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Monday, August 17. 2009Goin' to Carthage (gonna mess around)Among other cool places, I am headed for Carthage in a week or two. It's called Tunisia now. Phoenician imperialists colonized the place. It was once the bread-basket of the Roman Empire. Wheat. Today, the people there are mostly Berbers. St. Augustine was a Berber as was, of course, his Mom, Saint Monica. I am studying up, as I always do before I go somewhere. The way I approach every subject is to begin with the big picture, and then to work my way into the details as time and interest permit. For me, the history Big Picture is my 5000 BC to 1900 AD time line. Will bring cameras, fully charged. With the strange DC currents and strange plugs over yonder, you cannot expect to recharge the batteries. I guess I do need a third camera or spare batteries for a trip like this, but it seems like a waste of money. Maybe I can find one of my old ones somewhere but who knows if I can find the chargers for them? Here's St. Vincent de Paul Cathedral in Tunis. St. Vincent de Paul was sold into slavery, and ministered to other Christian slaves in north Africa. The country is now 98% Moslem, but they have a tradition of tolerance to their Christians and Jews, and their Islam is not of the hateful sort at all. Plus I just learned we are stopping by Capri too. I haven't been there, but my kids have. What next? She has constructed this trip to be a surprise for me, and gives me one detail at a time so I can learn. Trackbacks
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Get a grip on yall's mind Dog.
Islam ain't nothin but hateful. Best get use to shining. Wrong, Leag.
I love Turkey too. Some of these places and people are plain wonderful. You are more likely to get pick-pocketed in Rome than in Istanbul or Ankara. I have a friend who lived in Riyadh for three years. She said the street vendors who sell gold bracelets and necklaces leave their wares on the sidewalk as they go off to get lunch.
Have a wonderful time, BD. It will be nice to get off the farm and away from its crazy animals for a while. :) ` Right Dog, when did yall say was the last time yall's pocket was picked in Rome?
Christians are not allowed unless yall turn out yall's pockets like obedient dhimmis. How many native Christians are in Tunis? Three or is it five? Shine on, Dog. Sorry BD...
Thought you meant Carthage, NY....plse send pics...!! Cheers Berber faces are pretty easy to pick out. The second "Meat guys in Fez" photo is of a Berber guy, I think, or at least part. They have slightly bulgy foreheads.
I took an adapter plug for my battery charger (to Morocco) and it worked just fine. Have a great time! As I was saying, the second "Meat guys in Fez" photo.
http://class-factotum.blogspot.com/2009/06/sunday-photos.html A lot of history there. It was part of the North African campaign during WW11. Here's a link. The interesting part if you follow the link is the Sicily Campaign as to me anyway because my friend was there when Mussilini was hanged.He's passed away now 1994 but he lost his leg from the knee down. Not much surgery in those days.he even had original pictures of that hanging.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_African_Campaign BD, I hope you and the Mrs have a wonderful time!!
A lowly sub prosperous, conservative, christian, beer, bourbon, vodka wine drinker. With a talent for falling out of trees with a chainsaw, who is Chairman of the Board of this evil, hate filled, un american blog. Don't worry about a thing, if you think the venom is bad just wait till I give editing a try!!! : ) While in Carthage, you can also go to the American Memorial Cemetery nearby. Though it's smaller than the cemetery at Normandy, it's still a humbling, beautiful experience. I had the honor of being in the color guard there once, I've never forgotten it.
The Tunisians are on the whole very friendly, and Tunis is a mix of medieval and '50's era Europe. Thanks for your service, Rob. That must have been a humbling experience. Too bad most nowadays have no idea what went before them.
BD, lots of pictures. No excuses. rob,
I have an uncle buried there. It is my ambition to visit once I can come up with a good enough itinerary to convince my wife to go along with. Thank you for your service and honoring his final resting place. Cameras used to take AA batteries a couple of years ago.
Proprietary systems pay better, though. Enjoy BD. My wife's idea of a surprise is a can of paint and some rollers.
Reminds me of a great line from Heinlein's Starship Troopers. A student in the "History and Moral Philosophy Class" declared that "violence never solved anything," and the teacher snaps back "tell that to the city fathers of Carthage." It has become my stock response to that cliche.
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.“ -Robert A. Heinlein
` I'll second the American Cemetary in Tunis. We stumbled on it while there on business. The Superintendent took us on a very moving tour.
Tunis approved on two conditions:
1.No Berber rugs,textiles,camel trappings etc. It's all dreck.Look for Roman coins;you might be surprised. 2.Make an effort to get to Constantine,in Algeria.It's not far and it's fabulous. should check out old michael totten archives -- great stuff from tunisia
Agreed. I went to the American Cemetary as a 20 year old sailor in 1982. It was humbling, knowing these men were my age and paid the ultimate price. It reminded that I might be called to cash in my SGLI, too.
Interesting about Augustine and his Mom. I understand his dog, Bernard, was also canonized for his miraculous coat from whose prodigious clippings entire carpets were woven. They were Berbers, I'm sure.
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