We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
While this video is long, around 40 minutes, I highly recommend it. Put it on while you do some household chores. Dr. John Drew, a true revo believer at the times he met with ?bama during ?bama's days at Occidental, recounts that an acquaintance informed him, "He's one of us." Us being the revo crowd. Drew found out at the time that Obama was even more hard-core than Drew was. While Drew was despairing of the eventuality of revo-America, ?bama had no such despair.
I have to admit, during my college days, I dabbled a bit (limited, to be sure) in the Marxist groups which were so "socially popular" at the time. I never jumped ship, I was merely looking for a social connection which the groups on the right were severely lacking (and still are!!).
I have no issue with Obama's college ideologies. I have many friends who were Marxist in college. It was hip, it was trendy, it was cool.
In fact, so was PJ O'Rourke...and he's as unabashedly right wing as they come now (as are many others, including some interesting Yippies back in the day).
Point is - we only antagonize supporters of Obama who hope to switch sides by talking about this stuff. They see this kind of talk and, rather than admitting they were wrong to support Obama, they say "I'd love to disown him, but for THIS???"
The heroin connection story and Marxist rantings? I mean, really? Is it worth it?
Far more useful to keep attacking his supposedly "practical solutions to difficult problems", which are not practical and neither are the problems difficult.
As I said to my father yesterday "It's less an issue that he's pushing Socialism. If he is in fact doing that, I'd be more comfortable because I'd know what he's doing. What he's REALLY doing is pushing a political agenda of dependence on political solutions for the taxpayer - a machine. He's essentially Boss Tweed with a smile and a handshake. Tweed was well liked, until he wasn't anymore."
Machine politics are what make the income redistribution so "practical" - the make a dependent class totally devoid of ambition and completely in rapture of the political class that will provide for them. It's a vote winning procedure.
I have no issue with Obama's college ideologies. I have many friends who were Marxist in college. It was hip, it was trendy, it was cool. In fact, so was PJ O'Rourke...and he's as unabashedly right wing as they come now (as are many others, including some interesting Yippies back in the day).
Have you listened to the video?
The point is not so much that he was a Marxist in college but that we have no indication that he has changed . I was also leftist back in the day. I had enough exposure to the left back then to realize there was a pronounced arrogant, self-righteous,dogmatic sectarian element in the left, and to this day I have no love for those who havenít learned a thing in 30-40 years, such as Billyboy All I Want For Christmas is Dictatorship of the Proletariat Ayers. Ex: I got scared when I heard an SDS honcho at my U say that Lenin should be studied in the university in the same sense that Plato and Dante were studied- as one of the greats. Except that Lenin should be studied more than Dante or Plato. Thirty pages of Lenin a day keeps the bourgeoisie away, that sort of thing. Maybe such statements didnít scare you. Reading A Day in the Life of Ivan Denosivitch dissuaded me at age 14 of that nonsense- as did growing up with a number of refugees from the Iron Curtain.
Moreover, Dr. Drew said in the video that ?bama was not one of those trendies, but was a true believer. Note that ?bama is decidedly NOT right wing these days: so what is the point in bringing up PJ OíRourke? There appears to be a great deal of continuity between what ?bama believed in college and where he is now.
Given that half the Democrats have something good to say about Socialism, perhaps you are correct to state it is counterproductive to point this video out to them.
Certainly the dysfunctional aspects of his passed and proposed legislation are of more import today than his political stance as a college student. But I see no indication that he has had any "road to Damascus" change since college.
It is our fault. When we first began to let an "other" group lie. Lie about their history. Lie about their actions. Lie about their intentions. Lie about their qualifications to lead, or to teach. Lie about our own history in order to make theirs look better (there are many white families in the west/midwest rural areas whose great grandparents tried to make nice neighbors with the Indians, only to be slaughtered where they stood. You don't hear that story anymore from Hollywood.) Nope--the minute we let others lie about historical fact, etc. the blame is with us--for cowardice.