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Sunday, March 30. 2014A Movie: The Gospel of JohnRe-posted - This 2003 movie, which had the misfortune of being overshadowed by Gibson's The Passion and was never released in theaters, would make a good Christmas present. Sticking tightly to the language and sequence of this very literary Gospel which was written 2 centuries after Christ's death, the 3-hour version captures all of the key moments of Christ's ministry, and is especially good at capturing the rabble-rousing, reckless and provocative style of his ministry and its inevitable culmination on the cross. It's easy to see why people wanted him out of the way - he was a big trouble-maker and no-one was insulated from his demands or his harsh judgements. Not a go-with-the-flow guy, and John depicts more the Jesus of Truth than the sweet Jesus of Love, yet love of God is the whole story. The role of Pilate is small but fascinating, and made it clear that we are all Pilates. What would I have done? Probably what Pilate did. Captain Vere in Billy Budd. The story of Pilate is a Greek tragedy, and I feel sympathy for his fate. My only complaint about the film is that Jesus spends more time talking about his relationship with God than he does preaching the rest of his message that was to change the world. I am not a Bible student - but that focus is a reflection of John's Gospel, which was a message to gentiles - "He is in me and I am in Him" - obviously not a message designed to engage the Jews of the time: "Crucify him. Crucify him." The Jews were not quite ready for a Messiah, nor is anyone, anywhere, any time. How are we to know whether a messiah is the real thing? Pilate is us, and the Jews are us. A holy dream in which we ourselves play every role, as we do in all dreams. Anyway, powerful and very moving stuff, and the narration by Plummer adds a lot. It is something special. Comments
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I was unaware of it. It's showing tonight. I'll TiVO it.
Thanks for the heads-up and the interesting comments on the movie. I'll have to check it out.
PS -- not to nitpick, but manuscript fragments of John's gospel date back to around AD 125. Even critical scholars who don't accept John as the author assume it was written around AD 90-100. Nitpick all you want!
Errors are us! We only try! Good flick, though. Nitpicking, Bishop John A.T. Robinson, 'The Priority of John' and 'Reading the New Testament' argues it might go back to the 50's. Nobody much believes a word he says though.
I'm watching it now. It was somewhat jolting to see the guy from Lost playing Christ.
It was released for a short time in Canada - I saw it in a movie house in Ottawa, Ontario in 2004, I think and then purchased the DVD.
It was a great movie and I got the impression John was speaking over the crowds to us, the future Christendom. It meant more to us in 2004 than the crowd in 30AD. I received it as a Christmas present from my wife in 2005.
I found this movie to be much more satisfying than Gibson's high drama "The Passion." Thanks for the reminder. . Thanks for the re-post BD, this might make a good Christmas gift for someone I know that is hard to buy for.
We used it in Sunday School (3rd to 5th grade) and the kids loved it. Actually it is great for adult and kid alike.
I believe that this is part of the visual bible series which includes Matthew and Acts. Both are well done too...and we used both in Sunday School My wife uses it in her Sunday School classes. I enjoyed it. Didn't care for "Passion of The Christ" though.
Small nit: manuscript fragments of John's Gospel exist from the early 2nd century, making it virtually certain it was written before the end of the first, likely about 60 years after then death of Christ.
"...we are all Pilates."
If only we got off so easy. We are all Judas. Clarifying the word "messiah" is essential.
The original Hebrew meaning is "annointed". In reference to people, it specifically refers to the POLITICAL leader of the Jewish people. descendant of King David. David himself was advised - and rebuked - by priests and prophets, in a rudimentary separation of powers. He was not himself a prophet or in any way supernatural - in fact, he was first and foremost a warrior who expanded the Israelite empire. Jews didn't reject Jesus because they "weren't ready to be saved" - they rejected the claim that he was "the messiah" - a Davidic king - because he did not succeed in restoring Jewish sovereignty - indeed the Temple was sacked and the Jews dispersed shortly after his execution. Historically he was one of thousands of young scholars and lay-preachers who participated in the rebellion against Rome - and suffered the same fate. Taking this word to mean "spiritual savior" - and shifting the messiah's mission exclusively to the spiritual plane - is a Christian innovation. In Jewish eyes, it's an attempt to explain away Jesus' obvious failure, and to reckon with the shock of the dispersion. It grates - and is inaccurate - when Christians apply this later apologetic recasting of the "messiah" idea to retroactively (and condescendingly) judge Jesus' Jewish contemporaries. Interpreting this word to imply a human being elevated to be a godhead marked THE essential break between Judaism and the gentile church. With this notion, Christianity crosses the line between Jewish monotheism and paganism. Me thinks, Jews or Gentiles embrace the god of this world, the devil when they reject King Jesus as LORD.
Me thinks, that's why such get on so well with Muhammadans. Movie was and probably still is, unimpressive next to The Passion . Another O/T nitpick:
It's not spelled "no-one." It is: "no one." As in no one. From Catholic Answers:"So all the evidence points to the accuracy of the Church’s tradition that John published his Gospel in Ephesus in the second half of the first century."
I'll have to watch this. On a related note, the problem with "The Passion",IMHO, is too much emphasis on the physical suffering of Jesus. Too little on what it accomplished.Subsequently, a tendency of man to equate physical suffering as a means to salvation.
available for free on youtube, all 3 hours!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7iybUnbrts After your previous recommendation, I bought the DVD. We used it in our Gospel study of John, watching the video as we followed along in our Bibles. Everyone liked it.
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--------- Maggie's Farm spotlights a really good and well done movie. I found it a powerfully moving emotional experience. Most people have formed a picture of Jesus Christ as a sort of mild-mannered wimp. While no human being could possibly portray Jesus fully, a bit of his powerful personality becomes evident. He was a man whose following was growing into the thousands as he travelled to Jerusalem for the Passover feast and his crucifixion. The religious…
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