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Tuesday, February 12. 2008

For where gun licensing leads, look to the UK

Personal weapons are the mark of a free man or woman. Guns are not about hunting: they are about the fundamental human right of self-defence. I have been held up twice and burglarized twice. Never again, because I was neither raised, nor made, to be a passive victim of low-life scumbags.

The wealthy and powerful have bodyguards, but it is up to regular folks to be our own bodyguards and the guards of our families. In the old days, it was a club, or a spear, or a sword, or a dagger. Shooting sports are secondary: great fun, but secondary.

(h/t to Theo for the video)

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I believe in the right to bear arms but do you really think we need to have a gun on order to defend ourselves? For example if someone broke into my house I dont think I would get to the weapon in time to use it.
Bodyguards are mostly for rappers , celebrities, and wealthy south americans who are fending off kidnappers.
But then again, I suppose if I lived in New Orleans I would carry a gun like my brother who will shoot first and ask questions later.
#1 opie on 2008-02-12 19:30 (Reply)
Opie, if you moved to N.O. I would buy you a gun to carry. However, you happen to live in a very safe place. Not everybody does.

But the main point is that IT'S YOUR RIGHT - whether you can get to your firearm or not.
#1.1 BD on 2008-02-12 19:59 (Reply)
I watched about half of the piece and the question that kept overwhelming my mind was why did the citizens comply? Their was a good deal of lamenting about how they thought they lived in a free country etc ..but when it came down to it they were just lemmings going over the cliff.

In this country the police know who have guns because we must now register them but if they ban them in this country do they really expect me to go stand in line to give up my Second Amendment Right? If they do they're really going to be disappointed.

If no one goes to the station to turn them in that means the police will have to come to your house. If they come to my house I will fire on them and shoot to kill, because it is my RIGHT to own a firearm and beyond the governments ability to take that RIGHT away from me. It will be one helluva gun battle if they choose to go that way. Eventually I may be killed but I will have died a free man ,not a turncoat to our Constitution's first Ten Amendments. Only a government intent on enslaving their population would disarm that population. Do not walk to the proverbial gas chambers like millions of Jews did. We all die, die for something like our freedom. Die standing up not kneeling and begging.

If enough people do the same the law will be unenforceable and they will have to back off or face a revolution.

Believe me the criminals will have guns and we'll just be targets for home invasions,kidnappings etc.....not me ....I'll be happy to enforce the Spirit of 1776.
#2 Habu on 2008-02-12 19:48 (Reply)
Additionally, if there is a gun ban and no one shows up at the poilce stations to deposit their guns the police will be faced with AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK. They do not have the manpower to go door to door collecting guns....so just stand on you RIGHTS and don't comply. If they do show up and start getting sniped and killed there will be fewer and fewer to carry out the task. Freedom will prevail.

Even our National Guard, if Federalized couldn't , and probably wouldn't enforce that law
#2.1 Habu on 2008-02-13 06:38 (Reply)
Their, there, they're come on guy geez get it right you look like a moron.

There ..
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#3 Habu on 2008-02-12 19:54 (Reply)
It might help if you proofed your material prior to hitting the button. Believe me there isn't a soul out there holding their breath waiting for your next post. Slow down, proofread, check spelling. You'll find it's ok to take the extra time.
#3.1 Habu on 2008-02-12 19:59 (Reply)
I wasn't holding my breath but I was interested in your take on this. Glad to hear your opinion. If the founding fathers arrived tomorrow they would be shaking their heads at us.
#3.1.1 grant1863 on 2008-02-12 22:42 (Reply)
O/T





From the Wall Street Journal

Obama's Commie Confederates ?

Republicans campaigning for president in South Carolina are routinely called upon to take a position against the Palmetto State's flying of the Confederate battle flag near the Capitol in Columbia. Imagine what would happen if reporters found the stars and bars flying in a GOP candidate's campaign office. Some campaign worker would be out of a job, and the candidate himself would have great difficulty living it down.

Not surprisingly, this is a story about media double standards. The Little Green Footballs blog notes that cameras from Houston's KRIV-TV caught a glimpse of a different invidious flag hanging on the wall of what the narrator describes as a new Barack Obama campaign office in Texas' largest city. During a report on the run-up to the March 4 Texas primary, the KRIV camera pans past a Cuban flag with an image of Che Guevara, an ally of communist dictator Fidel Castro. Guevara presided over show trials and executions of Castro enemies after the communist takeover of Cuba in 1959 before leaving Cuba in 1965 to foment terror and revolution elsewhere in the Third World .

Does Che Guevara symbolize the kind of "change" Barack Obama wants to bring to America?

Obama's Web site announces that the office is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign." But it is yet another indication of how creepy his supporters tend to be. And, as we said, if this were a Republican and a Confederate flag, the calls for him to denounce it would be deafening by now.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110011128
#4 Habu on 2008-02-12 20:27 (Reply)
Recall Castro made out to be a nationalist before Batista was ousted.

I'm not giving up my guns unless there is a constitutional amendment, at which point I'd think about. It will take more than a US Supreme Court ruling for me.
#5 bob on 2008-02-12 23:57 (Reply)
An excellent place to follow the 2nd Amendment is--

John Lott's Website

More Guns, Less Crime!
#6 bob on 2008-02-13 00:12 (Reply)
There's a simple logical exercise that John Derbyshire wrote that perfectly explains the logic of private citizen gun rights:

There are only 4 possible/theoretical states of gun ownership:
1. Only law abiding citizens have guns
2. Only criminals (or potential criminals) have guns
3. Both law abiding citizens AND criminals have guns
4. No one has guns except law enforcement officials

Only two of these theoretical states are actually possible in the real world:
- Criminals will always have access to guns in the black market so while law abiding citizens obey the no gun law, criminals will not, therefore number 1 is impossible and this scenario will automatically shift to number 3.
- Since criminals will always have access to guns, number is impossible so this scenario also defaults you to number 2.

Therefore the only two possible scenarios in the real world are numbers 2 and 3. Since law enforcement is basically reactive and I wouldn't want the number of law enforcement officials required to protect unarmed citizens from armed preditors, I'll take number 3 thank you very much.

Move from a high tax to low/no income tax state - check. Move from a no conceal and carry to a conceal and carry and low/no income tax state - check, check where do I sign.
#7 phil g on 2008-02-13 11:12 (Reply)
Correction:
- Since criminals will always have access to guns, number 4 is impossible...
#7.1 phil g on 2008-02-13 11:22 (Reply)
The sight of those people standing in line to willingly turn those weapons in for destruction made me ill. I saw the product of many factories (some now defunct, admittedly) in my backyard, here in CT, including Colt's (Hartford), Smith and Wesson (Springfield), Remington (Bridgeport), High Standard (Hamden). I didn't notice Winchester (New Haven), Marlin and Mossberg (both in North Haven), but I'll bet they were there.
#8 Steve on 2008-02-13 15:32 (Reply)
I'm with ya, Habu. They will have to dig me out with a SWAT Team. I know some of the guys on the local Team - they will be barricaded in their own houses.
#9 NJSoldier on 2008-02-13 16:32 (Reply)
Me haven't any sympathy for the Brit's or Danes o'er the pond.

USA is totally different playing field and no where are arms mandated for destruction not even individual arms.

Thanks to democratic machinations, Supreme Court will probably uphold the 4th Circuit Court on right to bear arms in one's D.C. domicile.

It can hardly, be expected that it will dictate to D.C.; it may not require home weapons have trigger locks.

Trigger locks is what it comes down to.

Meself always prefered a speed load for hand gun but how hard is it to abide a trigger lock which if neglected, the gummint would n'er be the wiser.

Unless, of course, the chicklett in your bowdaire is an insincere agent of her own passion or worse a CI!

For those folks in D.C. not armed before the cut off date, me must say, y'all should have seen it coming, having had ample forwarning.

DC, nasty that it is, has a legtimate concern to impose reasonable restrictions on personnal arms, which y'all were warned of.

If y'all bring in weapon from another state or presinct don't tell the chickletts.

One of the chicks, who sued DC originally, has a hard case to sell.

Her wants to make war on drug dealers in her adopted community.

Shelly Parker noted that she "...resides in a high-crime neighborhood...[and as a] consequence of trying to make her neighborhood a better place to live, Ms. Parker has been threatened by drug dealers. Ms. Parker presently intends to possess a functional handgun within her home for self-defense, but is prevented from doing so only by defendants' active enforcement of unconstitutional policies complained of in this action. Ms. Parker fears arrest, criminal prosecution, incarceration, and fine if she were to possess a functional handgun within her home."

I wager, her has one and maybe, a shotgun, too.
#10 Leag on 2008-02-13 16:59 (Reply)

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