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Sunday, February 11. 2007
But people want easy ways to feel virtuous, which is "nice" but not always wise. But don't take that simple pleasure away from them, right? Even if it wastes oil to recycle? And costs them money - for nothing? Pure self-deception. But people will do anything easy to feel self-satisfaction.
The only thing that benefits from recycling are the garbage companies that feed off the government subsidies.
It's about the same sort of genius concept as biofuels, which require more energy to produce than they contain - and raise the price of staples in poor parts of the world, and destroy forests by subsidizing non-market-based farming in sensitive areas. But it does take money from the Middle East and from Chavez, which is good. I am going to buy a hybrid, but not to please the Greenies.
I will put a bumper sticker on it: Drive a Hybrid: Take a Bomb from a Moslem. Or maybe: Screw Chavez: Drive a Hybrid. Or maybe both. To deprive these folks of income is the least I can do for the earth.
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So I suppose just because some knobs on the telly say its stupid, that better educated public servants, elected by their parties and bound by I-N-T-E-R-N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L treaties should just say "oh, bother! to hell with recycling!" Out of sight, out of mind.
How come you yanks fawn over two unlettered buffoons? Why does not Bill Mahr or Sean Pens more articulate arguments not receive equal playing time in your brains? Is it because it doesn't allow you to continue greedy and lazy lifestyles? Is it because you'd have to give more money for the health of your society instead of purchasing a BARB-BIE-QU?
Im sure the gent who thinks himself a plush spy plane will have an explanation: kill muslims!
If your not peerage your steerage.
Kindly go below deck where the sight and smell of your class will not be noticed.
Bottled water! What greenie doesn't tote around his/her own preciousious body's special drinking water? Does it matter that the tap furnishes the same thing, and that it needs no non-degradable petroleum-based plastic bottle, which has previously been trucked/trained/shipped from all over the world to the local grocery store, from whence it still yet needs retrieval by an automobile steered thereto by the thirsty end-user? And then the empty, what happens to the empty, how much does that cost the enviroment?
"Evian" is "naive" spelled backwards.
I have thought of ways to argue with the things habu said in our paper. But reflection showed me that he is right and I have been entirely wrong in beleiving that the socialist way is the answer.
How are we to pay for all the free services we demand? What self worth would come to us. No Habu was right.
"Better-educated public servants"? Hahahaha.
Find one "public servant" who is a) better educated than me and, b) has a true "servant" attitude.
Politicians are 93.2% narcissistic people who couldn't do anything else.
You and I both know at least one public servant (okay, not elected) whom some would consider to have been as well educated as you are, who is honest, hard-working and believes in serving others. Ransack your brain. Hint: she likes Monty Python. Some public servants took the only job they could get at the time, and dedicate themselves to it. The public is getting them for 10 cents on the dollar. Such sweeping generalizations might hurt the feelings of someone you know. Fortunately, she has the hide of a rhino after hearing years of sneers about people working in government.
I read that thread, TSW, and though I don't agree with the content of your posts, they are creative and make for enjoyable reading. Sense of humor is a great thing to have--i mean that as a compliment, not as sarcasm re your politics.
Agree, BD. If you like your Public Service, then go ahead and double the pay and halve the output of your private services, too.
We recycle. The wife has found a handy way to add a little flower and raisins to leeched newspaper and come up with some dandy survival cookies.
Junior learned the pioneer way of using "chips" as fuel and now powers his grow light with electricity generated thru a boiler. His yield has not faltered.
Buffy collects tin cans and has learned that if she takes a bit of dirt and puts it in the can before crushing it she can increase her take by abour 17%.
TSW must have had the same feeling i did after that pranging Habu gave us over our lame and dead end socialist ideas.
Habu is very correct and we SSP members look foolish.
Mr. Larsen beware of splitting.
Me. too, BD. Even bagpipes--no joke--swear it--the sound is as no other, perfectly evokes them mist-covered highlands--of the mind, as well as I'm sure the terra firma actual.
I am an Iranian. Mr. Habu scolded me and warned me to begin digging a deep hole because the US was to bomb us.
I have been at work now for three days. We have drawn water from the well and put it in goat bladders. We have dried goat to eat. We will defeat you.
Mr. Habu is strong but he cannot defeat us. I hope.
Malky, that was a bit obscure--'splitting" as in --? If you refer to clinical schizophrenia, parts of me objects.
Faramars, we don't want bomb you, we want you to quit bombing us.
Did not initiate with first post..pick a name and have a go...the strokes should start shortly..dain bramage
Oh. No, not me. This is the only site I've ever used pseudonyms--and then, for meaningless joke posts. I've been Elmer Turd, Prince Charles, Fatuous Preacher, a couple others I don't recall.
I did note the multiple accusations @ TS site that Habu may be a paid agent provocateur. I have to say, that's absurd--he would have a website and be ginning traffic, not lollygagging in a few comments sections.
Well, well, well, look at all the supposed libertarians fascistically denying my RIGHT to choose whatever water I want.
What's wrong with bottled water? Am I going to go into Starbucks and drink from their TAP? Only if I want Bush's arsenic, lol. Maybe it'd improve the national testing scores through hormesis?
And just for the record, Tony Blair has 3 degrees, including a law degree.
The much maligned George Soros has a PhD in philosophy, one of the rarest degrees in the world.
My favorite part of the whloe business is that Iron Eyes Cody is actually Sicilian. His real name is Espera De Corti.
His mother's maiden name, translated into english, means "rocksalt."
William, pray drink all the bottled water you want. My point was to the hypocrisy of many so-called greenies.
I find it a bit baffling that you would admire Mr. Soros after what he did--for his own gain--to the BOE & the British Pound.
Tony Blair in the fullness of history will be seen as a great & courageous leader. It doesn't matter anymore what dhimmies say about him--it's irrelevant anymore; he's what we call a 'lame duck' now.
habu, no, more like 4x6, too little here, too much there--LOL
Impute, infer, hmm...the identity games are confusing--so I just play along.
Anyway, William, if you're a champion of the 'little guy' (as socialists must be) then you should be appalled--angry--at what Mr. Soros has done to the Pound-denominated assets of just those 'little people' who could least afford to enrich the Mr. Soros machine.
Our family tried to recycle but after the third generation the eyes started getting too close together and the ears too big, so we joined up with the clan in Edinclough and soon eveybody was walking upright again.
George Soros is the constantine of the athiests. He'll unite us and make Atheism strong throughout England and America and beyond.
The trouble will be converting India though China will be immensely helpful.
We will be on our way in an important step in human history: when humanity begins to accept that earth is more important than heaven.
McDungberry, perhaps you should stick with "unicycling" if you get my drift.
Henry, at what point the Sorosians have to throw in the towel and just kill all the recalcitrants?
As you burn and raze, will you be saying "Sorry, but it IS for your own good, you know" ?
Well, the plague did wonders for Europe before. Whole new cities were built after WWII. It would be patently illogical to suggest that people dying or being sad impedes progress.
In Britain, we still have within generational memory the fear of right-wing bombs crashing down on us from above. Some say America never had such experiences and only knows the click and clack of a factory. That would explain why they cherish war and lies as part of their faith. Like your ahistorical mel gibson The Patriot and that movie that claimed credit for cracking the enigma code. British brains did that, thank you very much.
ANd with any luck, british brains can take a crack at oppressed and furious Muslims, who no doubt are more worried than the rest of us about global warming.
And if you ever talk to a Muslim, they will tell you their fears of bad weather pissing down on their families back home. Of course, this wouldn't concern you because you have tap water and Anna Nicole Smith, a true Jezebel if there ever was one.
Mr. Soros, champion of confiscatory taxation of the people who create new wealth, runs his own hedge funds, and keeps his own fortune, safe in a Caribbean tax haven (look it up).
Oh, yes, he pays a little fig-leaf US income tax on his own self-set "salary".
And his socialist-advocacy lobbying Foundations are not only tax-exempt but expert in procuring grant money from the American taxpayers he is using to manipulate themselves into robbing themselves into their own servitude--for the greater power of the international one-world elite, which he calls "The People".
"The People" of Soros is his term for what is actually the 'old-wealth' which seeks to maintain its relative position against the 'new-wealth'.
'New wealth', the force defined and championed by Ronald Reagan, against the assault of Sorosianism in the dupe-form of Jimmy Carter.
"The people", if the term is laboriously salvaged from Soros-speak and restored to actual English-language meaning, are nothing except units of transaction--and voters.
Only "God" says "the people" are anything more.
Henry, if we were all out hoeing potatoes, or pursuing a hare for the daily meal, we would have little time to fret so over Anna Nicole Smith, eh wot?
Mr. Soros agrees, we should all be too busy aquiring the basics, and foever too tired and demoralized, to imagine different ways of being.
And those Blitz-bombs fell from the left, not the right. Don't listen to Lenin on that--he had a vested interest.
That stupid movie didn't claim "Enigma" BTW--only that an American movie star captured the German sub with the machine which enabled the Bletchley Park decoding.
Well Henry as I said in the pages of the Scotsman the USA didn't give into Htler, you did. You also signed away the freedom of sovereign nations (that you had no right to do) to appease Hitler. We are made of sterner stuff.
And on the tpic of the Enigma. Well if the Poles hadn't memorized the building of the "box" you Brits would never have had a clue. And even with all that information you still needed American money,arms, and men to get the job done. Tell me how Narvik went fro you chaps? Or perhaps opine on Monty's "Operation Market Garden" brainfart.
So Henry just sit back and become a dhimmi, it's really not that far from socialism and you'll still be able to beat you spouse, or three.
Buddy, a FINE tribute to Anna Nicole Smith..
Thanks--and i want to rec' the Penn & Teller video. It's HILARIOUS, and full of info, too. A most extremely entertaining demolition of the whole Hysteria Bombast Bomb the you-know-who bunch has dropped on us. I watched some of the UN/IPP Report scientists speak to the congress a few days ago, and if you believe as I do that a whole lot shows up in demeanor--well, this bunch looked and talked like all those weasels we used to see standing behind Brezhnev and Andropov in the newsreels.
The Penn and Teller piece is PRICELESS. I don't want to give any of it away but about five to seven minutes into it in suburban LA I was on the floor, crying in hilarity.
Thank you for some of the best laughter I've had in a long time with that Penn and Teller piece.
My wife is a recycler and thinks I'm a neanderthal for refusing to comply.
I showed here the flick. I don't think she's a recycler any more.
You do realize Penn and Teller probably put people into psychotherapy over that piece. the shrinks have to love them..
It should be mandatory viewing. The government should send you that on a CD with your tax info papers.
The interviews with the greenie spokesperson were just too funny.
The petition to ban water! They were signing up in droves.
The girl that spun hard numbers on species-loss until gently challenged, who then said, "well, hard numbers are hard to come by".
All of it--P&T just poked a camera into the parade and let it disgrace itself.
What's scary is how quickly those people could become Hitler Youth.
I DEMAND A TOTAL BAN ON DI-HYDROGEN OXIDE!!!!!
see it on Penn and Teller. yes, ban water and the airheads just signed away.....
"well if I'm gonna die for a word, make mine poon tang"
Full Metal Jacket
Full Metal Jacket--if you haven't seen this Kubrick masterpiece, do, do.
I see the Penn-Teller video has been withdrawn. I wish there was something available withe the factual content sans all the gratuitous foul language.