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Wednesday, March 11. 2009QQQCompromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line -- and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time? Jesse Helms in 1959, as quoted at The Foundry Trackbacks
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Bird Dog; Your system is being compromised by someone with administrative access. You sign on states that our email address will not be disclosed but if you will look at the Tues Morning Links, comment 1.1.1.1 by an M. E. Froelich discloses all but a few of the letters of my email address. There is no one on the site other than someone with administrative ability to look at those fields or someone granted access to your system. I have an idea who it is but it's just an idea. However this is not a confidence builder that Maggies Farm is controlling it's site in a responsible manner. I would appreciated it if you would look into this and I would caution you not to use a certain outside advisor you have previously used to tweak certain aspects of your system. This person is very very knowledgeable on computers so there is a serious question as to how far he is willing to go in doing damage to any of your contributors. Your cooperation in this matter is appreciated
Then explain how someone got six letters from my email address that is so obtuse the F'ing NSA wouldn't think of them?
I haven't ever given out my email address to anyone on the net or at Maggies Farm..so what id ridiculous about your site being compromised by what can only be someone authorized by Maggies Farm pooh bahs or one of the pooh bahs themselves? Simply blowing it off as ridiculous isn't reasonalble nor does it begin to answer a problem Maggies Farm may have with the unauthorized use of you comtributors email addresses. Answer that. Do you have some culpability in the charade? Then who is authorized to see the email addresses of contributors.
What absurd is that this occurred in the first place, no doubt over the written word on the Internet and someone who disagrees and decides to take an action that they and very few others are allowed to take? That my friend is what is ridiculous. Deductive logic BD. The truth of the conclusion follows necessarily to be a logical consequence of the premises. My premise is sound, the conclusion leads directly to those at Maggies Farm that have the capability to see email addresses. BD could you expand further, does Habu or for that matter the rest of us have any of his concerns. Thank you. Personally I enjoy reading everyone here.
Your silence and ennui speak volumes about your character, which is a sad commentary for such a sterling site. This place is tops, interesting, and a just plane hoot.
It has the best selection of topics day in and day out and is a joy to participate in. I simply wish that you would call of off the dog. As much as anyone posting I have a right to my point of view, Granted it may not coincide with the mainstream theme but itsn't that the point of blog discussions? Anyway do what you can or are inclined to do.There really isn't a thing I can do about it except bitch and moan, and that's really not the way to go. Too tough to refute the logic of it.
Some of you other players, chime in. Is it unreasonable? Do you want to be the next target of a rogue who decides to harass you? Or better yet, posit a better explanation for the odds of someone without access correctly guessing the first five letters of someones e-mail name? I know they'll be a huge reluctance to talk truth to power but that's what courage is partially about. And how ironic that this thread is all about this
Compromise, hell! That's what has happened to us all down the line -- and that's the very cause of our woes. If freedom is right and tyranny is wrong, why should those who believe in freedom treat it as if it were a roll of bologna to be bartered a slice at a time? Can't stand it when the tables are turned, can you, Habu? You are a wicked mean POS, but know this: MF, its hosts and former hosts had nothing... nothing to do with giving out any information. You had everything to do with it.
Take a break from yourself and all of your delusions. You need it. Compromise with moral adolescents is at the heart of the argumentum ad temperantiam fallacy we're pursuing with the left. They claim 2 + 2 = 6. No wonder we live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5.
ell so far I see the brave and well reasoned have shown( or not,anon) themselves.
It must be an absolute horror for some of you people, have to reach so far from the truth that is right in your face. One thing some of you are really paranoid about is Leaq being me, or another person du jour being me. For quite some time I've just been Habu, with the exception of Possumtater which goes way back. At other times when a nome de Internet has been used F.Charle Cunninham or some such name I've never used it to castigate another. In almost all cases those were light hearted mirthful comments. When I have something serious to say or criticism I use Habu. I don't need any subterfuge to hide behind when I'm being serious. The simple fact that several of you don't like the way I express an idea has got your panties in a wad. Luther is forever trying to edit my presentation and can't seem to come to grips with an honest disagreement. Meta has shown herself to be vulgar and petty. But the real topic here has nothing to do with whether I like having things turned on me. That is expected in this type of forum. What is at issue is that Maggies Farm has a clearly stated policy of not divulging email addresses and in this case only a person with administrative privilage can breach that. It isn't about me but the integrity of this site and how right up to this typing they refuse to say , Hey we'll look into it" I can hold my own in any colloquy I engage in, and if I know I can't due to lack of knowledge on the topic I usually don't comment at all. But I don't have any trouble doing point-counterpoint. Some of you are beginning to blur the line between the reality of the Internet and it's ability to allow a person anonimity and the real world where you would simply walk away in frustration. Now how about let's seeing if this site will enforce it's own instructions and laws or if they'll selectively choose what and against whom they will enforce those concepts. BTW..Meta your signature is all over comment #6, using almost the exact words and initials in another statement about me,,but stay anon if it unburdens the responsibility of your reply. Just as you have no 'reason' to believe who I am... I have much less reason to believe what you say. That is a less than zero sum event, I think.
I have never had a problem with honest disagreement. But I have had disagreement with various slurs bandied about in the support of same. Denigration of another's intelligence, education, or lack of guts would fall into that category. Meta hands you your ass in a wheelbarrow and your only recourse is to call her names and attempt to degrade her morality? Cheap shit. Get over yourself. The one person who most disputed your initial banning was Meta. You've never acknowledged nor given appreciation for that deed by her. As for your email addy... I must not have been the only one to have noticed when you used it in the name field of the comment block a few months ago. You preach old ways... but yours are slipping. Your ego must be in a horrid state.
You should also work on weening youself off of hate. It's a killer. One day you hopefully will find the courage. In the interim I believe blatherskite sums you up. Not name calling, just a word you'll be force to look up, and so , so accurate. Vulgar? Petty? whoa... You forgot 'trailer trash'.
But I want you to be right before you storm of the blog with your 19th dramatic departure - slowed only by pitiful maunderings about how perfect you are and what forlorn morons the rest of us are - .... Here is a present for you, you asswipe. h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBaV5MvX_4 Enjoy! Oh, I figured out what your email address meant in sixty seconds. You talk too much, Habu. :) ` Vulgar? Petty? whoa... You forgot 'trailer trash'...
..a spiteful and wretched, tacky talkin', razor totin' woman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEpBdDv0waY is this anyway for a proper Southern lady to act? Ump-ump... . Yes Meta, vulgar as in the colloquy you engaged in just the othe day invulving "blue balls" Ladies don't do those things.
You have no trouble using vulgarisms. You speak for yourself and what you are is easily identified. Meta and Luther,
I would still encourage you to address the crux of the discussion which isn't about our previous name calling or disputes but rather the lack of Maggies Farm enforcing it's own standards or do, as I stated, selectively and without thought for each contributors safety. I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on that. I also encourage others to share their thoughts on whether eqanimity in action with regard to posters is too much to ask of a blog. Habu, i have tried to warn ya before.
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