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Tuesday, September 17. 2024

Tuesday morning links

 How To Talk To Terrified Children About Hotcoldwetdry


 EV Dealers Are So Desperate to Offload Stock That They're Offering Lease Deals For $20 a Month


 Hillary Clinton Says Americans Should Be Criminally Charged and Jailed for Spreading “Misinformation”


 CNN Destroys Kamala Harris Campaign For Spreading Disinformation on Social Media


Scientific American Endorses Kamala Harris, Persuading Nobody


Did the Mainstream Media K.O. Kamala?


 What Do You Call a Conspiracy to Assassinate Without the Conspiracy?


VDH:  The Deadly Get Trump Climate Continues….


Trump’s policies are far more popular than Harris’s, and it’s as simple as that






Posted by Bird Dog in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 08:00 | Comments (31) | Trackbacks (0)

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Hillary should be in prison for life, if spewing misinformation is a crime.
#1 ruralcounsel on 2024-09-17 09:37 (Reply)
Hillary and disinformation... "safe and effective" would pretty well clean out the entire admin state. Between the mandates and bribery attempts there would be few left in hospital administration and big pharma either. And the MSM would have to close down.
What to do with the inmates? Give them community service in the Ukraine.
#2 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-17 10:13 (Reply)
Throughout history, almost every conspiracy to assassinate a leader was carefully crafted to hide the conspiracy. Additionally almost every assassination conspiracy picked a hit man who could easily be passed off as a nut case. Even without that history it is logical that smart powerful people who might conspire to assassinate a leader would endeavor to hide their participation.

How did this latest would be assassin know where Trump would be that day? Someone had to tell him and very few people knew. The FBI knew and the Secret Service knew. So who told him?

Now if when this perp transported to trial some 2nd rate Mafia stooge already dying from cancer shoots him, THAT wouldn't raise suspicions would it? Assassins are supposed to be killed so that they can't tell tales.
#3 OneGuy on 2024-09-17 10:15 (Reply)
EV and green energy... make them compete in the market rather than having them cling to the government teat for decades. Reality might be tough for them to handle but none of it will ever be useful or affordable is they are subsidized forever. The same thing happens to subsidized people... they never grow up or grow independent.
#4 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-17 10:20 (Reply)
Hillary says that Americans spreading propaganda should be criminally charged! Does anyone else see the irony in that?

A basic tenet of communism especially in the takeover/revolution phase, is to accuse your opponent of doing what you yourself are doing.
#5 JustMe on 2024-09-17 10:29 (Reply)
JustMe: Hillary says that Americans spreading propaganda should be criminally charged!

That's a misrepresentation of Clinton's views. She's referring to people getting money from foreign powers to interfere in the election, such as is detailed in the indictment against principals of Tennessee-based Tenet Media concerning their right-wing social media stars for taking Russian money to interfere in the election.

QUOTE:
Hillary Clinton: Russia Today, RT, is an arm of the Russian government, an arm of its intelligence operation. It's basically an extension of their spying efforts. They are using Americans, both those who are witting and willing and those who are unwitting, and are just so surprised they're getting you know $400,000 a week or $100,000 a podcast to parrot Kremlin propaganda. . .

Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda, and whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged, is something that would be a better deterrence, because the Russians are unlikely except in a very few cases to ever stand trial in the United States.

She's saying that those who were wittingly taking Russian money for election interference should be prosecuted, while those who were unwittingly involved should be held civilly liable, because the money was ill-gotten.

JustMe: A basic tenet of communism especially in the takeover/revolution phase, is to accuse your opponent of doing what you yourself are doing.

Marx was well known for taking video clips out of context to misrepresent capitalists.
#5.1 Zachriel on 2024-09-17 11:43 (Reply)
How does she feel about American citizens paying money to foreign agents to create entire dossier’s on their political opponents? Then destroying her illegal, personal computer network, after it had been subpoenaed as evidence in a criminal investigation. How does she feel about gangs of government conspirators, working to take out a political opponent? Yeah, she’s okay with all that. She’s okay with getting insider information for land deals - $1,000 becomes $100,000, oh wait, that was cattle futures. Whitewater made them more than a mere $100,000.

Speaking of Russia. Bill Clinton, just by pure happenstance, goes to Russia - while Hillary is Secretary of State - and collects $500,000 dollars for a speech. This is during the time that the Clinton Foundation was collecting millions in donations all centered around selling uranium. Uranium One eventually acquired by the Russian state owned Rosatom.

While the body count of known Clinton associates is absurd, nothing compares to the disaster in Benghazi. Who really knows what Hillary was up to in Libya. We do know that an unknown video was blamed for the attack on the compound and four Americans died. They died after they had continually called for more security personnel. Hillary giggling, “We came, we saw, he (Qaddafi) died.”

One thing about Hillary, she has a lot of nerve. She ain’t no ways tired of doing evil.

You truly are a putz.
#5.1.1 B. Hammer on 2024-09-17 12:48 (Reply)
Marx was making editorial comments in New York newspapers supporting Lincolns positions during the Civil War. Now I would really, really like to see "video clips" of Marx commenting on anything. Do you never tire of narrative creation. You hang around Hillary's narratives way too much.
#5.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-17 13:13 (Reply)
B. Hammer: How does she feel about American citizens paying money to foreign agents to create entire dossier’s on their political opponents?

Taking your first example: It's not illegal to pay a British national for a dossier on your opponent. Nor did Clinton even use the dossier during the campaign. Your other examples are equally misdirected.
#5.1.3 Zachriel on 2024-09-17 14:44 (Reply)
Oh, Zachie-poo, still defending the old battle axe. The campaign to unseat Donald Trump in 2020 began the day after the results were certified in 2016 and continued every day after that. But as we've seen you're fine with pols using disinfo as long as it serves your purpose.

Your ethics are flexible, I'll give you that much.
#5.1.3.1 SK on 2024-09-18 09:12 (Reply)
SK: But as we've seen you're fine with pols using disinfo as long as it serves your purpose.

What we posted is accurate, and it is accurate regardless of any opinion concerning Clinton. It is NOT illegal for a U.S. candidate to use campaign funds to pay a British national for a dossier on your opponent. It IS illegal for a foreign national or government to pay Americans or to use state intelligence services to influence a U.S. election. See 52 USC §30121. Do you see the difference?
#5.1.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-18 09:24 (Reply)
As for disinformation, Clinton didn't use the Steele Dossier during the campaign. The Dossier was considered raw intelligence. While some of it was questionable, much of it has been substantiated, including that the Russians were attempting to interfere in the election and were attempting to infiltrate the Trump campaign.
#5.1.3.3 Zachriel on 2024-09-18 09:40 (Reply)
"As for disinformation, Clinton didn't use the Steele Dossier during the campaign. The Dossier was considered raw intelligence. While some of it was questionable, much of it has been substantiated, including that the Russians were attempting to interfere in the election and were attempting to infiltrate the Trump campaign."

Once again, to your first point, which you keep making because it seems that's all you have, the Dossier was an interference in US presidential politics and part of the four year campaign to damage Donald Trump before the next election, the sort of thing you say Clinton was talking about. Clearly that doesn't bother you. Just be honest and say it.

You have a point in your second assertion. I absolutely believe that people with your bias and limited vision and the incompetents at the FBI would need the "Dossier" to tell them that the Russians were actually going to do what they always do. The rest of us already knew it. Tell the truth now, little fella, you believed Hilary's little red "Reset Button" was actually wired up to something, dincha?

Another example of Clinton's use of misinfo is the Alfa bank story, which you'll be happy to know was BEFORE the vote in 2016 and which was pushed to the press with Clinton's knowledge and approval. I'm sure that was OK too somehow.
#5.1.3.3.1 SK on 2024-09-18 16:21 (Reply)
SK: the Dossier was an interference in US presidential politics and part of the four year campaign to damage Donald Trump before the next election, the sort of thing you say Clinton was talking about.

Americans putting out damaging information about a candidate is not illegal, which was the implication made above. That the Trump campaign was cavalier about Russian interference is on them.
#5.1.3.3.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-18 16:51 (Reply)
The implication was that Clinton is a hypocrite who wants to stifle speech she doesn't like using the threat of financial ruin and/or prison terms.


"Democrats using Russian disinfo to damage a candidate is not illegal [though FBI leveraging it to secure FISA warrants likely is]. That the Clinton campaign were cavalier about helping the Russians interfere in US elections before and after 2016 is on them."

Fixed for ya, little buddy! Happy to help!
#5.1.3.3.2.1 SK on 2024-09-18 17:21 (Reply)
SK: The implication was that Clinton is a hypocrite who wants to stifle speech she doesn't like using the threat of financial ruin and/or prison terms.

So, the discussion has gone from a misrepresention of Clinton’s statement to suggesting the Dossier was illegal to her being a hypocrite. Quite the journey.

SK: Democrats using Russian disinfo to damage a candidate is not illegal

The information concerning Russian election interference and attempts to infiltrate the Trump campaign have been substantiated. Contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian agents were found to have constituted a “grave counterintelligence threat.”
#5.1.3.3.2.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-18 19:56 (Reply)
Looks like our resident bot has made its way to the Pirates page.
#6 Maniac on 2024-09-17 10:43 (Reply)
The only other blog besides MF that hasn't banned the Quibble-DickZ.
Keeps them around for the extra clicks one would guess.
#6.1 Zachinoff on 2024-09-17 14:37 (Reply)
Goddamn, that woman is IGNORANT, vile and repulsive. Her obituary will be as a shining light for humanity.
#7 Tallywhagger on 2024-09-17 11:08 (Reply)
re What Do You Call a Conspiracy to Assassinate Without the Conspiracy?

Well, there is this:

Both Trump Assassins In Black Rock Video

https://x.com/NowPammsy/status/1835725758334914714?t=G1R34hadGm4qTpg6XuLxeA&s=09
#8 feeblemind on 2024-09-17 11:27 (Reply)
Wow. That’s crazy. I bet Dick Cheney, Hillary Clinton and Kamala all own Black Rock stock. Donald Trump doesn’t own Black Rock stock.

Gibbs’s rule 39: There is no such thing as a coincidence.

Are there more assassins in that video?

Only 20% of me thinks what I wrote is snark. Thanks democrats.
#8.1 B. Hammer on 2024-09-17 12:06 (Reply)
Here are stills from the clip:

https://x.com/PaulZaky/status/1835758746322010561?t=hyC99Fo7gkGuYPPDgP-c4w&s=09

And then there is this:

Assassin Was Able to Hang Around Trump Golf Course for 12 Hours

https://www.frontpagemag.com/assassin-was-able-to-hang-around-trump-golf-course-for-12-hours/
#8.1.1 feeblemind on 2024-09-17 12:23 (Reply)
Ryan Routh, suspect in apparent Trump assassination attempt, wasn’t in BlackRock ad
#8.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2024-09-17 12:26 (Reply)
B. Hammer: Kamala all own Black Rock stock.

QUOTE:
According to Forbes estimates, Kamala Harris's net worth is roughly $8 million, mainly due to real estate properties she owns (more on that later). A Wall Street Journal analysis shows Kamala Harris and her husband are heavily invested in retirement accounts, with collective funds in the range of $1.79 million and $4.4 million. About half of the couple's portfolio is in stocks (mostly index funds), and the rest is in bonds and cash.
#8.1.2 Zachriel on 2024-09-17 12:24 (Reply)
You need to stay off of computers and the internet. You've had enough.
#8.2 jack walter on 2024-09-17 15:27 (Reply)
Whatever your views of Obama or Trump, they share one sterling attribute: they kept Hillary Clinton out of the Oval Office.
#9 JJM on 2024-09-17 12:32 (Reply)
Hot, Cold, Wet, Dry is just the updated version of chicken little and the sky is falling. But the grift does pay quite well.
#10 indyjonesouthere on 2024-09-17 13:21 (Reply)

Scientific American Endorses Kamala Harris, Persuading Nobody


Scientific American: two lies in just two words, for pretty much all of this century.
#11 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2024-09-17 14:35 (Reply)
Someone, most likely Mossad, rigged pagers used by Hezbollah so that they could be exploded when paged. Wow! Brilliant!
#12 OneGuy on 2024-09-17 19:06 (Reply)
Hello, Akhmed?
#12.1 Zachinoff on 2024-09-17 21:28 (Reply)
TRump needs Mossad protection: ask BIBI
#13 ns on 2024-09-18 15:02 (Reply)

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