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Wednesday, January 30. 2008
"McCain can win and Romney can't," says Dick Morris. Despite Rush's rather strong opinions, I suspect that Morris is correct for 2008.
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More on McCain and the Gang of 14 and how they saved the Republican Party's ass
Now let us further assume that the GOP had deployed the nuclear option in the 109th Congress. Would the Democrats get payback by doing the same thing in 2009, applying the nuclear option to insure confirmation of their judicial nominees? I think this would very likely be the path that would be taken. What tools would the GOP minority in the Senate then have to resist any Democratic nominations to the Courts - either the Appeals Court or the Supreme Court (when Stevens and Ginsberg retire), without any ability to successfully apply the filibuster? The answer is none.
Of course, some might argue that the Democrats will deploy the nuclear option regardless of what the GOP did or did not do in 2005, if the Senate Republicans start using the filibuster repeatedly to block judicial nominees (the Democrats did not block all judicial nominees but some they considered controversial). I think not. For one thing, all 7 Democrats who were members of the gang of 14 are still in the Senate, though Mary Landrieu has a tough race this year. I think, these 7 and a few other Democrats would oppose use of the option. That would mean the Democrats could not get a majority for it even if they pick up several seats in the 2008 elections.
The nuclear option was shortsighted. For this approach to help the GOP in any more than one Congressional cycle required the Party to retain control of the Presidency and the Senate in succeeding cycles.
The gang of 14 compromise helped two Supreme Court nominees get approved quickly and a few Appeals Court nominees to be confirmed as well. Use of the nuclear option in 2005 would have enabled a few additional Appeals Court nominations to get through in 2005 and 2006.
But it would also have given a blank check for the next Democratic President who took office with a majority for his party in the Senate to get all of his or her judicial nominations approved from the start. That would be a really bad deal for the GOP, much worse than the gang of 14 deal, a compromise in which the GOP gained more than it lost.
Richard Baehr is political director of American Thinker.
Good then. We can expect no border fence, more limits on political speech, and more helping the left pass their agenda. Must be that new tone thing. McCain is about as inside as it gets.
But then there's his quote from meet the press to comfort us: "I think Hillary will make a good president.." Yup, he said it. So flip the coin folks- head is on both sides.
OK, I know. However, in politics nobody can get everything they want. It's a big Repub Party, and not all agree with me about everything, obviously - or Fred Thompson would be in the lead. Got to accept that.
Morris is a flibbertigibbet. In March 2004 he spouted off about how Hillary had to be on the ticket in 2004 if she wanted any chance ever to be president. I saw him on TV talking about: she simply had to be, must be, was absolutely required to be, on the ticket in 2004, or she would never have a shot at it.
That's pretty much ridiculous on the face of it.
Morris actually wrote about it for The Hill. Funny, the article doesn't seem to be on their website now. But it's here:
Dick morris has been wrong on many issues.... Remember when he said Condi. Rice would run against Hillary ? He is nothing more than a good guesser.
Ha Ha...McCain can win and Romney can't!!! Pretty good joke. If you think a 72 year old show-boat Republican in name only is going to rally the faithful, ok, maybe, I doubt it...Millions of conservatives will sit this one out but you might be right...
Scott, if you're correct and millions of conservatives "sit this one out" the there won't be a conservative movement at all in five years.
The Democrats will more than likely enlarge the Supreme Court to fifteen members, all of whom will be rabidly socialist liberals. Likewise the entire Executive Branch, all Departments, after all the Reagan appointees are retirement age now and will be retiring.
So all the angry conservatives will do is further minimize ANY chance they have of influencing ANYTHING in our government. It's pure idiocy, driven by small minds that don't understand how politics work and are ready to behave like feet stomping two year olds who can't have their way.
If you don't want a seat at the table for probably the remainder of your life then go right ahead and shoot yourself in the foot because John McCain isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan. Just remember there won't be any do overs once the band of socialists gain all the strings of power. I would suggest those conservatives preparing to sit this one out engage their brains, not sit on their asses.
The chorus from MorMittites, about 2 percent of Americans,
since McCain is on the rise tells well that they aren't conservative.
What can de nom be?
Ramblers, y'all, petulent losers are Ramblers.
Yeah, well McCain is not the next Lincoln. Not sure if I'd vote for him, even if Hitlery is the alternative. One more for my list: there will be less "torture" under his watch as well.
Besides, Johnny Mac will "Dean" out on us soon enough. Yearghhh!
Also assuming here that the Paulinator doesn't pull a Perot and wreck things for 4 years, minimum.
Overall I'd say this thread is predominantly dominate by unsophisticated political minds. It's the part of the "conservative movement" that the liberals love to point to and laugh at. After reading #2 Phil and #5 Scott one begins to wonder if they are Republicans, conservatives, angry men, simply ill informed, never took any civics classes, are unaware of our own history, or just what the hell they're thinking.
It's akin to hate, sitting out the election. When you hate someone they don't feel it, they're not hurt by it, but it eats away at the hater just like rust until the hater is incapable of rational thought and finally becomes useless to anyone, even themselves.
I won't even mention the millions of US service men and women who have given their last full measure of devotion to secure the right to vote for us.....go ahead guys just spit on their graves and make a mockery of their lives because you are small minded and petulant.
These "sit out" guys aren't leaders of any stripe but rather more along the lines of solipsists who have to have their way or they'll create a toxic atmosphere for the rest of us..
Sorry you kids never adjusted to adult life.
sorry you are willing to put your money on the whackjob liberal illegal loving kennedyphile so early in the primary season. Why cave so early Hab? Where's your fight gone? You running scared it seems.
in other words: you calling me a baby cuz i don't like the turd you think will take it all? if only babies like me could hold my nose long enough?
jeeeeezus man get a grip. I have standards and I will not settle for less when the "front runner", er, uh, CANDIDATE is not yet chosen.
Maybe you know something we all don't. But it aint over till November. You act like getting in line now is essential? if so, tell me how...
McCain is the grave spitter. I can't believe anyone backs this guy who claims to know sooo much about civics. WHat's more important? Voting, or sovereignty? (hint: you can't have one without the other)
From a 2.5 second google search with the words "juan hernandez john mccain" and the first article that came up:
"TANCREDO: I had a great argument one time with a gentleman by the name of Juan Hernandez who was at that time the minister of that ministry that I just mentioned, the Ministry for Mexicans Living in the United States.
And I asked him that very question. What he told me the purpose of his ministry was to push people into the United States, it was to—by the way, it was also AFC work with them so that they did—he was with the community, he said. He was three days a week in the United States, four in Mexico.
By the way, he himself is a dual citizen born in Texas, university—teaching at the University of Texas and on the Vicente Fox cabinet. And he said, “I work with the community in the United States, the Mexican community because I don‘t want them essentially going native on us. We want them continually tied emotionally, linguistically, politically to Mexico, because then they‘ll continue to send money home.”
And I said to him, that does not sound like—you know, you‘re doing something that‘s actually the act of an unfriendly government.
CARLSON: Well, of course, it doesn‘t in any way serve American interests. It undermines our country in a pretty direct and direct and obvious way.
TANCREDO: Tucker, his response. Let me tell you his response.
TANCREDO: At the end he goes, “Congressman,” in an incredibly condescending way. He goes, “Congressman, it‘s not two countries; it‘s just a region.”
CARLSON: That is not my view, to put it mildly.
TANCREDO: Not mine either.
Now, incredibly, Juan Hernandez is GOP presidential candidate John McCain’s Hispanic Outreach Director. "
I think veterans are spinning in their graves with McCain out front Habu.
Preach on brother Habu...sitting out is a loosers mentality. Politics is about getting the best possible out of the available choices. If McCain ends up against Billary or Barak bin Obama, one a cynical amoral sociapathic socialist, the other an avowed socialist then McCain is CLEARLY the best possible choice given the set of available choices...CHOOSE WISELY!!!
FTR I'm not a McCain fan, but if I have to be, I will be.
It's not like Trotsky and the Red Army are at the gates.
On second thought actually, for the Democratic Party, they are already deep within it. But this country has survived much worse than having either jr.sen. as President and a pinkish Congress.
I have no idea what McCain would do as President once he is assured his dream or what may be a nightmare. But in any circumstance, no matter what happens, let's not become Alec Baldwin's and threaten to leave America for our Villa in Provence.
Forced to choose between those two jr.sens who carry Mao's"Little Red Book" in their pockets and some old guy from Arizona who screws up a lot and has a soaring ego, I'll take the old guy from Arizona.
Habu...I spent 20 years on active duty with the Marine Corps. I don't spit on graves...What have you done other than give impromptu civic lessons where none were required?
I said that millions would likely sit this one out if McCain were the nominee...I never said that I would although that is a possibility.
Have a nice day!
First off I grew up as the son of a Marine Aviator Colonel who was at one time Chesty Puller's G-2, prior to his aviation days where he won the Navy Cross and multiple DFC's.
I joined the Corps in 1968 as a platoon leader and went to Vietnam, where, after several months I was recruited by the CIA because I had the right stuff. I was undercover with them for over ten years, traveling to every continent on the globe, mostly alone. I was all over Laos,Cambodia, and Vietnam, Chile, Angola , just to name a few. I never got caught and I was damn good at what I did. I have a masters in International Relations, am now retired at 60 and own a place in Florida, a place in Montana, a million bucks in the bank and no debt. Following my CIA time I worked for IBM in Beverly Hills ,CA before going to work for various Wall Street firms, where I made lots of money.
Now how does that sound? I've never met anyone in my life with the type of experience I have and those who know me tell me they haven't either. I have picture of my first birthday party at El Toro where I am being bounce on the knee of Pappy Boyington who was our next door neighbor. I've known truly great men all my life, leaders, the best of which was probably Gen. Vernon Walters (CIA) who I reported directly to for several years. I know my shit.
At 60 I can still bench press 300 pounds and my Remington 700 is still very accurate.
Now, son, what was your question about my qualifications to give lessons?
threats of violence... hmm words are deadlier it seems, Hab- lookit what you are down to now.
Just what was it that our brave men have fought for? My right to HATE a political slug like McCain who has repeatedly wiped his ass on the constitution?
Or your right to threaten violence in order to prove you are the grown up and those who disagree (with mere words) are just short-sighted babies who are lost in your shadow?
You are really selling this "hold your nose and vote" thing well. Maybe you can shoot me right after I vote for Big Mac. Then it's a two-fer for your side.
Phil, I learned long ago never threaten violence.
If you're nervous, it's genesis is not from any threat I made.
I spent my entire life fighting communists,socialists, and anarchists who wished this country ill. Now we fight the Islams. Are you aware that every member of the Congressional Black Caucus is also a member of the Democratic Socialists of America? Check out their affiliations and agenda. http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html
Are you aware that Speaker Pelosi was also a member until she gained a leadership position in the Democratic Party? Bernie Sanders? and a host of other Democrats...but not one Republican. Think the Democrats are just another major political party..think again. Their leadership walks ,talks, and has all the treachery of fifth columnists. Is that who you want in control of our entire government?
Check it out. The Democrats are a corrosive group of socialists, Marxists , and all manner of philosophies that are inimical to the Constitution.
You want them in power?
Basic school class C-84. Navy wings in helicopters 9/86. Five years flying Transport Helicopters from Tustin Ca. Air Medal for operations with 13th MEU. Jet wings 9/92. Top Hook award USS Carl Vinson, Air Medals Operation Decisive Endeavor, Weapons and Tactics Instructor Class 1-96, 2nd MAW lead air planner for Operation Millenium Challenge, Deputy to lead Counterterrorism Planner for USEUCOM, Retired Major 7/04. I own a portfolio of about a 100 properties in Charleston, SC with about a 12million market value. Airline Transport pilot with around 5000 flight hours. Oh yeah, I have a Winchester Model 70 .270cal. My last qual with the M-16 was range high for the day 243/250. Give your lessons to somebody else gramps...
Air Medals? Air Medals? That's it? Your blouse must have looked naked.
An instructor here, a planner there. Son you were ID'd early on as one without the right leadership abilities.
Not even a squadron XO? And this you actually printed here. Man that is one sad career of errand boy assignments. But It's good you got to be lead this and that..but if you were the lead in Operation Millenium Challenge and it didn't get you a promotion ..well, you must have FUBAR'd your part but good.
Plus lead in that op wasn't any Major.
I qualified with a real weapon the M-14 and shot 247/250.
You asked what my quals were, I didn't volunteer but you felt compelled to counter with yours. What you did doesn't come close to what I accomplished, all undercover, all without the Geneva Convention, and most of it lethal.
When you're 60 see if you can bench 300 lbs 10x ...climb in the Rockies to 13,000 feet with a 40 pound pack.....yeah baby ..good luck
mccain has added to his advisors three people I really like for their principled free-market capitalism: Jack Kemp, Phil Gramm, and Art Laffer. I'm no McCain man, but i gotta say, if he's trying to make up for his tax-cuts debacle, he is on the right track.
That's as solid a economic team as I can think of. I was a big Phil Gramm supported and when I was President of the Republican Men's Club of Clay County, FL got to introduce him to the membership.
Incidentally, I read McCain's victory speech and in it he mentioned Orange Park ,FL which is the principle burg in Clay County,Fl. and the location of my Florida home.
At the time I was club president our little county also had the Speaker of the House of the State of Florida, the Republican Party Chairman for the State of Florida, and the future Education Secretary. We had some influence in state politics.
yep -- Florida is a major power. I wish Jeb's last name was Smith or Jones or somethin'.
I think what irks me the most about McCain is his constant lying about being a conservative. Why does he persist in doing that? I mean, it is so patently false. It just makes my skin crawl.
Yep I bet we each have our McCain issues, but if he emerges as the Repub candidate then everyone who doesn't want a bunch of leftist shits stuffed into the supreme court and our economy and national defense and soveraign independence compromised for a generation better get your temper tantrum out now, take a deep breath, and then pull the lever, punch the card, touch the icon for McCain and then watch him like a hawk. He might not be a model conservative, but it could be a lot worse...a whole lot worse. Loosing out of spite and bitterniss is not a winning strategy...it's a stupid strategy for whining assholes. Hewitt and Bennett have it exactly right, fight like hell for your preferred candidate, if he doesn't win, then rally around the guy that's left because the alternative IS NOT ACCEPTABLE for this country particularly at this time in our history.
Who is the real fiscal conservative when it comes to proposals for the future? http://blog.ntu.org/main/post.php?post_id=3058#comments
Very interesting Leag and I'm not surprised buy the data from listeing and watching the candidates.
The cost comparison graph within Leag's link is stunning. If you need a fiscal reason to vote for a Repub, no matter which one... there it is. A vote for a Dem, or a non-vote... will lead to destitution. There is a time for principle and a time for reality... I mean, do you think Lee really wanted to surrender.
There is not a lot of room for maneuver here...
I wouldn't call a McCain victory a win for anyone but Mexican drug cartels and the terrorists in Gitmo.
Good for you LomaAlta... and what is your suggested alternative? Hil or Bama... well the Chinese would likely like Hil and the Mid East Bama... I mean is lesser of evils a part of your lexicon. If you live strictly on principal I'm surprised you are still alive.
I and others simply do not wish to throw the sound principles of national borders and free speech under the bus this early.
Nobody here has backed McCain with any reason besides 'the commies are coming'. That is not a winning formula, never has been.
Get some backbone. People need something to vote for. Hillaburton and the arab guy offer a lot to vote against, however, as stated- you gonna count on that? and look who you are putting your words behind so vociferously and the nominee is not even chosen. Running scared, wow that'll wow the independants.
You throw out your principles so quickly and for such flimsy, fear driven reasons, man I am surprised you aren't dead or in jail too. I suppose there were your likes when Goldwater went down. Prolly was the end of the world (and he was no McCain). Look what rose out of that! Doubters you all!! Nobody I wish to follow.
(I'll vote, but the nose holding starts on election day)
That's a good point about the bus Phil, And of course many things could change between now and November. It is not a foregone conclusion that McCain will be the Republican nominee.
But I suggest you may be misinterpreting my remarks. I neither like nor support McCain. I mostly agree with the criticisms leveled at him here and elsewhere.
I'm speaking to those who say they will not vote, who will 'sit out' the election completely because their every need isn't being met.
You say you will vote, presumably for the Republican candidate even if McCain. That's good. And that also means my remarks are not directed toward you.
Phil....it's later than you think..Super Tuesday is less than a week away...and that appears to be the day that will decide the nominee for both parties..we'll just have to wait and see.
FYI..further down this thread I point out that McCain wasn't my first or second choice but he looks like the choice we'll get...lets all pull on the rope together and win this thing. To paraphrase Churchill, ...
"But if we fail, the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age, made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted Democratic Party policies".
Your bio is indeed impressive. I'm 45, been a gym rat for most of my life but can't claim a bench press much above 200 these days. When you going to publish a book based on your life/experience?
I'm still waiting on Buddy's book of great quips.
Phil G....I've got the book outlined. I've even purchased screenwriting software since I know from my Beverly Hills days that if a screenplay isn't in the proper format it is immediately trashed..
Here's my challenge .. it took me five years going via the FOIA to get my records from the CIA and the FBI and then they were totally incomplete. I'm really no longer interested in going through their censors , which I am by law bound to do, only to have every other line redacted, requiring a carosel of re-writes and more redactions. I don't need the headaches. I know what I've done which is just fine with me. Many others made great contributions also.
I don't need the money and would prefer to not loose my anonymity. But my life so far has been a helluva ride and I am greatful I've made it this far. There were some high pucker factor moments but now they're just memories.
However thanks for the encouragement.
PS. I'm a big guy now after a life of being a gym rat. In the Corps I was 185 @ 6'2" ..that figure is now 245 @the same height. I have a full gym in my homes, Smith machines, cable crossovers, etc and my wife enjoys working out too (she's a second degree blackbelt).... 300 pounds 10 x a year ago. It was a proud moment. I also pistol, rifle , and skeet shoot...life is good .. .. but I still have a real dislike for our enemies, domestic and foreign and if called to perform would do what was required. I prefer not to die peacefully in bed.
What ticks me off is we have a bunch of arses in the country that won't vote for a good Mormon because he's a good Mormon. I'll for McCain, if I have to.
Only a Mormoan could make the good assessment.
That MorMitt hasn't violated his secret oath of allegiance to a heretical prophet and cause could only be judged by folks privy to it but that presumably would be the standard for good.
That he is a Mormon is reason enough to not vote him President.
That he is not a Republican but in name, is another.
That he championed Massachusett's mandatory health care system is another.
That he would discuss secret timed withdrawals he would have with Iraqi leadership with a reporter is another.
That he crys when other's remind him of that gaff is another.
That his right to life stance is politically motivated and not predicated by moral principal is another.
That he has zero experience in national security matters is another.
That he would send new illegal aliens back where they came from, suggests he would not address same remedy for the 20 million who are already here.
The list goes on...
The list goes on
Will support him too, if I have to. Am for Romney so far. I have not seen evidence yet that McCain has a handle on or an understanding of the Northern border. I am not a fan of his temperment and a long time Washington Senator would not be my first choice for President, but will support the Republican nominee.
No arguments from me on your issues. Marc Sheppard of American Thinker nails it below regarding what's at stake:
"This, despite a resounding conservative outcry that no man, no matter his honorable service to our country, who would co-author illegal immigrant amnesty, carbon cap-and-trade and campaign finance bills, is worthy of the GOP nomination. Rush even went so far as to say that McCain's candidacy would "destroy the Republican Party."
With due respect to El-Rushbo, we enable the Democrat control hat-trick a November GOP loss would unleash at our own peril. Surely, no one doubts that such a troika would guarantee catastrophe brought on by weakened national security, higher taxes, and runaway pork-barrel spending while threatening our nation's outstanding health-care system. And that's just for unbridled-liberals-run-amok starters. Just wait till they lay their truly insane global warming solutions cards on the table -- the one's they've been holding close to the vest while awaiting a new dealer."
Rufus...you paying attention?
Clarifying the record.
John McCain was not my first or second choice, but he looks like the odds on favorite to win the nomination. I'm not into eating our young, (or old) in an internecine debate over the purity of what "conservatism is or isn't. I want the win.
But I watched the political landscape change, up close and personal, during Watergate. This nation has never been the same politically and it was then that the Democratic Party was taken over by the quintessence of the radical left and socialists. Their rank and file are stupefyingly clueless as to this countries Constitution, preferring instead to have a more Gumby like, make-it-up-as-you-go government. Absolument pas je dis.
So we go with our nominee with the guts we had at Okinawa and Normandy or we do what the frogs did when the Germans got too close to Paris..quit.
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Personally, I think McCain is not only getting senile, but is, quite likely, batshit crazy.
I'm voting for the Dem.
You're too polite (bet ya don't hear that one everyday) regarding the left being ignorant of the consitution. I believe they know it very well and have full intent on changing it where they can and ignoring it where they can't or better yet, stuff the bench with like minded and rule by fiat. If the fox does get into the hen house we can thank Rufus for their support and vote because he likes their energy policy. Hope Rufus ain't too hard on himself when they wreck America and don't even deliver the energy policy that he thought he was voting for.
Po li'l ol rufus
Done rekked Amerrica.
Get a grip, PG. There ain't a dime's worth of difference between McCain, and Hillary. Guarantee you; close your eyes, and two years into the term you won't have a clue who got elected.
I figure after 8 years of McHilabama the Pubs will be ready to "Re-Surge" (think Carter followed by Reagan,) and will likely elect a "Conservative" that will be able to undo the worst of the damage.
Guys, you gotta have a Dem every now and then. If the choice is "The Crazy One," or Hillary let's go ahead and get it over with Now.
That's a loser's gamble that I have no interest in participating in or experiencing. You're a single issue voter - energy - on that point you might be correct. I believe there's a lot more at stake and haven't become as cynical as you...yet.
I'm fine with a Dem every now and then as long as it isn't Clinton redux or someone as obviously socialist as well as inexperienced and niave as Obama and expecially given the Dem's hold on Senate and Congress. I'm a bit surprised at how flip you are given the stakes.
"That he is a Mormon is reason enough not to vote for him for President."
What ticks me off is we have a bunch of arses in this country that won't vote for a good Mormon because he is a good Mormon.
Cain't fathom how you come to same conclusion after gettin' so bold a hint.
Repeatin' pre-digested lines previosly gummed by holier than thou's is why y'all can't sit still when y'all come to the door a callin'.
Mark Levin does a pretty through job detailing the issues re McCain... and partially supports your thoughts as well rufus.
But still... vote for Hillary or Obama, not for all the tea in China would I do that.
BTW...I'll vote for Romney in the GA primary on Tuesday and hope he wins. I'm just sayin' if he don't, I'll hold my nose and vote McCain.
If you haven’t yet, check out McCain’s “Issues Focus”:
It’s got everything most ‘nuts, ‘bats and undecided could ever want. A bunch of populist greatest-hits type stuff? ...or can his feet actually be held to the fire on that list when the other powers that be inevitably ‘obstruct’ him?
And maybe one the shrinks might know what kind of guy he really is – I’m not exactly sure how his character building experiences have affected the “contentious” temperament he was born with.