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Sunday, November 24. 2024

Indian Pudding: First, peel three medium-sized Indians...

In New England, Indian Pudding is as essential a part of Thanksgiving dinner as Pumpkin or Squash Pie. Great stuff, if you like the flavor of molasses. It's not just for Thanksgiving.


It's called "Indian" because it is made with corn (maize) meal - the staple food of North American Indians. It's easy to forget that they were not mainly hunter-gatherers, but farmers with 100-acre fields. Farmers, with their main amusement being killing, raping, and torturing members of neighboring tribes. A cultural thing.


Simple rustic ingredients. No sugar? You use molasses. No flour? You use corn meal. The only trick is to make sure it is neither too firm nor too runny. Serve warm with ice cream or whipped cream.


Here's a bit of the history of this dessert, with a good recipe.

Posted by Bird Dog in Food and Drink at 14:02 | Comments (18) | Trackbacks (0)

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I like Indian pudding.
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#1 jappy on 2009-11-19 17:34 (Reply)
Corn and Maize are two dramatically different crops.
I dont have to describe what an ear of corn looks like.

With maize there is one ear per plant.
The ear is dead center at the top of the plant.
The grain on an ear of maize consists of individual grains, each one supported on a straw, and having the appearance in size shape and color of a BB (as in Daisy BB gun)
Maize is not eaten by humans.

Why do you insist that corn and maize are the same?
#2 bgarrett on 2009-11-19 17:35 (Reply)
Maize (Zea mays L. ssp. mays, pronounced /?me?z/; also known in most English speaking countries as corn), is a grass domesticated in Mesoamerica and subsequently spread throughout the American continents. After European contact with the Americas in the late 15th and early 16th centuries, maize spread to the rest of the world.

Maize is the most widely grown crop in the Americas (332 million metric tons annually in the United States alone). Hybrid maize, because of its high grain yield as a result of heterosis ('hybrid vigor'), is preferred by farmers over conventional varieties. While some maize varieties grow up to 7 metres (23 ft) tall,[1] most commercially grown maize has been bred for a standardized height of 2.5 metres (8.2 ft). Sweet corn is usually shorter than field-corn varieties.
#2.1 Bird Dog on 2009-11-19 18:21 (Reply)
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#2.1.1 jappy on 2009-11-19 20:46 (Reply)
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#2.1.1.1 jappy on 2009-11-19 22:36 (Reply)
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#2.1.1.1.1 Luther on 2009-11-19 23:55 (Reply)
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#2.1.1.1.1.1 Bird Dog on 2009-11-20 04:45 (Reply)
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#2.1.1.1.1.1.1 jappy on 2009-11-20 08:29 (Reply)
"You call it corn, we call it maize"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuOlD0JZhM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HuttJkBZxo
#2.2 Jim on 2018-11-20 15:48 (Reply)
Maize and sunflour
http://rhhardin.blogspot.com/2010/09/cornbread-makings.html
#3 rhhardin (Link) on 2010-11-06 13:06 (Reply)
Yucky...
#4 Leag on 2010-11-06 15:25 (Reply)
Have to agree Leag.
#5 pbird on 2017-11-22 17:09 (Reply)
I am the only one in the family who likes it, and two servings Thanksgiving week is about right for me for the whole year.

As for the Indians, they seemed like hunter-gatherers to the Puritans because they did not fence their land, and did hunt and fish more than the English did. But you are right. They grew crops and managed them. Pretty cleverly too, in most cases.
#6 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2017-11-23 00:47 (Reply)
The Iroquois were farmers but the plains indians were hunter gatherers. Some planted a few crops, much aboriginals in Australia do, but they relied on hunting and gathering wild plants.
#6.1 Mike K (Link) on 2017-11-24 21:00 (Reply)
Um, how do you farm a 100 acre farm if you have not yet developed a plow? Or a domesticated animal like an ox or horse, which is not native to North America? Where is the pottery to store the food from this 100 acre farm? 100 acres farms are pretty big. In 1620, an acre was defined as the amount of land a man can plow in one day with an ox. How did they get 100 acres of cleared land? That's a lot of trees and rocks to clear away without the help of at least one domesticated animal.
#7 Kathleen Fiozzo on 2017-11-23 08:07 (Reply)
You clear with fire. It was a lower intensity type of farming than the Europeans practiced.
#7.1 NJSoldier (Link) on 2018-11-20 14:14 (Reply)
They were communal farms I believe, not individual.
The men hunted, the women & older kids farmed (and did everything else!)
#7.2 Esteban on 2018-11-21 04:32 (Reply)
I'll be at Longfellow's Wayside Inn in a few weeks enjoying some Indian Pudding for desert.
#8 NJSoldier (Link) on 2018-11-20 14:16 (Reply)

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