Maggie's Farm

Why is that song by those guys with flower pots on their heads looping through my head?

"Whip it,..... whip it good.....nah nah nah nah...whip it, whip it good!"
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When I was in high school, I lived in the north country surrounded by a population of 98% Catholic. I remember riding around drinking beer on Saturdays with my friends when someone would say - "Hey..it's one O'clock!" and off to the church we'd go. I'd sit in the car holding all the beer while they ran in for confession. They'd come back and I'd hand their beer back while they chortled and said how many Hail Marys they'd gotten. They'd laugh and say something like, "Start over!" and off we'd go. As a Presbyterian I thought to myself, 'What a waste of time.... I've got the forgiveness and I don't have to tell anyone anything because it's not my fault.'

Predestination. What a great way to go.
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Nicely written, CC. (Which means good thinking....) Most therapy is cognitive behavioral therapy these days. Your numbers 2 and 3 are good. #2 can create the conditions for the rest of them and it's sometimes tough to handle that one alone. Your use of the word 'survival' is poignant and exact.
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Check this story out. It's so wrong on so many levels it makes your mind shut down. But check out the reasoning, or lack of, in the third-to-last paragraph: Execution was put off for two years because the woman was depressed. Like she's going to come out of that depression knowing she'll be executed? Mind-boggling.

(01-16) 04:16 PST SHANGHAI, China (AP) --

A court in central China has sentenced a woman to death for hiring someone to strangle her 9-year-old son so she could have another child with her new husband without violating population laws, a court official and reports said Friday.

The case stems in part from Chinese policies — in effect for more than three decades — that limit most couples to only one child.

The Higher People's Court in Shaanxi province ordered the death penalty for former bank clerk Li Yingfang, overturning a lower court decision that might have allowed her a life sentence, said a court official.

The official at the lower court in Weinan, a city in Shaanxi, said he was familiar with the case and confirmed that the death sentence had been ordered. As is common with Chinese officials not authorized to speak to media, he gave only his surname, Liu.

Calls to the Shaanxi Higher Court rang unanswered Friday.

Liu also confirmed reports by Shaanxi Television that said Li, 36, gave custody of her son from her first marriage to the boy's grandmother after her first husband died.

She remarried, but her second husband also had a daughter from his first marriage, so the couple could not legally have another child, it said.

The report said Li first paid 70,000 yuan (about $10,000) to have a man named Wang Ruijie kill her second husband's daughter, but the girl resisted and escaped. Li then took her son to a meeting with Wang, who strangled the boy and left him by a rural road.

Li initially received a death sentence suspended for two years because she had suffered from depression after having two abortions due to the rules against her bearing another child, the reports said. Such sentences are often commuted to life in prison.

But the higher court found that her depression was not directly related to her crime.

Wang also was given a suspended death sentence, which the higher court upheld. Both were ordered to pay compensation to the bereaved grandmother.

oh. :( No thanks for the reminder of that horror. I remember watching as the police investigators realized the truth, and I recall the utter shock and disbelief on their faces. It mirrored all of us, but I felt so for them because they were so close to it. It makes you wonder how cops survive without serious PTSD. Forget acts of nature, acts of war.... acts of human nature can be the worst.
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