We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Humans have omnivore teeth and we have evolved from omnivore stock, if you sign on with the Darwin gang and I do. Or God made us with teeth to eat meat and plants, both, if you are more religious in your thought. Either way, it seems as natural for humans to eat meat as to eat plants, and as ethical.
Humans have reached a stage that other predators have not: we manage our food animals for their well-being and we slaughter them more cleanly than any wild predator does. The relationship between humans and food animals is far more humane and beneficial to the food animals than is their natural condition as prey.
I learned something interesting about broccoli this past summer. Our remodeling contractor is a big time gardener and he grows about an acre of veggies - broccoli among the other veggies. Apparently broccoli grow best with cool nights 40ºF) and warm days(60/65ºF). Kind of like maple trees.
...wonder how much of our increasing longevity is due to our very recent release from dependence on only seasonal foods. Imagine the two graphs, longevity and consumption of foods frozen, refrigerated, canned, et cetera. They'd look just alike.
Imagine the possibilities - all the lovely money that could be given out through grants to settle the science - Nobel Prizes and Oscars given for documentaries on the value of frozen veggies vs seasonal fresh.
hmm, well you could select the particular foodstuff, say a tomato, and compile all the nutrient data on fresh vs non-fresh, and divide each of the two totals by 12, then then subtract how many twelfths the fresh is unavailable.
--could use the IPCC method --hire the lab work to top academics and then make sure their data analysis conclusional methodology is peer-reviewed rigorously. Then supply them the raw data by hiring experts in the food industry, say, the Bird's Eye Frozen Foods commission sales force, and asking them to make anonymous ballpark guesses as to what the nutrient numbers might probably maybe be.