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QUOTE: "And all of this is illegal and unconstitutional." Given original intent, when the Fourteenth Amendment was enacted, affirmative action to help Blacks was considered consistent with Equal Protection. OneGuy: You are excusing and glorifying racism.
The claim was that the U.S. Constitution forbade affirmative action; however, under original intent, it did not. The States and the United States caused damage to Blacks, not only with slavery but through ensuing generations of oppression. Consequently, the institutions are morally and ethically liable. No full restitution is possible or even desirable; however, a recognition of past oppression and current systemic racism is essential for reconciliation. I just searched the constitution for those exact words and didn't find it. Are you sure you are talking about the U.S. constitution. Perhaps you haven't heard of it.
Affirmative action was and is another phrase for racism. It was wrong when implemented and is still wrong today. A viable solution is to get better teachers and administrators more interested in teaching reding, writing and arithmetic and to ensure everyone graduates high school with grade 12 abilities in these academic areas. THEN you wouldn't need to excuse their inability to go to college or get a job. We also need to end welfare it encourages and glorifies sloth and dependence. And of course actively deport anyone who came to this country illegally or who is in this country illegally. THAT would open up jobs and housing for our dependent classes. OneGuy: I just searched the constitution for those exact words and didn't find it. Are you sure you are talking about the U.S. constitution.
The United States is a common law nation. Courts are charged with interpreting the provisions of the law and the Constitution. See Marbury v. Madison. This brings up the question of how to interpret the Constitution. One main school of thought, often associated with conservatism, is that the judiciary should interpret the Constitution in accordance with the understanding of its framers. OneGuy: Affirmative action was and is another phrase for racism. It is no more discrimination than is requiring someone who has injured you to pay compensation. We already mentioned this, but you ignored it. "It is no more discrimination than is requiring someone who has injured you to pay compensation."
IF it were that I would be all in. It isn't. What it is and always was is taxing and discriminating against someone who never injured anyone to pay compensation to someone else who was never injured. And worse, it was done for the cynical reason to divide a nation to coerce an entire race to vote for the racist Democrats who were the very ones that discriminated against blacks in the first place. It has a terrible history and purpose not to help blacks but to harm whites with the intent of permanently dividing a nation to make them easier to rule over. and THAT is the real reason you are crying crocodile tears that it is over; you want the discrimination and division.
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2023-08-22 15:20
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OneGuy: IF it were that I would be all in.
And if the persecution had stopped after the Civil War—but it didn't. Are you suggesting that States and the United States did not engage in generations of oppression even after the Civil War? But they did, so there is a moral and ethical obligation to make restitution. We are against reparation, though not because of your ahistorical argument that there is no debt. Reconciliation won't come from monetary compensation, but will come only by facing the truth. OneGuy: What it is and always was is taxing and discriminating against someone who never injured anyone to pay compensation to someone else who was never injured. What are you taking about? This person, Elizabeth Eckford, is still alive, and the state of Arkansas is still in existence. And Eckford is just one of millions who suffered oppression under the color of law.
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2023-08-22 17:17
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2023-08-22 20:44
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Do you actually believe that only black former slaves and descendant of slaves were oppressed? Every ethnic group and religious group suffered oppression. Should they all get free stuff forever? White men are denied their equal rights and have been for decades so that black men and women could go to the head of the line. Should they get reparations and free stuff forever? Why ONLY people who are the same color as those who were slaves some 160 years ago? What about Europeans who came here as indentured "slaves"? Why should anyone get free stuff because of something that happened 165 years ago. Last week someone cut in line in front of me should my kids get compensated for the rest of their lives? Where does it end? Why should it even have ever begun? It's just racism pure and simple.
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2023-08-22 20:49
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Maybe it's the water at Maggie's Farm.
Z: We are against reparation OneGuy: Should they all get free stuff forever?
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2023-08-23 07:23
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Are you so uninformed that you don't know our welfare costs about $1.5 trillion a year? That's a LOT of free stuff.
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2023-08-23 15:32
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OneGuy: What about Europeans who came here as indentured "slaves"?
Indentured servants either voluntarily sold their labor for a period of time or were convicted of crimes. Indentured servitude is not racist-based chattel slavery, which not only involuntarily bound a Black person for life, but their children and their children's children. And it didn't stop there. Even after slavery was ended, the racial oppression continued. OneGuy: White men are denied their equal rights and have been for decades White men being denied their rights. OneGuy: something that happened 165 years ago. Ruby Bridges and thousands like her are alive today.
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2023-08-23 07:37
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Yes Ruby faced discrimination! EXACTLY the same discrimination that white men face today. DUH!
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2023-08-23 15:31
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Wow. Just wow. How long will white people be kept out of the corridors of power?!
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2023-08-23 15:43
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Understanding The Parasitic Cooperation Between Globalists And Leftists
QUOTE: It’s a system of blind belief and the invasion of a cult that worships itself, that worships power and seeks to undermine the truth whenever possible as a means to an end. We are witnessing history in the making; the birth of a monstrous religion of moral relativism. https://alt-market.us/understanding-the-parasitic-cooperation-between-globalists-and-leftists/ Wow. Dirty Old Joe’s visit to Maui was even worse than I thought it would be.
Yeah. We heard Biden pet a rescue dog.
..and looked like a malfunctioning Disney animatronic while doing so.
To his credit, Biden didn't pull its tail or try to sniff its hair. There is a rumor that right after Biden petted the dog it immediately bit a Secret Service agent so we're not entirely there yet. But still, Biden was glad to visit Idaho and sample the country's 57th state's ice cream for himself. He wanted to get in some snowmobiling but unfortunately due to global warming the snowmobiling season has been cut short in Honduras. Idaho. Iraq. Whatever. Biden doesn't care what the name of the state is, he's permanently in a state of befuddlement. Now where's that damn lawnmower I ordered 20 minutes ago? You think I'm kidding but I'm not. My word as a Biden.
"Livid Hawaiians Slam Biden For Cracking Jokes, Lying About Wife"
They are livid but they will still vote for Biden and the Democrats.
Submitted above before I was done. martin (quoting): {Some} "Livid Hawaiians Slam Biden For Cracking Jokes, Lying About Wife"
{Some} people are livid. QUOTE: “You guys catch the boots out here? That’s a hot ground, man”. Yup. He petted a rescue dog and wanted people to see that the canine hero was wearing boots to protect its feet. What a monster! QUOTE: "national travedy." Just like {some} people to make fun of a person who has struggled with a stutter all his life. QUOTE: Fact check: Biden is lying. "The fire was under control in 20 minutes" is not "the fire was out." As with most house fires, it probably smouldered for hours. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden on Monday told survivors of Hawaii’s wildfires that the nation “grieves with you” and promised that the federal government will help Maui “for as long as it takes." Biden signed disaster relief immediately after receiving the request from Hawaii. QUOTE: Governor Josh Green: Aloha . . . We have already received massive assistance from FEMA and other federal agencies, and we are especially grateful to President Biden for his support and partnership. From the first hours of the disaster, he offered every resource to aid our response, immediately ordering the U.S. Coast Guard and Navy 3rd Fleet to support our rescue and relief efforts, and issuing a Presidential Disaster Declaration within hours of our request. I have invited the President and the First Lady to visit Maui next week when it can be done safely and in a way that will support our recovery efforts. Biden says “Jill and I have a little sense of what it’s like to lose a home” and then tells the story of when lightning struck his house in 2004 and says “I almost lost my ’67 corvette and my cat.”
Talk about tragedy. Zachriel: What doesn't it know?
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Well, the Left could volunteer for a national Don't Exhale! Day... '14 American Cities Aim to Ban Meat, Dairy, Private Cars by 2030'
I doubt we'll even make it that far. They will all wind up with the same economy as East St. Louis.
its American members include Austin, Boston, Chicago, Houston...
Oh, goody. Now every carnivorous East and Central Texan will be coming to San Antonio for bean-and-cheese tacos, brisket, and barbecue. I sure hope they like cilantro and green chile salsa, 'cause we gots lots. The "Old School Higher Ed" link was real life experience. Kept showing there was some error then came up with "look at our other writings" and you only have 2 left before you got to pay through the nose.
Yep, that's higher ed But real old school higher ed was at best.... QUOTE: The idea is, of course, that men are successful because they have gone to college. No idea was ever more absurd. No man is successful because he has managed to pass a certain number of courses and has received a sheepskin which tells the world in Latin, that neither the world nor the graduate can read, that he has successfully completed the work required. If the man is successful, it is because he has the qualities for success in him; the college "education" has merely, speaking in terms' of horticulture, forced those qualities and given him certain intellectual tools with which to work—tools which he could have got without going to college, but not nearly so quickly. So far as anything practical is concerned, a college is simply an intellectual hothouse. For four years the mind of the undergraduate is put "under glass," and a very warm and constant sunshine is poured down upon it. The result is, of course, that his mind blooms earlier than it would in the much cooler intellectual atmosphere of the business world. A man learns more about business in the first six months after his graduation than he does in his whole four years of college. But—and here is the "practical" result of his college work—he learns far more in those six months than if he had not gone to college. He has been trained to learn, and that, to all intents and purposes, is all the training he has received. To say that he has been trained to think is to say essentially that he has been trained to learn, but remember that it is impossible to teach a man to think. The power to think must be inherently his. All that the teacher can do is help him learn to order his thoughts—such as they are. Marks, Percy, "Under Glass", Scribner's Magazine Vol 73, 1923, p 47 And Percy Marks is the guy who got run out of Dartmouth after he wrote the book, The Plastic Age, that exposed higher ed for its true nature. Made into the 'Animal House' of 1926 with Clara Bow. Legendary CA punk band the Minutemen will have to be cancelled?
History Lesson Part II is so Dylanesque and only Beck-Sea Change has that quality from any album of the past 30 years. We'll just have to ban everything as Jello Biafra mocked on a spoken word album, his former band the Dead Kennedys got cancelled with lawfare back in 1986 for including the HR Giger Penis Landscape painting as an album insert. Land of the fee and the home of the knave, can't happen here? It already has. |