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Saturday, November 5. 2022Re affirmative action
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This is simply a mechanism whereby unqualified non-whites can be put in positions of power over white people. To the satanic vermin running this country, this is justice.
I wouldn't call most of the bien-pensant fools going along with this "satanic".
We have seen that most of the Boomers and Millenials are feckless, unserious, and narcissistic. Not to care whether the professional class is in fact qualified, not to understand why excellence and achveivement must be encouraged and rewarded, not to think in the long term - not to think of anything but my feelings and my social status... Yes there is a malevalent hard core of Marxists. But these academic hangers-on? The folks too stupid to understand that they will be the first/second to be lined up against the wall? Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Malice is being taught. I would encourage to to look around and see what is going on in this country right now.
It it not necessary to teach malice, or give instruction in tribal suspicion of the "other".
It IS necessary to teach - and demonstrate - the brotherhood and equality that stem from Judeo-Christian monotheism, and form the bedrock of modern Democracy. Judeo and Christian are moral opposites. This is why there is no such thing as a "Judeo-Christian" synagogue. Malice is being systematically taught at every level of education in this country. If you're unaware of this glaringly obvious fact, do a tiny bit of research. The new religion is vitriolic hatred of white people and it is policy across all spectra of American society. It is so brazen that the subhuman vermin at the Jewish version of the KKK, the ADL, say without irony that "It's Okay To Be White" is hate speech.
Brotherhood? The socialist/progressive/marxist/democrat university system will never quit whining about the loss of affirmative action (quotas) as that was there cheap and easy out to promote equal outcomes regardless of sex or race. It was always meant as a permanent solution to their obvious hatred of a meritocracy of the productive. It has created grotesque debt and declining outcomes for students that are in over their head but at the same time creating numerous employment opportunities for a bloated staff that produces nothing useful for the student. It is past time for quotas to end. If the university system cannot adapt to that reality, then it is past time to end the student loan program.
Can somebody point me to where the 'harms of standardized testing' are explained in verifiable and repeatable detail?
The "harm" is that people too stupid to score well on these tests don't score well on these tests and no amount of burned money can change that, so they lie and say the test is the problem...not the people taking them.
We live in a very stupid time. Nothing will change.
The use of 'proxies for race' in admissions has been perfected in the University of California system. It is currently in place and operational, too, in the Ivies. I think it has also infected Federal Hiring guidelines, such as infrastructure contracting. Segregated 'Flagship Campuses' flying tattered old flags, here we come! The right way to accomplish what the affirmative action supporters claim to want is to make a greater effort to insure that all children and especially children who's home life is less than supportive, get a good education in K-12. Keep the SAT and high admission standards but prepare the students better.
Children with an IQ of 80 are immune to education. The average negro adult in this country reads at about a fourth grade level. That is simply nature in action.
They are immune to our current education model. They can easily learn a trade.
The problem with our education model is that it is set up to best accommodate average girls. It is decidedly anti-male and simply fails to provide a proper education to people who are well above or below average. If elite schools do not discriminate in favor of blacks and Hispanics, then they will only constitute about 1% of the enrollment at those schools. Since the real function of elite schools is to network the next generation of the Ruling Class, that means blacks and Hispanics will be effectively excluded from the Ruling Class. The current severe alienation of the black underclass will then spread to all blacks, and even many Hispanics, since they will have no stake in America. Is that what we want? 50 million blacks and 50 million Hispanics who hate this country?
Theory and ideology are fine in their place, but what we want is a society in which everyone (or most) feel welcome and are supportive of thw whole project. If a third of the US hates it, we have no future. I support affirmative action. Do you think that white people associate themselves with people who go to elite schools because they are white? This is not how white people view the world.
Everyone is effectively excluded from what you describe as the Ruling Class. Race has nothing to do with it. I sympathize with your argument but not your conclusion. Would you want to be operated on by someone who "failed" medical school but was pushed through because they were a POC?
I would also say that this problem is far less prevalent for Hispanics. The Hispanic stats are weighted by recent immigrants from countries where the education system was below par or the individuals (the immigrants) are self selected because they dropped out of school and can't find a decent job immigration looks better than staying in their own country. It would be illustrative to apply affirmative action across the board in sports. Only 6% of players could be black men, 6% hispanic, 6% Asian the rest white. Imagine the outrage in the POC community. The problem is that it is impossible to square the circle of meritocracy versus egalitarianism. If an applicant cannot do college-level work, admitting him anyway accomplishes nothing: he still won't learn anything. If the only, or main, purpose of college is to become credentialed and to make influential friends, I can see the motivation for affirmative action, though it is explicitly racist and clearly implies that the minority candidates cannot do the work (which they frequently cannot). On the other hand, if the purpose of college is to prepare one with the knowledge and skills for a technical or professional career, AA is clearly a self-destructive policy. People are already rightfully leery when they come across a minority physician, airplane pilot, or engineer, or attorney-- is he here because he's good, or because he has a tan? That's a side effect that well-intentioned AA supporters rarely acknowledge. We need to take the university industry off its pedestal of glory and see it for what it is, job training. For example, I could never be admitted to Juilliard or Curtis because I have no talent for musical performance. A professional musician has virtually no chance of getting a steady orchestra job without going to one of these schools. This does not make me feel bad; I am not so foolish as to want to do something that I cannot. In the same way, why don't we let minority youngsters decide for themselves what they want to do with their lives, rather than trying to shoehorn them into a university system where they may not fit too well?
What you support is evil and your rationale is no less evil. You seek the destruction of America through purposely elevating the dumbest goddam people in America to positions of power.
Will you be proud of yourself when you no longer have indoor plumbing? There are plenty of other routes to power and influence - including rolling up your sleeves and starting a business.
Before all this folderol there was a black upper class of doctors, engineers, lawyers, and businessmen. Martin Luther King was from that class. Go look up what Diana Ross's two sisters made of themselves - raised in an apartment in the projects. Same success story as other minority groups. Ahhhh but back then most blacks were raised in a stable family with a working father. No welfare. Maybe bringing back the black family - specifically, the black father - will do more to improve acheivement, without the passive-aggressive booby-trap non-solution of affirmative action - which, like all leftie schemes, perpetuates the problem it claims to be relieving. The things you cite are products of segregation. Desegregation did more damage to the black community than welfare.
"Affirmative action" is code word for keeping the masses of Americans of European descent out of the halls of power. Who is in favor of it, you ask? Certainly the currently disadvantaged non-Europeans, whether the blacks whose presence here was not of their own volition (and who have resented that fact ever since) and those who have lately been allowed to settle here. They came here for "a better life" and what easier path to that end than dispossessing those who were here already and stealing their piece of the American Pie? But note well who else favors it; the currently self-satisfied residents of the upper stories of the academic ivory tower and the patrician class, most of whom achieved their position by dint of some other kind of favoritism, whether family ties or wealth acquired by some remote ancestor. What better way of keeping their favored position than by assuring that those who come after them will lack the necessary intellectual capacity to usurp their status? They wish for a world of inequality where they sit atop the pyramid and control access to their realm. Meanwhile the better equipped sons and daughters of middle America, whose forebears built this juggernaut of an economy are kept out in favor of a less qualified supplicant with the right skin color. It can only be hoped and prayed for that this rotten system is expunged from our body politic at long last. Sixty years of living the "equality" lie is enough. Three generations of failed "affirmative action" is sufficient to put paid to the myth that equality can be achieved simply by pushing the un- and underqualifed into positions of leadership.
Of course there are proxies for race, if the purpose is not to establish racial quotas but to ensure that everyone has a fair sho regardless of race. An admissions system can very easily take into account any good-faith subjective conviction about how a particular background may have produced testing results that obscured real underlying ability: poverty, unsupportive environment, etc.
This approach isn't foolproof, as we may find that lots of people we fervently wish could do better in a more supportive environment in fact simply lack the horsepower, but at least it beats the more virulent forms of racism inherent in quota systems. In the past, such an approach might have broken down barriers that kept, for instance, Jews and women out of academic programs in which they were capable of excelling. But for Pete's sake let's quit pretending it's a good idea to try to make start basketball players out of short human beings. That's not justice, it's just dumb. I wouldn't want to be on a plane piloted by an AA hire. I suspect most people wouldn't.
In Africa the black passengers when boarding the airplane check the cockpit and if the pilot is black they disembark and wait for the next plane. This is a fact!
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