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Friday, May 30. 2008Doc's Computin' Tips: Security software The biggest change we've seen in recent years is the role of Bad Boy going from viruses to spyware. Yes, it would a terrible tragedy if a virus ate your computer, but at least it wouldn't cost you much. At worst, a new Windows system and some setup time. At best, ten short minutes of your time if you did the backup lesson. No big deal, really. Spyware, on the other hand, and specifically what are called "keyloggers", are a whole different breed o' cat. Keyloggers do exactly that; they log your keystrokes and then send the info off to the bad guys. All they have to do is look for 19 numbers in a row — your 16 credit card numbers and the 3-digit security code off the back of the card — and voilà! Now it's just a matter of trying out a handful of expiration dates on Cadillac.com until they hit pay dirt. Don't let it happen to you. (continued below the fold) I can't remember the exact stats, but the last time I read an estimate on how many American computers were infected by something, it was pretty staggering. About two-thirds, as I recall. That probably puts you — unless you're actively taking measures and have all of your security programs up to date — smack-dab on the list. There are three main areas of security:
For years I've used Norton for anti-virus and firewall work, and, after extensive research, SpySweeper for anti-spyware chores. Recently, however, my Norton account expired so I decided to take the whole thing from the top. When it comes to anti-virus software, it appears the traditional heavyweights, like Norton and McAfee, have been getting a run for their money. In many of the reviews, they're just somewhere on the middle of the pack, rather than battling it out for the #1 slot as they have for the past two decades. They still both fit into the 'very good' category, though. A program called BitDefender was widely hailed, but I found it to drag the entire system down. It's actively examining every new file and folder on the system as they're being opened or created, so the net result is that everything feels 'draggy' in computer terms. I'd run some setup program and the whole thing would just freeze for 10 seconds while BitDefender closely examined the file for bad things. Other programs manage to pull this off without dragging down the system, so that was enough to nix it. This has also traditionally been true of Norton Anti-Virus. If you've ever heard anyone badmouth the program by calling it "slow", it's because it was (to the best of my knowledge) the first anti-virus program to run in real-time. So what the vocal whinority didn't 'get' was that (1) it was doing something conceivably vitally important, and (2) it could be turned off. The reputation was undeserved. It still tends to drag the system down more than I like, though, so I moved on. I tried a few other programs but settled on ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite. Their free version has always been a piece of junk, but their commercial version now sits atop a number of reviewer's lists. It's all three programs in one, and while it monitors the entire system in real-time, it does a much less intrusive job of it than BitDefender. I'll include some setup notes below. Again, at this point in time the most dangerous thing out there are keyloggers, and for that you need a dedicated anti-spyware program, not just the anti-virus program you might be running now. If you don't want to scrap your whole system and go with ZoneAlarm, I'd strongly suggest you pick up SpySweeper. One other program that should be mentioned is Microsoft's Malicious Spyware Removal Tool. Their monthly version is picked up via Windows Update (Tools Menu in your browser). If you don't have your Windows Updates turned on, and for some reason you don't want to install any of the other updates, you should at least install the Spyware Removal Tool. And, of course, all of your security programs should have their 'live update' feature turned on, since it's the newest stuff that's making the rounds and should be your biggest worry. Also on the subject of online security:
There's an immense gulf between having your system go up in flames because some virus exploded, and sending your keystrokes off into the Great Beyond. The rules have changed. Before, it was just the cost of repair. Now, it could be the cost of your entire bank account, so please take precautions. Update I did something interesting the other day. I first disconnected my hard drives and fired up a spare drive with just Norton Anti-Virus and Zone Alarm on it. I then went to the 'binaries' section of Usenet and started downloading every anti-virus/spyware program in site. Or sight. I also downloaded 'keygen' programs (programs that generate the serial number for a commercial program), hacker programs, cracker programs, and other kewl programs. Roughly 75% of them were infested. What's applicable here is that Norton actually did a slightly better job than Zone Alarm at phishing out the bad boys. In one folder, about ten different downloads of anti-virus programs, Norton found 7 baddies and Zone found 6. In another test, Norton found 5 and Zone found 4. Otherwise, they were even-up. I'm still using Zone because I'd rather take the slight extra chance and not have my system feel 'draggy', but I point it out for evaluation purposes. There's usually a slight trade-off in the programs, which is why the reviews and their charts are handy. One program might be slightly better at detecting malevolent web sites, another might be slightly better at scanning downloads, and another might be slightly better with its in-depth system scan. How quickly the home site updates its datafiles is also a factor, since, as noted above, it's the new kids that'll be the ones that get ya. Setting Up ZoneAlarm Let's run through the settings: — Firewall/Main: Make sure both are set to 'High'. Note: If you're using the 'Maximum' setting so it notifies you of everything, it actually means everything, not just programs trying to access the Internet. It'll also notify you when certain programs try to access other system files on the computer. Normally, this is perfectly okay and you'd tell it to 'Remember this setting' and 'Allow' it. When it comes to a program trying to access the Internet, you'd normally deny it unless the program actually needs to access it as part of its function. — Program Control/Programs: This is a listing of every program that's tried to access the 'Net (or other system files), and how ZoneAlarm is treating it. If you're not sure about some entry, just click on it with the right mouse button and 'remove' it. The next time whatever it is tries to access the 'Net, ZoneAlarm will pop open (assuming you have it set to 'Max' and 'Manual', above) and you can decide then. If you want to clean the slate and start all over, highlight the first entry, hold down the Shift key, highlight the last entry and remove them all at once. — Anti-Virus/Main: Both of these should be on, of course. Click on 'Advanced Options': — Scan Schedule: I like scanning things myself so I turned off the two automatic scans. — Scan Targets: This is where you tell it which drives to scan so you can remove any drives that are just storage (after perhaps scanning them once). — Automatic Treatment: I have it 'alert me', just so I'll know something nefarious has occurred. — Email Protection: I turned off the junk filter because it put a big space-wasting tool bar in Outlook Express, and most of the big providers (Verizon, Roadrunner, Gmail, Hotmail, etc) do a great job of filtering spam. And congrats on a smart purchase. As I said, a number of reviewers thought this thing was tops. It's working perfectly on my end, should do the same for you.
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Nice pic. Great timing, doc, was just going to get a grip on my system after a buddy got bit bigtime. ZoneAlarm sounds like the way to go and thanks for the research. I've read good things about it.
Nice rundown, Doc M. I've been using ZoneAlarm for a year or so, never a problem. Didn't know about Spysweeper, tho, so I'l pass that along to some people I know who want just an antispy program.
I used Zone Alarm for years... the paid version, and liked it a lot. But my ISP now offerers McAfee for free. So I switched. It seems to work okay in the sense that I haven't been bitten as yet, as far as I know. But the full system scans take forever. I'm talking hours. It works in the background but the performance hit is pretty bad.
I ran into this today at Flares. Built-in Windows commands to determine if a system has been hacked. I think I will play around with these commands this weekend... see if I can destroy my system myself. :) Good job. ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>To those who blog here: I am being threaten with being barred. So be it. If it happens know that it's been fun to spar with some, to enjoy others ,and being human to hold others in contempt. Habu You're a very demanding man Habu. That can be an admirable trait but also a giant pain in the ass at times for others. I sympathize and empathize with what you are doing here tonight. But I am going to stay neutral. Getting yourself banned over your principals... well those principals, and a buck twenty-five will get you a cup of joe. It is just a blog.
I will say that I think having Roger's post as the first one on the computer 'tips' section is wrong. It does not belong there. I am assuming that that is a simple filing mistake by the owner's of the blog and now that it has been brought to their attention it will be moved to a more suitable location. We'll see. LM
See my missive on the first thread with the dancers video.. The I would say this. If you don't stand for something you stand for nothing. There was a time I was encouraged to write in the manner I wanted..no more.. and never forget Sir Thomas More was beheaded for keeping true to his principles, which were correct but unpopular with the King Henry VIII. There's always a price to pay in not yielding to tyrants. In this country today too many are willing to pay while others will not yield. You're a warrior so I know you understand. I did see that missive H. And I do understand. Completely. I said that.
But this blog is not More standing before the King. Martyrs sometimes ignite fire... other times smolder alone. Pick your battle man, it is up to you. But choose wisely. One note about SpySweeper is that it's real zealous (or is that jealous?) and is constantly jumping in during an installation because the setup program is trying to make some small change to the system. It's admirable, but pesky. If it's a program you trust, just turn SpySweeper off during the installation.
Luther: IIRC, the McAfee program got, like, slot #7 or so on a few lists, so it's probably holding its own. McAfee's scans have always been abysmally slow, and Norton's not much better. It shouldn't be sucking up much CPU power, though. If it is, open Task Manager and kick its priority down. And as far as blowing up your system, are you doing the image file routine as per the 'Backup' lesson? It's a wonderful feeling of impunity. System meltdown? Bring it on! Dang Doc... #7 ain't too good. Though it depends on the scale and the closeness I guess. Oh well, as I said, it's free. Good idea on the priority, I will have to play with that.
Me... 'Back up'... naw Doc, I'm one of those guys who tells everyone else to do it and then doesn't do it himself. Actually on the laptop... which due to circumstances is all that I am using at the moment... I don't have that much to worry about should I have a meltdown. On the desktop, I do use Acronis... I'm running two Sata 1's as well. Plus the burn to DVD. Lot's of backup there. I hadn't noticed the problem with the Tips page. Somehow the link is combining the two posts, and it certainly shouldn't. I checked the Tips page in the editor and it's as it should be. I'll mention it to BD.
Re: #7, be grateful it's on the list at all. I didn't see poor Norton anywhere. :) Oh, should have added. I use one of the Sata's for the system, the other for backup. Plus the DVD. I figure it would take a house fire to completely bring me down. Though I really should do off site storage... one can never be too paranoid. :)
Were you going to be talking about off site storage in a future article? I know there are quite a few options out there. Whoa... that is too bad about Norton. They should be embarrassed. First off, 'Tips' link is fixed. We aim t'please.
Second, Norton deserves whatever bad shit comes its way. Gory details available some other day when I have more time. I'm working on tomorrow's lesson at the moment. Third, they're not "off-site" devices; your computer is not a "site". They're external devices, meaning nothing more than they're outside of the tower. It probably doesn't deserve an entire lesson, but it would make for a good Computin' Tip. Want to collaborate on it with me? I could use your help. I don't stay up with the field at all. Good on the 'tips'. Thanks.
And of course Norton deserves whatever it gets. No argument there. Just another 'brand' that succumbed to competition. Perhaps relying on 'brand' more than product. Ah, definitions... my computer is a 'site' in my mind. So 'off site' in the sense that that my 'stuff' is stored on a server somewhere in a salt dome in Kansas? True, not an entire lesson, just worth a mention for those with multi-gigabytes of family pictures. Or some such. I'd be willing to do some research. Y'all should lighten up on Norton. How would YOU like to have Ralph Kramden yellin' at you all the time?
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I have had some experience in this area. I actually worked for one of the players in the spyware industry. They were some of the most incompetent people I worked with during my 45 year career in computers.
But that is not the point of my comment. I bank with Bank of America. On four occasions my debit card was compromised. On each occasion I received an e-mail from BOA noting unusual activity and urging me to call them. In each case they had put a hold on the transactions. They have apparently applied far more resources to control this problem than any of the software vendors could afford or understand. Roy,
I have had the same response from Wells Fargo when I made a purchase outside of my 'normal' limits. Some might see that as invasion... I see it as good programming. I see that after most of the day was done and nothing had been posted to this thread I added a picture in keeping with those that have appeared on this site previously. A bikini clad lass.
That posting was followed by a repose by Dr Merc on the thigh size of the femme de jour. I responded and both comments contained a mirthful insouciance. I promised the Dr I would attempt to find a more fulsome thigh for comparison. That was taken down and no record now exists of that exchange, which was, as stated the only exchange on here after the post had been up all day. It's good to see others joined in the threads theme. AVG seems to be discontinuing support for its free 7.5 today. The replacement is rumored to soak up enough resources to dim the lights. Since 1996 (-2007 with win95; currently with XP) virus detection has picked up exactly zero viruses for me, so I must have very benign web surfing habits. I'm thinking of just not using virus detection at all.
Reading mail only on remote machines may have helped. Nothing downloads any mail. Luther (and other interested parties - see below):
"Perhaps relying on 'brand' more than product." And pretty repackaging. When Norton 2007 came out, I did a somewhat exhaustive hex analysis of the basic utilities (WinDoc, DiskDoc, etc) and there was virtually zero difference between them and the 2000 versions (the ones I'd been using). But boy, that new interface sure looked slick! "I'd be willing to do some research." You're hired. While I have scads of general computer knowledge, I only stay up in the fields I'm interested in and don't have a clue what's going on in the world of external file storage. Here's the way I see it: - Do we assume from the top that external hard drives are the preferred method of storage, just because of their general reliability and speed, or is the subject open for debate? Is there a bigger chance of a hard drive failing than a disc going corrupt over time? - Could it be argued that discs are the better medium, in the sense that an external hard drive takes up table space, might die at any second from a small electronic component failing, takes up more system resources, etc, whereas a disc is just filed away on a shelf somewhere? And if it's really-really important, just make two backup discs in case one goes corrupt? - Flash sticks have made some pretty big leaps, size-wise, recently, but the question is one of permanence. Silicon chips are flaky by their very definition, and I wouldn't begin to trust one with anything important. But what do the studies show? If they've bridged some gap and they're now as reliable as disks and discs, then wouldn't they go to the top of the list because of their tiny size, much faster copying speeds than burning discs, and no cluttering up the system as with hard drives? And I won't prejudice the narrative by noting what I personally do. The assignment is to wrangle the above three sections into submission and come out with a winner. We need facts and we need testimonials. Everyone is welcome to play, of course. JLW? Ron? Others? Personal experiences are particularly insightful because it's the real-life angle that makes for a good evaluation. There's always a real-life snag somewhere that the reviews don't cover. Maybe external hard drives become notoriously noisy and whiny over time? Maybe discs sound great by the specs but people end up not backing things up because the dang things take so long to burn, so it would be bad advice on our part to recommend them? Maybe flash sticks have a great reliability record as long as they're kept in a cool, dry place, but as soon as you set it on the sunny window sill for a minute because your hands are full and suddenly your cellphone rings, poof!, there goes your life's work? Let the challengers enter the ring! CLANG! I gotta question about phishing. How do you know it's NOT your bank?
I'm an overbackup person. Every night my computer cpio's any changed C: personal data files to two other cheapo laptops; every month I write a CDROM of the data files. Now and then I copy newer data files to a USB drive. Every 3 months I copy the USB drive onto one of three other USB drives otherwise unused.
It's not a matter of if your HD will crash but when. On the other hand, a corrupted file is almost worse, which means you don't want to overwrite every backup all the time. There used to be a rotation schedule you could use for which of N tapes you ran nightly backups on, to always have frequent recent backups but also a few really old copies of things, in case a file unnoticed had become corrupted. This is rendered somewhat unnecessary now by cheap permanent CD backups. Just save them all. Also notice that a whole cheapo laptop today comes with a HD and doesn't cost that much more than the HD. (I run XP but with Cygwin) doogs - Er, good question. The only thing we know for sure is that a bank will never ask you to 'verify' anything important via email.
Ron - My experience in the video field isn't that files go corrupt, but that some ditzy program will screw up some other program that you may only use every six months. So I agree with keeping the old and ultra-old backup files around, but I like going the whole-disk route, not just updated files. Many years ago when I had several accounts I would use Pegasus email to manage them. Also worked well with lists.
Maybe they stripped the features, since I switched to gmail. I have not had issues since it is pretty easy to log in and out of gmail. or have firefox and Explorer up at the same time with the two different accounts open. But you might want to check it out. Hmm seems like this blog doesn't like URLS so go to pmail adding the traditional internet prefix and postfix. |
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