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Sunday, August 16. 2009Afghanistan: What About The Grunts?“Grunts” are the front-line fighting Marines and soldiers. My friend R.J. DelVecchio is moved by the following article by a leading commentator on, and supporter of, the tasks faced by Grunts in Here’s DelVecchio’s email:
Here’s the column by Bing West from Small Wars Journal website (a link to his bio is at the end):
This may, also, be of interest: Why We Need More Troops in The question still remains, whether President Obama will pursue half-measures or go full in to accomplish something more possibly lasting.
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I think we'd be better off keeping our focus on Iraq. We'd need 10 times the troops in Afghanistan more than we have to make much progress, even then it'd be a long haul. Osama did certainly suck us in.
Keep the focus on Iraq, use Afghanistan for target practice. I think Obumble will succeed in mucking up both places. I thank you for using your gift of words...to explain this view point...in a manner that allows me to use it...for educational politics...in an atmosphere of very war ignorant people. Kudos to you!
Ralph Peters has been the only columnist I've read who I agree with on Afghanistan.
1. The Afghan Army is completely missing in action. 2. Hamid Karzai, his political allies, and the Afghan police are so corrupt we should be shooting at them. If the Afghans don't step up soon, the way the Iraqis did, it will be time to bid them farewell and good luck with the Taliban. http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/peters.htm I have just finished rereading 'From the Jaws of Victory' Charles Fair, 1971.
I feel that in the last few years, we finally have better Generals and selected pathetic politicians. "Those scholars who emphasized the concepts of non-kinetic counterinsurgency need also to design concepts that bring more lethality to the ground battlefield."
We have those concepts. We call them "Marines", "Rangers", "Seals" and "Special Operations". What we need is the willingness among the REMFs to slip their leash. To look the AP, Reuters and CNN in the camera and say to the whole world that if you shoot at an American soldier from a building we WILL collapse that building around you. And if we cannot identify the building we will drop the block, and if we cannot identify the block we will destroy the town. Now don't misunderstand me, I don't think we should do a Dresden just because someone popped off a pistol, and with current tools and training (We Always Need More (and better) Training) we should be able to minimize civilian casualties. But. But. But if the locals are going to accommodate the Taliban (in Afghanistan) or the various factions (Iraq), then they are a part of the problem. Here in Iraq the police have done a (barely) decent job of trying to take charge, they are corrupt, but given the Chicago PD, can Americans really complain about that too much? At least they are willing to stand and fight occasionally. And if you accommodate the enemy you lose the right to complain about the results. Oh, and that 100 pounds of gear? There are lots of things that play in to that, but part of it is the body armor--I've got a set here (I'm a civilian working with the Military in Iraq), and the front and back strike plates alone are around 10 pounds, the level IIIa vest/carrier is probably 20-25 pounds itself. So before you strap on ONE weapon or one single spare magazine you've got 40+ pounds on you. Oh, and the helmet ain't so light either. Then you have all the other protective cr*p that they have to carry plus water (at 8+ pounds per gallon). So at least half of the 60/100 pound (reports vary) load is armor, water and bullets. Not much point in getting in a fight w/out bullets or armor. @bob: Iraq is mostly done. We need to hang around a generation or three to let the institutions "set" (to the extent that they will, look at how things are going in the US and we've been working on this for 12 generations now). Heck, I haven't heard any incoming in a LONG time. It's boring here now. The Marine commanders in Afghanistan have the authority to have their men drop some of that protective weight if they deem mobility more important for a particular mission. Doesn't sound like it happens often, however.
Hussein0 has no interest in victory in Afghanistan.
I pity the grunts who are under his illigitimate command in that McNamarain disaster. Step back in formation lads. Heck, I haven't heard any incoming in a LONG time. It's boring here now.
Glad to hear that. Best to you, sir. Maybe people of Afghanistan want to have a Taliban government? Maybe the Iraqis want to solve their political problems in the traditional Iraqi way? Maybe they just don't want our help?
I am not saying what is wrong an what is good. Just think - this is a good practice to ask somebody if he need help beforehand. |