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Saturday, April 26. 2008Saturday LinksDarwin's garden, at the NY Botanical Garden How McCain is dodging McCain-Feingold Oxblog's David Adesnik's life is too interesting for him to find computer time Beyond Discrimination: African American Inequality in the 21st Century TNR: Cheer up, Democrats The biofuel backlash England removed from the European map. My brave ancestors, castrated and played for suckers. Very sad to watch cultural suicide unfolding before ones' eyes. Repubs are racist? Not the ones I know. Let's start with Lincoln, and work forward towards Eisenhower. We will vote for a Conservative guy or gal - brown, black, yellow, Jewish, or Mormon - in a New York minute. A quote from Norm:
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Poor people don't eat Field Corn. Not very much, anyway. A special prize to any Maggies Farm Reader who can eat a pound ($0.11 worth) of Field Corn this week. The prize is a trip to a gastroenterologist.
Poor Cattle eat field corn. Right before they're slaughtered as food for RICH PEOPLE! If poor people were starving due to the lack of the cheapest stuff on earth in their diet maybe we should QUIT PAYING FARMERS NOT TO RAISE THE STUFF! We currently pay farmers NOT to farm over 34 Million Acres. NEVER trust the conclusions of a perfessor who can't get the basic facts right. To Wit: “It takes around 400 pounds of corn to make 25 gallons of ethanol,” Mr. Senauer, also an applied economics professor at Minnesota, said. “It’s not going to be a very good diet but that’s roughly enough to keep an adult person alive for a year.” We use 60% of the cattle feeding ability of a bushel (56lbs) of cattle feed to produce, roughly, 3 gallons of ethanol. If you do the math this comes out to about 11.2 lbs of field corn per gallon. We expend about 30,000 btus of energy (mostly nat gas) in the process, and avoid Importing 116,000 BTUs from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, or some such. We keep the money at home. The production provides jobs Here, and and the taxes go to build schools, and highways in the United States, not Algeria, or Equador. And, most important, if ANYONE can find a connection between U.S. #2 Dent Field Corn, and Asian Long-Stemmed Rice grown in the Rice Paddies of China, and Vietnam I'll eat the entire rice crop of Cambodia singlehandedly. And throw in Afghanistan, and India for good measure. I knew we could pull you back in, Rufus! We do need that debate. However, that field corn does go into food: cows, etc.
give it up Rufus. you had your fifteen minutes of fame and now the markets are reeling because of the ethanol fruitcake venture.
your credibility is nill. African American Inequality in the 21st Century
from the report Both the Pew and Brookings reports underscore the persistence of group inequality and the differentiation of African American social structure As a race they simply aren't as smart as American-Americans Imagine that, but look up the intelligence and comprehension data. It's all there. Whether true or not, or racist or not, that is de minimus. It does not take a lot of brains to make a good life in the USA.
It only takes work, honesty, energy, and persistence. It is leaving de minimus at the speed of the double whammy of deflation and inflation a very rare simultaneous economy wrecking set of components.
Soon it will be de maximus, and crime will skyrocket. Hijacked gas trucks, riots in the major metro areas. Initiated by the stumme Kopfschwarze. Rebublicans are Racists
the true pity is that they are not. they heavily pander for the African vote. truth is we need a [u]USKKKA[/i] Maggie's Farm says it wants freedom from do-gooders
Well anon seems to be a do gooder. I say anon rise. The markets are "reeling," alright. Wheat is down from it's highs by about 40%, soybeans by about 15%.
And, the real price of corn is somewhere South of 10 cents/lb. We don't know exactly how far south because there's so much, actual, real corn in storage that the elevators aren't interested in buying any right now. AT ANY PRICE. All they'll say is "call us back in August." The cost of food, according to the CPI, was up two tenths of one percent (0.2%) in March. NOW, since the cost of food was only up 0.2% in the U.S., and we have NO export tariffs on food, why is food more expensive in, say, India? Could it be because they have HUGE IMPORT, AND "EXPORT" TARIFFS ON FOOD?!? Dear perfesser Runge is a professor of "LAW!" (anyone smell "lobbyist?") Here: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=116098 is what an Expert has to say. BTW, our Corn Exports were UP 16% this year. Soybeans, about 12%, I believe. However, the European Union held 10% of THEIR Wheat land out of production. Maybe we should pick on them awhile, ya think? Ruf friend, your ship has sailed. The powers are rapidly moving away from your "corny" idea dur to the total costs of production verses the value gained.
Time to move on nad promote the perpetual motion machine. But nice try. I kinda doubt it, Bud.
With Unleaded at $3.65/gallon, and E85, in some places, at $2.65/gallon the oil companies can sponsor all of these silly sound bytes they want; the future will keep on coming on. An article in the WSJ (I'm no fan of that anti-ethanol, Exxon-sponsored rag; but there you go) postulated that the 550,000 barrels of ethanol we use daily are holding the price of gasoline down by, probably, $0.50/gallon. NOW, One more time, ask a working man, trying to feed a family on a modest income, which is more important to him: Saving $0.02 on a can of coca cola (that's how much the price of the corn in a coke has gone up,) saving you $0.15 on your Ribeye Steak, or SAVING $600.00/Yr on fuel for his vehicles. From today's MarketWatch
Texas wants partial reprieve from biofuels standard Governor says new green rules are driving up corn prices, costing ranchers http://tinyurl.com/67hxjv Texas? . . . . Texas . . . hmm
I've heard that name before . . . now, where was it? Oh, wait! . . . . . . . Oil? Naw, THAT can't be it. Never mind. Herrnstein and Murry, The Bell Curve (The Free Press, 1994)
only the elitest liberal establishment discredited this work. scientifically it was a masterpiece Chapter Thirteen titled "Ethnic Differences in Cognitive Ability" pages 283-284; the authors talk about an intelligence test called the Wechsler intelligence test. This test has two forms: forward digit span, in which the subject tries to repeat a sequence of numbers in the order read to him, and backward digit span, in which the subject tries to repeat the sequence of numbers backward. The authors conclude that this test is free of any cultural biases because it uses numbers that are familiar to everyone, and calls on no cultural information besides knowing numbers. The results of this test according to the authors, is that whites score twice as high on backward digits as do blacks. However, the authors also tested reaction time of blacks and whites. The hypothesis here being that smarter people process faster than less smart people. The conclusion here was that white reaction time is faster than black reaction time, but black movement time is faster than white movement time. This is a clear implication to me that according to Hernstein and Murray, blacks should shift their focus away from intellectual pursuits because the data shows that blacks cannot function as well as whites; and that blacks should rely on sports, dance and music because that is where blacks natural talent lays. Is that why they "dance" in the endzone? Could be true, but it doesn't account for the issue.
The issue is sub-cultural, I believe. Average IQ means nothing much. I know tons of stupid white guys and gals who hold down decent jobs. I have even met some stupid Asians!!! It's not about IQ: it's about character, determination, and desire. yeah you're right. IQ isn't important, just think of all those people with character, determination, and desire who invented the atomic bomb, got us to the moon...think of just how ordinary Michelangelo was, or Kant or Rene Descarte.
Just regular Joes. Huh. old Kudlow has sure been down on the farm bill. Esp the sugar price supports and how they create the monster tariff on Brazilian ethanol, which is said to be 8 times more cost-efficient than our own, even including transport costs. Kudlow and others say the problem is the farm bill, and the farm bill is a sop to the Iowa primaries. if that's true, then we need to ride congress out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered.
we need to ride congress out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered.
ah, doesn't that need to be done just on general principles of retaining and retraining good government? Buddy,
I think sometime in the future Brazilian Cane Ethanol will be very important for us, and the world. It IS a pretty efficient process, and they do have SCADS, AND SCADS of fallow, arable land. That said, however, there are a couple of other things to keep in mind. It's very labor intensive (at present;) and they, literally, pay their labor "slave" wages. I would say that a modern, state-of-the-art American Corn Ethanol Refinery such as are being designed, and built, now, will be just as efficient, if not more so, than a Cane Mill once you factor in the labor of the Brazilian refinery. Another thing: It IS S. America. The "Politics" down there are "volatile," to say the least. Do we really, at this stage, want to transfer our dependency from Riyadh, to Rio? That said, though, we will drop the tariff on Ethanol when we drop the $0.51 tax credit on same. (btw, all this needs to be taken with a small amount of salt, anyway; we let the first 500 Million gallons, or so, in TARIFF-FREE, now. Sometimes Brazil doesn't even reach That goal. for what it's worth) If we dropped the tariff before we dropped the tax credit the taxpayers could find themselve Subsidizing Foreign Ethanol to the Detriment of our own oil producers. Anyway, we're at the end as far as building any more corn ethanol plants. Those under constructiion will bring us up to about 15 Billion gallon/yr - the limit for corn. We Really need the tariff, right now, to protect/encourage investment in "Cellulosic." If we're going to survive "Peak Oil" we will HAVE TO HAVE a Lot of This. Give us a couple of years. BTW, a lot of what you're reading is just nonsense sponsored by a Big Oil Industry that is astonished by what they're seeing in biofuels. The words "Panic," and "Hysteria" come to mind. 15 billion is about 10% of an annual burn -- and as you say --is about our limit. But prices are always set at margins -- and 10% is a lot of margin --
You can betcha it's Lot more margin than the Oil Companies, and Sauds want to give up, Buddy. Too freakin bad.
On another note: The ethanol refineries are getting a lot more efficient: http://www.ethanolrfa.org/objects/documents/1652/2007_analysis_of_the_efficiency_of_the_us_ethanol_industry.pdf Of course, the ones coming online in the next few years will make these look like the Model T's they are. Gimme nuke power! Except for my chain saw, which I do not wish to power with corn.
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BD
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2008-04-26 15:10
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...or corn likker, like old Armless Jones did once.
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buddy larsen
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2008-04-26 15:22
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there's a plant operating in Jeanerette, Louisiana --as we speak. Cane. My sis & BnL in Lafayette know one of the principals -- their kids play sports against each other -- the inside word is "it's working" -- at least that one is.
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buddy larsen
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The words "Panic," and "Hysteria" come to mind
they have come to the mind of Congress which is about to pull the reins in on the ethanol crazies. article a year from now will be about tar sand extraction in Ontario Canada and about the quick demise of ethanol. You know what ethanol spelled backwards is don't you? There ya go! Tar Sands! The Quick, Clean, Economical Solution.
Why din't I think of THAT? Ethanol ain't going anywhere, Bud. Quite simply, the Farm State Senators are too Numerous for that. Exxon, and Conoco are just fighting a rear-guard action while they try to figure out what to do next. As for the "Food" deal: it's already becoming "Yesterday's Story." What problem there is is Rice; and that's a function of who consumes it, and, obviously, where it's grown. You can't get anyone to stay serious for long when you're talking about food "crisis" in Egypt, Hayti, Zimbabwe, and India. There Ag/Economic Policies are Horrid; and everyone knows it. You're dead when late night talkshow hosts start making fun of you; and, they're having a ball with Costco limiting people to 4 fifty pound bags of rice per trip. 4 - 50 Pound Bags! Ah, BD, you could handle a nuke-powered chain saw. :)
Seriously, I'm all for Nukes. It'll take a while to gett'em up and running; but we'll need'em for the long run. In the meantime, ten or fifteen percent corn in that chainsaw will make her run like a top. Average IQ means nothing much
NJ, you stumbled onto this correct statement. If you have an average IQ in todays world you can be a roofer or a sandwich artist. NOW, One more time, ask a working man, trying to feed a family on a modest income, which is more important to him:
Saving $0.02 on a can of coca cola (that's how much the price of the corn in a coke has gone up,) saving you $0.15 on your Ribeye Steak, or SAVING $600.00/Yr on fuel for his vehicles. RUFUS..that's a no brainer. You sell the wife and kids and run off with the Mary Kay cosemtics rep. Fantastic, Bud; I knew you'd stumble onto my secret soul, Eventually.
If there's a gov subsidy/incentive to grow more feed corn for bio fuel, then won't that at least in the short term incent farmers to plant more feed corn at the expense of other food crops thus contributing to a decline in supply and rising prices of the food crops?
I'd think in the longer term that as prices rise, more of the food crops will be planted, but I could definately see how incenting farmers to plant feed corn would drive a shift to feed corn. |