee and Illinois too. Chicago would be perfect. I am not suggesting a plague of Bison. Bird Dog my friend ... My husband-the-naturalist tells me that large herds of buffalo are already being raised, quite successfully, in a number of areas in the United States. Yellowstone, and 'West Yelly' as the naturalists call it, houses more than one herd. The average size and weight of a buffalo is about 200 to 400 pounds greater than a comparable individual belonging to domesticated cattle, so they can be more rambunctious than domesticated cattle. But generally, they don't cause a lot of trouble -- except when dumb tourists approach a buffalo bull and try to seat a little child on his back in order to take a photo. That was a kerfuffle, believe me, and the tourist whined up a storm about the buffalo "attacking" him.
Where do city-dwelling tourists get these ideas? I blame Walt Disney. Marianne Buffalo! That should be interesting. How many deer are hit by cars every year? Have you seen what they do to those cars?
Now just imagine hitting a buffalo, or being hit by one. Not a pretty picture. We can't go home again, buffalo can't roam in our home anymore. I just found out recently that a breed of elk that once roamed the eastern United States has been reintroduced in Kentucky and Tennessee. Where I live in Illinois there are 2 kinds of people. Those who oppose hunting those cute deer and those who have either been involved in an accident with one, or who have a family member who has, and wants the herd culled. Elk are at least 50 percent bigger than deer, so one can only imagine the extra damage involved.
We have lots of them up here in Western Canada, and down in Montana too, and they don't seem to be as skittish and stupid as deer about crossing highways. But yes, when you hit one it is terribly damaging to vehicles and people.
I shot a bull last year - 800 pounds. Mighty tasty. Ecology is fine, but what about etymology? You can't repopulate with buffalo.
rhhardin ... Probably can't repopulate with buffalo. But you can hybridize them with domestic cattle, and some folks are already doing it. Frankly, I'd rather have a Wagyu beef filet, and Wagyu cattle are already being raised in Texas. We can buy them at luxury grocery stores, at roughly twice the price of prime beef.
The other day, when I was shopping at Central Market, one of those over-exercised little blonde 'ladies who lunch' stepped up to the meat counter next to me, and asked the butcher for "the leanest Kobe beefsteak." that he had. The butcher looked at me and winked, and I winked back. After she left, I bought a gorgeously well marbled rib-eye steak and split it with my husband that night. What a treat. Steak the way it used to be, before fat was demonized. You can keep your buffalo meat. I'll take Kobe every time. Marianne Where do I sign the petition for "rewilding" parts of Manhattan?
I guess you missed this post over at Theo's.[http://washingtonrebel.typepad.com/washington_rebel/2010/03/the-truth-about-wolves.html] If true, it doesn't instill confidence in the governments ability to manage wildlife. |
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