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Apparently, Seattle is now epicenter of the revolution which we have all waited breathlessly for. The NYTimes has headlines saying it's "Free Food, Free Speech and Free of Police", which I suppose is a start. We are expecting great things from these people. 'New ideas' we've never seen before. Lovely. Maybe the food is 'free', though nothing is ever free, and we certainly know the speech is only free if you agree with them. But I'm fairly certain the area is free of police. For now.

Remember a few years ago at Malheur, and those supposed 'right-wing extremist' loony birds were roundly misrepresented by the press? Yeah, me either. Didn't happen. The Feds didn't kill anyone there, either.

I'm sure this Seattle experiment will go really well. Just like Christiana did originally (cough, cough).

By the way, can I just also mention how proud I am of my alma mater's devotion to presenting fact-based opinions and respecting free speech? We're leading the way! Future donations on my part will not be part of the plan. I can show my point of view by withholding money.

Posted by Bulldog in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects, Politics at 13:07 | Comments (26) | Trackbacks (0)

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everything is free that you steal. whats wrong with you.

#1 talgus on 2020-06-11 13:27 (Reply)

"...Future donations on my part will not be part of the plan. I can show my point of view by withholding money."

Good idea, and just to make sure they don't miss your point, send them a letter explaining why they have lost you as a donor and what it would take to get you back.

Probably won't do a scrap of good, but it's the only way to register disagreement with the organization's behavior. Who knows? If they get a lot more such letters, it might make a small dent in their self-satisfaction.

And you can bet that someone(s) in the organization who doesn't agree with the policy but needs their job will read it and be heartened by it.

#2 PubliusII on 2020-06-11 13:28 (Reply)

I considered that.
But Doxing is a real problem, and in today's world there are some opinions you're not allowed to hold publicly or (as the article shows) it WILL cost you your job.

#2.1 Bulldog on 2020-06-11 13:36 (Reply)

Bulldog, as you know, can't spell sucks without SU. I considered sending the Law College Dean my diploma back after he posted a racist rant by his son on LinkedIn. But I agree, doxing is a problem. I work for myself, but dont need the jerks outside my house.

#2.1.1 Tonyp (Link) on 2020-06-11 17:21 (Reply)

I understand — my sympathies.

#2.1.2 PubliusII on 2020-06-11 21:00 (Reply)

Sorry I get bulldog and bird dog mixed up. One of you was sick and I was asking if you are feeling better in the last thread

#3 Peter on 2020-06-11 13:38 (Reply)

That was me, and doing quite well now, thank you!

#3.1 Bulldog on 2020-06-11 15:05 (Reply)

Seattle 'autonomous zone' has armed guards, local businesses being threatened with extortion, police say

QUOTE:

“We’ve heard, anecdotally, reports of citizens and businesses being asked to pay a fee to operate within this area. This is the crime of extortion. If anyone has been subjected to this, we need them to call 911,” Assistant Chief of Police Deanna Nollette said on Wednesday.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-protests-armed-guards-local-businesses-extortion

#4 feeblemind on 2020-06-11 14:36 (Reply)

Call 911? Oh, that'll... help. I'm sure the police will be right on it.

Sadly, this is an example of having to be very careful what you wish for - because you may get it.

#4.1 JLawson on 2020-06-11 14:59 (Reply)

There’s an effort to get me fired at Cornell for criticizing the Black Lives Matter Movement

Or if not fired, at least publicly denounced by the law school. Student groups plan to demand the law school “critically examine the views of the people they employ as professors of the law.”

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/theres-an-effort-to-get-me-fired-at-cornell-for-criticizing-the-black-lives-matter-movement/#more-320818

As you say, Bulldog, holding the wrong opinions can cost you your job. Hopefully Jacobson hangs on. We'll see.

#5 feeblemind on 2020-06-11 14:51 (Reply)

It isn't easy being a big city mayor, it's harder if you are stupid and your claim to fame is being a self serving pompous gas bag.
Meanwhile, my sister reports, Chicago has been crossed off of some "welcome" signs, and replaced with Newark or Detroit; not as creative as Seattle, I guess.
Chicago was on a downward spiral after the 60s riots. Richard M Daley did manage to slow it down and attract people back to the city. But, he was an old time pol, the kind that knew you had to have a thriving economy to generate revenues. I'm thinking that the future is not very bright for urban areas. Even if companies don't pull out all together, I can't see them upgrading, expanding, or hiring either. If you are in commercial real estate in those areas, you're screwed.

#6 Exasperated on 2020-06-11 14:56 (Reply)

The cities are going to suffer badly, I think that's a given...

Already, many of my NYC friends are talking of buying in suburbs. Should be good for my property value...

However 'edge cities' should do well, too. Hoboken, for example, while not a TRUE 'edge city' is still fairly well run and has a cohesive and involved population. Despite being across the river from NYC, it's had protests but almost none of the violence or looting.
I label it an 'edge city' because there are many like it. Small cities next to much larger ones, which used to have big factories or businesses and are now mainly residential but starting to attract business again, because the big cities are so badly managed.

The Democrats have really screwed the pooch. Their mismanagement of cities becomes more evident by the day - but Democrats simply don't see it...

#6.1 Bulldog on 2020-06-11 15:11 (Reply)

Sheesh, I looked up the demographics of Hoboken. I was shocked.

#6.1.1 Exasperated on 2020-06-11 15:51 (Reply)

Pretty astounding, huh?

It's a gorgeous town, well situated, and (to a smaller degree than in the past) still moderately Mob-run.

I lived there in the 80's and early 90's and Mob presence was still large. Less so now. But the Hoboken residents, of all stripes, are proud to NOT be New Yorkers. Those who are lifetime residents are "B&R" (born and raised) and after some problems in the 80's with Yuppies like me, they've come to a really good place.

But there are probably 10 towns along the Hudson that aren't too dissimilar, with varying degrees of livability.

#6.1.1.1 Bulldog on 2020-06-11 16:35 (Reply)

You would be shocked by the real estate prices too!!

#6.1.1.2 m on 2020-06-11 16:39 (Reply)

For Chicago I rather think that the Caterpillar company is the canary in the coal mine.

#6.2 indyjonesouthere on 2020-06-12 12:45 (Reply)

Well, it's a sign of the 'materialistic gratification' times I guess. Back in the idealistic 60's it was all about Free Sex.

#7 Aggie on 2020-06-11 16:13 (Reply)

they already have a new warlord, and a wall

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/bryan-preston/2020/06/11/seattles-chaz-gains-first-feudal-warlord-takes-steps-to-become-rogue-state-n516917

And the warlord, who has referred to himself as police beat up some people...they've already got police brutality.

The Democrat mayor and governor are just pretending nothing is going on, early reporters gushed about how beautiful this was, but that's fading very very fast.

I think Trump is letting it go for a while

#8 jay on 2020-06-11 16:35 (Reply)

never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.....

#8.1 m on 2020-06-11 16:41 (Reply)

It's Occupy #2. And will turn out the same way.
Rapes. Murders. Assaults.

Let it burn.

#9 jimg on 2020-06-11 17:07 (Reply)

Did you forget about Robert LaVoy Finicum

#10 rick9911 on 2020-06-11 20:11 (Reply)

No I didn't. I was being facetious.

#10.1 Bulldog on 2020-06-11 21:34 (Reply)

The riots and looting . . .

In America's history their have been worse riots. The riots will burn themselves out eventually. We will leave them behind.

What's so weird this time is the politicians being openly on the side of the rioters. Parallel-ling all this are the people losing their jobs through innocuous comments on the internet and corporations rushing to get behind the 'protestors' lest they be accused of racism.

It's surreal and one wonders how much longer it will go on? It shows no signs of stopping. The entire cancel movement seems to be rolling along and gathering speed.

Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine such a phenomenon sweeping the land.

It's spooky when one thinks about it, and it seems unlikely we are leaving this behind anytime soon.

#11 feeblemind on 2020-06-11 22:36 (Reply)

The six blocks occupied on Seattle's Capitol Hill disrupted some of the homeless squatting in the area, but they were kindly invited to share. Shortly, the occupiers were asking for contributions of food (preferably vegan) because the homeless had eaten all of their food.
It was considered to remind them that if they were going to secede they would have to negotiate with President Trump, but they remained unconcerned. They have added armed guards, but what has happened to the ordinary residents of the six block new territory remains unknown.

#12 The Elephant's Child (Link) on 2020-06-12 00:16 (Reply)

"but what has happened to the ordinary residents of the six block new territory remains unknown."

Hmm, good question.

Maybe after the new lords ran out of food they simply ate the ordinary residents.

#12.1 charles on 2020-06-12 22:16 (Reply)

Good news, if true, the Portland commune has collapsed.
As a trend Chaz was scary, as an incident it couldn't happen to a more deserving place.

The first anarchist commune was at Munster about 1550, but there's little to read about it, in English anyway.

The place of the most of these communes is Paris; but every time we went to France, Paris just never made the itinerary.

#13 SF jeff on 2020-06-12 00:48 (Reply)

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