We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
If there is one political theme here at Maggie's, it is distrust of the power and of the wisdom of the state. Especially, the remote governmental powers. We have faith in the ability of the individual citizen to make his own choices and decisions according to his own lights. We do believe in collectivism, of the voluntary sort.
Regarding close-up government, in my town, you can walk into our First Selectman's office (if you bring a Starbucks for her with you) or Second Selectman's office, and chat about anything for a bit. They only work 9-3, so you have to bear that in mind. If somebody else is there too, you all chat together. That works for me. We're a small town.
What if your kid is too skinny? What if she's an early anorectically-minded girl who nibbles on lettuce and is driving you to exasperation? Should that 14 year-old be taken from you while you are charged with felony child-neglect?
I hear all of these stories. Life is full of all sorts of stories. I tend to fall on the freedom side of things. It's messy and things go wrong, but that's the way life is. Freedom to screw up is the closest to utopia we're gonna get.
And, if we are to see government control of medical care, what if I am too fat for their cost statistics? Can they take me away from me?
No, they can't take you away from you. But Michelle O. will make you put down the Grande Mocha Frappucino and make sure you're munching on some fresh, organic carrots from her garden. Or preferably your garden. Because she can make you do that. Just by looking at you.
As long as they don't take YOU from US, Barrister...Things would be so dull.
In other news, there are certainly states that do not want to take kids from their parents, however inept some (of us...) may be. For one, it is too expensive. And it tends to have poor outcomes. The trend is to try to keep kids with the families, even when the families have issues, sometimes through other types of interventions or supports.
I have a cousin who was a foster mother. The goal was always to return the children to their natural parent or natural family.
When you heard some of the stories, you wondered why that goal was ever set in stone. Seriously, why would you spend years keeping a kid in foster care hoping its mother would finally get off crack, heroin, or whatever else caused the parent to have the child taken in the first place?
Now it could be possible to remove children from their obese parents because it's an 'unfit environment'. But not to worry, we'll have them back once you've dropped the Twinkies and starting eating celery and jogging 5 miles a day.
"And, if we are to see government control of medical care, what if I am too fat for their cost statistics? Can they take me away from me?"
Well, not "me" - but treatment. At least, the UK's NHS has - from a certain BMI [*spit*] up, it will not honor a doctor's recommendation for hospitalisation unless accompanied by an existent weigh-loss plan and proof you have actually started to lose weight. This is mostly for things where surgeons may have trouble shoving the fat around, like knee or hip replacement. Or cardiovascular, such as an arterial bypass. Or...
While the children thing does not directly affect me, I have followed a few posts (Englishman's Castle, Food and Health Skeptic, others) about one case. Most of a family's kids were morbidly obese¹. Family sought help. People sent to home to supervise meals and such - no change. Kids removed to care/foster home. Still no change. Visits by parents cut from free access to occasional supervised-only visits. STILL no improvement. By that point, to anyone but a bureaucrat it is obvious that there is a real problem - and it is not the parents, other than through genetics. Ah, but a bureaucracy cannot change course - so it decides to cut the parents off entirely and put the kids up for adoption.
¹ seems one child on the family does not have a weight problem. Never has. Same parents, environment, meals...