We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Nice to see a Presbyterian church even putting up a fight. I'd call it a draw - the Catholics got the comedy, the Presbyterians actually read the Bible.
Even though I'm a Catholic, I'd have to say the Presbyterians are probably correct on this, but really, how can it be heaven if your pets aren't there?
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Actually, the church's position is that there's no reason NOT to believe your animals will be with you in Heaven.
If nothing without a soul gets to heaven it's going to be fairly boring with only humans around. No fish? No cattle? No fruit or veg? Or wine? Or BEER? What are we going to do with eternity, if not eat and drink? How to be merry, else? ;0
Actually, the Cumberland Presbys are NOT Calvinists, they broke from the mainline presby churches in the late 1800's over the theory of predestination. They maintain the very democratic presbyterian organization (bottom up control, literally, as opposed to a hierarchial organization typified by the RC church) but recognise the existance (I know, all you philosophy majors -begging the argument) of free will.
It was one of the few churches I've been a member of without having serious reservations vis-a-vis theology. (The kids were young, ok? I've been an agnostic deist for 20 years, or as a friend called himself, a lapsed Unitarian).
Well, if I remember my catechism indoctrination (yeah I went to the antichrist PUBLIC school because my parents couldn't afford the catholic school for 5 kids), animals do not have souls (all animals, inanimate objects and such) so I call BS on the catholic church sign above. I have to agree with NJ above...the presby's actually have a biblical based sign.
Having said all that, too bad it ain't real, I'd love to see more church sign wars as a way to get more people to darken the doors.
We had to put our 12 yr. old Pointing Lab down last Tuesday. Her hips just gave out, and we could not find a way to make her comfortable. So, so sad to see your Bird Dog go down...
This is the first dog related item that has made me smile. This time my tears were happy ones.
Maybe dogs can go to heaven but the seating is limited to the same number as angels that can dance on the head of pin. But absolutely no cats...they sharpen their claws on the cumulus.
...The old lady said to the Jesuit; "I could never be happy in Heaven without my little dog". The Jesuit replied, "Then your dog will certainly go to Heaven"
Heh - swiped from Maggie's Farm:...
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