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Monday, February 25. 2008Monday Morning LinksI'm hungry. Got any grub? If you vote for Hillary, you must be a racist. If you vote for Obama, you must be a sexist. Classical Values. If you live by PC, you will die by PC. Department of Hillbilly Studies? Riehl: Women seem to want politicians who sympathize with how hard they work. Pathetic, but it might be the reality. Pathetic because it's their husbands and kids who should appreciate their efforts - not politicians. Too many elephants? How can anybody have too many? Is the NYT news dept in free fall? Old blighty might be ready for dhimmitude, but I doubt that Doritos is ready. Clinton staff unravelling Quit the ridiculous Obama bashing, says Rick. Like we always say, the next Ice Age will be the real challenge of the future. h/t, Junk Science The politics of illegal immigration. Wizbang. Lots of differing views out there.
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I've eaten a lot of pantry moth larvae. It's just protein, I figure, though if they're really visible in the not-yet-best-if-if-used-by-date Kroger Oat Bran I take it back to the store.
It's a first world thing. Raisins get them too, if you don't keep them cool until the expiration date. Buying lots of raisins on sale is not a good idea without a cool place to keep them. Also brown rice. Fire trainee sparks uproar wth hangman's noose
Posted by Maureen Sieh February 24, 2008 6:53AM --The Hangman's noose, a symbol of America's ugly racial history, reared its head so many times in the last year that it's hard to believe that there are people in our community who don't know it's offensive to African-Americans. In September, thousands protested an incident in Jena, La. that began with a noose hanging from a tree branch, a warning to black students not to sit in its shade. After that, nooses started appearing on several college campuses. At the Syracuse fire department, officials launched an investigation to determine whether the knot tied by a recruit had intentional racial overtones. The recruit, who is white, was practicing to tie a knot but he ended up with a noose. He pulled the rope up and told his fellow recruits, 'look I tied a noose,'' Fire Chief John Cowin said. One of the recruits was an African-American woman who was offended, Cowin said. The fire department investigated the incident and determined that it wasn't "a racist malicious act,'' but ignorance, Cowin said. But Syracuse Common Councilors Van Robinson and Tom Seals said the recruit has no place in the fire department. "This recruit should be terminated,'' Seals said..... http://blog.syracuse.com/metrovoices/2008/02/syracuse_nyten_years_ago_i.html What a ridiculous story eh Patina... and those 'Councilors', me thinks they are the ones who should be terminated.
I never think 'racial history' when I see a noose... though I 'm 'supposed' to I guess. I think of Europe or England or the Old West... sometimes a Mussolini will pop up as an image... or Jews hanging off lamp posts. I need some PC education I reckon to set me right on what I should 'see'. 'Doc'... I'm sure the editors do appreciate your trying to keep things on topic... but we're not the best at doing that around here. Comments frequently devolve into far ranging discussions. Matter of fact the editors have explicitly asked the readers to post tidbits of news and interesting things in the comments. On topic or not. If the young recruit is not racist, then he has to be "ignorant" or else he loses his job. What a system.
Dear Patina:
https://www.blogger.com You're very welcome. Doc Dear Dr. M,
What are you trying to say? You're very welcome. Patina I suppose I would eat bugs if I was hungry enough. Made a big pot of chili for an older couple once. I used the chili powder that was over the stove and as I dumped it in I saw a lot of bugs! Yech. Went to throw the whole thing out but the old guy, who grew up on a farm said no way. He wanted to eat it. At least his wife and I had some laughs as we watched him eat a big bowl of chili and bugs.
The Doc's sphincter is tightening.
Did I ever tell you the story of my cat? Well it all began when..... Bill & Hillary Clouseau?
By Ralph Alter Initially feared and prohibitively favored, the campaign of Hillary Clinton in its death spiral has devolved into Pink Panther-like absurdity. Originally described as a juggernaut, the terms that most accurately describe Hillary's campaign now are bumbling and incoherent. Am.Thinker http://tinyurl.com/ytm5qk Funny Hillbilary is seeing heaven opened and she is still the best lookin' chicklett amongst all candidates.
Voting for someone who is wise might not be the popular thing but Ralph is a real comer. If you live by PC, you will die by PC from the first area of discussion on this link today.
That is precisely why I sometimes purposefully go out of my way to be non PC. If one refuses to stand up to the bullies then one can only expect a good daily thrashing. Once you accept the daily thrashing you're a slave. So when I see some one like AL Sharpton, who began his national public career using Tawana Brawley as his foil and I see him do something that N-prople would say, "That nigger", well I'll just join in their free speech and use the same vernacular. Fair is fair. But if you let the left control the nomenclature and therefore the culture you're begging to get whipped. Tu quoque as is said in Latin. IMHO, "tu quoque" as used is a statement against interest -- the speaker's statement being the "tu quoque" --used in the 'two wrongs=one right' variation.
Buddy,
meant to be used in traditional manner of "you too", as in "yo momma wears combat boots" tu quoque. But to set aside the perhaps the misused Latin phrase the meaning remains....if you submit to PC you can't complain about it cause you're (plural) an enabler. I personally like sticking it right back in their face. Buddy,
Your analysis correct, if we use Wiki. Forthwith: "llegitimate use In many cases tu quoque arguments are used in a logically fallacious way, to draw a conclusion which is not supported by the premises of the argument. You-too version This form of the argument is as follows: A makes criticism P. A is also guilty of P. Therefore, P is dismissed. This is an instance of the two wrongs make a right fallacy. Example: "He cannot accuse me of libel because he was just successfully sued for libel." Wiki cites this as fallacious. I won't argue the point. My point, and I lack a Latin phrase to express it is, using the above example: "He cannot accuse me of libel because he was just successfully sued for libel." My point would be if some slimeball like Al Sharpton makes an accusation that he is equally, if not more guilty of, I will not simply take his criticism unchallenged, nor will I, should he use a term like cracker, or white bread shy away from going "nigger" on his ass. The standard argument against doing this is that one is lowering themselves etc...we'll that may be true but over the past score years the lowering ,dumbing down, and PC'ers have gained the dominant position in dictating the cultural rhythm and the general cultural argot. Well, I'm no longer willing to be an enabler for the PC'ers by playing by their rules. Logic is great, but I would also point out it has, in the real world among men and women is not used very often. It's a power game out there and right now the PC'ers have the power ...you define the language ,you control the discussion. So I'll invent a suitable Latin phrase " Tu 'Bite Me' Quoque"....I think that'll work. LOL -- I knew you could defend it --yo defense, "two wrongs may not make a right but it does keep the ball in play until something better comes along" is, uh, defensible.
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buddy larsen
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2008-02-25 15:09
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I must admit, I think I've heard the expression "bite me" before but as you mirthfully framed it, at least it keeps the ball in the air.
I must admit I never thought PC'ers would succeed to the degree they have in defining what is acceptable. Now I've used the N word way too many times today. It's over the top, hyperbole, used for illustration. I do not as a matter of good manners use the word, unless to mumble it to myself when cut off in traffic. I think I even have a book with a picture of MLK in it. Right now it's used to level my workbench. Finally a big shout out to all our African American friends, neighbors, and fellow citizens in this BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
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Habu
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2008-02-25 17:58
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From the book on workbench-levelling books: "Always read a book that says measure twice, cut once', or, failing that, use the book to level the workbench."
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buddy larsen
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2008-02-25 18:17
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I read a very similar book.
It said ..measure with a micrometer......mark with a pencil ...cut with an ax. Say did you here about the two cannibals eating the comedian? One looked at the other and says, "Does this taste funny to you?"
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Habu
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2008-02-25 21:14
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Habu and Buddy, I think you are both right. Not sure how to resolve that. Touchy subject, race. Here is Michael Scott, the boss on "The Office" after he was made to take Diversity training.))
Michael looks defeated in the conference room and tells everyone that he hated when Mr. Brown the diversity trainer was there because Mr. Brown had never met any of them before. Michael just wanted to do it their way, on their own. Michael says that maybe he should have gotten some food. “Maybe some spaghetti,” Kevin says. Michael says the exercise is over but then continues that food would have shown that diversity trainer up, “some burritos or some colored greens or some pad thai.” Stanley corrects him and says that it’s collard greens" but Michael counters that does not make any sense because they’re not called “collard people,”. That would be offensive.
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Patina
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2008-02-25 21:46
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LOL I like that
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Habu
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2008-02-25 21:58
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Y'all sound like a lil' black girl with the fair fair talk.
Only thing fair is a fiare woman and that is why y'all are so envious. But take heart, if y'all are muslim, whiteness is a reward of Muhammad's paradise. |