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Well, that CNN article read almost exactly like one would expect from a CNN article. The only thing missing was a line about orange haired property developers being the root of all evil, but maybe that was dropped because the article is in the business section.
"safety concerns" was buried deep in the list of reasons why stores are closing. As if having all your inventory stolen was a minor inconvenience.
I never felt virtuous in a mask. I occasionally put one on as a precondition of entering a place I needed to get into, but that didn't last long here in rural Texas.
I did isolate quite a lot, until it became clearer how transmissible COVID was and how truly dangerous it was. Whether wrongly or not, I felt protected after I was vaccinated, and gave it little thought afterwards. Until then, I figured any place too dangerous to enter without a mask was too dangerous to go in the first place, because I never believed a mask was much help. In the end, either we had asymptomatic cases or we never caught it at all. Neither of us was ever tested. Vaccination? Natural immunity? Luck? I guess we'll never know. Those Karens insisting that you wear the mask are still out there and you will see this play out all over again. The reason is simple, the mask is a visible indicator of your faith and beliefs and it is like wearing a tee shirt with a political slogan on it. Refusing to comply with someone's strong beliefs is like a slap in the face to them. It is like the Taliban beating women who don't cover their faces. You cannot just do what you want and the Karens will force you back into line. It will happen again and the science doesn't matter.
Texan99: In the end, either we had asymptomatic cases or we never caught it at all.
Statistically, the vaccine meant that, if you were exposed, you were less likely to contract symptomatic COVID or severe COVID. QUOTE: Remember how virtuous you felt when you were tooling around town in your anti-virus mask? . . . A new study from Germany … suggests that the excess carbon dioxide breathed in by mask-wearers may have substantial ill-effects on their health The study isn't a systematic review, but a "scoping review," which can only reasonably point towards more research. The lead author, Kai Kisielinski, describes himself as an independent researcher and surgeon. Notably, surgeons regularly wear masks, as do dentists, painters, workers in chemical plants, and technicians in medical laboratories. JustMe: Those Karens insisting that you wear the mask are still out there and you will see this play out all over again.
Masks are not generally required at this time. Masks are recommended when COVID levels are locally high, for people who are immune compromised, or in medical facilities where other people may be immune compromised. I wore an anti-virus mask because I trusted the science. Same reason when I feel a bit out of sorts I'll open a vein and do a little blood-letting. Or apply leeches to my forehead to cure migraines or a nice boiled frog poultice to my elbows for the grippe or breathe in hickory smoke to balance my humors or keep a lodestone in my pocket to fight high blood pressure. I trust the science!
The Oakland city schools fail their children so miserably that they will never become self supporting adults, no wonder the teachers are demanding reparations!
Many people have put this period behind them, in the way that people will learn to repress unpleasant memories. Because it was society-wide, in a way it's easier to dismiss it.
But I think we, as a society, were in real danger for a while there. Partly from the pandemic effects, but moreso from the horrible public policy measures that have proven to be unsupportable in the fairness of history, which were steamrolled without reason or supported explanation over our society. Millions died, yes that it true. Most of them were in compromised health or very old. But billions were vaccinated with an experimental product that was bum-rushed through the standard experimental safety and integrity measures, administered under pressure when they probably were at very low risk. And the data has been compromised by diktats on reporting. There's a meme clip out there now, featuring all of the talking heads in media and politics speaking forcefully (at the time) of how unvaccinated people were the threat, they should be prosecuted/rounded up/ shunned etc. - and all children from infancy should be jabbed, although their risk is minuscule. I quietly watched and laid in supplies, and brought my children home to work from here. Caught it 3 times, no big deal for me, slightly worse for the missus. But this contagion, as dangerous as it was, let another contagion loose on the land, in my opinion - an authority-driven, fear-parlayed madness. We aren't past it yet, because those at the sharp end have been carefully managing their professional exits and are now busy with their gaslight and whitewash. We even have some, FJB included, saying they 'never told us that we must get vaccinated.' Really? All those fired people just up and quit, huh? Don't forget, and don't let them forget, either. Look at what they did in Canada and Australia. Two countries that you would have thought would never abridge human rights in these ways. Shameful! And worse, intentional. By the time the worst of what the Australian and Canadian governments did they knew that the science did not support their repressive actions. I am a supporter of the police but, I think that every cop who used violence on citizens to enforce these illegal and repressive actions should be fired. And the mounted policemen in Canada who rode over and killed that guy in a wheelchair they should go to jail.
Another example: Those six cops in LA who caught and arrested the lone surfer in the ocean should be laughed off the police force and never allowed to work in law enforcement again. What in the hell were they thinking??? JustMe: By the time the worst of what the Australian and Canadian governments did they knew that the science did not support their repressive actions.
Science:
Australia, 789 Canada, 1361 USA, 3474 Population Density:
Australia: 9 people / square mile Canada: 11 people / square mile United States: 91 people / square mile* * not including about 15-20 million illegal immigrants. I wonder, does population density have anything whatsoever to do with the spread of contagious disease? You didn't mention it. Aggie: I wonder, does population density have anything whatsoever to do with the spread of contagious disease?
The countries of comparison were from JustMe's comment. Most of the population of Canada and Australia are crowded within a few metropolitan areas. A fifth of Australia's population is crowded into Sydney with a population density of 2000/km^2. Toronto has a population density of over 4000/km^2. If you prefer, you might compare South Korea to the United States. The population density of South Korea is more than 14 times that of the United States, but the COVID death rate in South Korea was 1/5 that of the United States.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-16 15:15
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Aggie: I wonder, does population density have anything whatsoever to do with the spread of contagious disease?
You bring up an important point, though. Respiratory illnesses are spread by proximity. Hence, social distancing and masking, which increase the effective distance between people, can be important countermeasures to the spread of contagion
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Zachriel
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2023-05-16 15:24
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Yes, especially if those assertions were to be true.
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Aggie
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2023-05-16 15:25
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Aggie: Yes, especially if those assertions were to be true.
You reasonably brought up population density. Social distancing clearly increases the effective distance between people.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-16 15:36
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There are a number of factors that play into those "stats".
Our government paid hospitals for covid deaths and the hospitals "produced" covid deaths to get the money. We literally do not know what all those people died from. In fact many died from the drugs used to treat covid and many died from the vaccine itself. Gov Como and a few others caused tens of thousands of deaths by putting covid positive people into nursing homes. An incredibly stupid act among a plethora of stupid acts by our federal and state governments. Many/most of the people who died during covid were very old or very sick or literally on their death beds. Yes some viable young people died but ironically far more viable young people died from the vaccine and the actions by governments. We in the U.S. produce massive amounts of data including health and deaths data. Many countries do not or they produce data with low accuracy. And many countries intentionally produce data that benefits and compliments the political ruling party; in other words they lie and misreport. This is the number one reason why Japan and South Korea had low covid death rates, they lied, simple as that. Did Australia and Canada lie??? Knowing what their governments did and other things they tried to hide I believe that both Australia and Canada lied to make their leaders look good. JustMe: many died from the vaccine itself.
Excess deaths tracked the count of COVID deaths before the vaccine was available.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-16 16:45
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No one is saying that there weren't covid deaths just as in previous years there were flu deaths (but strangely none during covid, hmmmm). But it is likely that many of the deaths early on in the fake pandemic were seasonal flu deaths and other deaths related to old age. After the vaccine became available many deaths were caused by the vaccine and Remidesivir. The vaccine continues to kill people and now most reoccurring covid is amongst the vaccinated. At this point it is obvious that this was an engineered virus intended to do exactly what it did and there is growing evidence that the vaccine was also engineered to kill.
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JustMe
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2023-05-16 18:32
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JustMe: No one is saying that there weren't covid deaths just as in previous years there were flu deaths (but strangely none during covid, hmmmm).
There were very few influenza cases because social distancing and masking reduced the spread of influenza. JustMe: But it is likely that many of the deaths early on in the fake pandemic were seasonal flu deaths Turns out that there is a test for influenza. During the 2020-2021 flu season, only 0.2% of clinical samples tested positive for an influenza virus.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-17 08:32
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The Unvaccinated are Scum ... Compilation video
from the conservativetreehouse blog 05/14/2023 They changed the definition of cause of death They changed the definition of a vaccine They used 45 cycle PCR test The statistics of excess deaths supports the COVID death count. When COVID was prevalent, excess deaths increased. When COVID waned, excess deaths decreased.
Those are CDC statistics. Those bastards are no more truthful than the FBI, CIA, or the DOJ. They are just another compromised institution creating their own statistical cache for further grifting and chaos creation.
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/a-miscarriage-of-statistics- the-thalidomide https://dailyclout.io/excess-mortality-goes-mainstream-in-earth-shattering-ed-dowd-tucker-carlson-interview/ In due time, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, there will be a reconning and it will not benefit the Covid promoters. indyjonesouthere: Those are CDC statistics.
The same pattern played out in other countries. Excess deaths tracked COVID surges. No it didn't. Countries that were on Ivermectin (a good share of Africa except the Arab north and South Africa) had few cases. And medical facilities that used and were allowed to use Ivermectin had excellent results. The CDC, NIH, FDA are the same institutional gangsters that occupy the FBI, CIA, DOJ institutions. Excess deaths are better tracked by those who got the vaxx as there is no reliable way to track Covid using the highly useless PCR test and "death by Covid" definition. Comorbidities were never figured into the Covid numbers, only dying with a positive Covid test. So what did they actually die from ... comorbidities or Covid? And high covid numbers were subsidized by government payouts. Works a lot like payouts for positive AGW feedback. They bought the results they needed for a lockdown and mail in voting. Nice scam and all paid for by the taxpayer.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-05-17 12:50
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indyjonesouthere: Countries that were on Ivermectin (a good share of Africa except the Arab north and South Africa) had few cases.
Most African countries have weak death registration systems, so most cases were never reported. Nigeria, for instance, only recorded 10% of all deaths. However, excess deaths generally increased when COVID surged. indyjonesouthere: And medical facilities that used and were allowed to use Ivermectin had excellent results. Even if were true (it's not), that wouldn't support your claim the statistics concerning COVID deaths in the United States are in error.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-17 13:32
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If a patient had two to six comorbidities and had a positive covid test, what did the patient die from? The new rules said they died of Covid. What did they die from when next to none were even autopsied?
The definition changes AND the crappy PCR test AND the bonus dollars provided all that was necessary to work the lockdown. The excess deaths were from the VAXX. Read the Dowd piece. It is the future of the money grubbing medical establishment and regulatory agencies when they face their reconning.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-05-17 14:07
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indyjonesouthere: If a patient had two to six comorbidities and had a positive covid test, what did the patient die from?
This isn't a new process. Certification of the cause of death is done by physicians, medical examiners, and coroners, under procedures that vary somewhat between states, but always based on their best medical judgment. If someone, for instance, is obese and has diabetes, but dies of respiratory failure while infected with SARS-CoV-2, then that is typically counted as a COVID death. Per the CDC, COVID should not be reported on the death certificate, if it didn't contribute to death. In any case, the COVID death count closely tracks the excess death count across time. When SARS-CoV-2 is prevalent, then COVID deaths increase, and excess deaths increase. indyjonesouthere: The excess deaths were from the VAXX. That is incorrect, as excess deaths tracked COVID outbreaks before the vaccine was available.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-17 14:46
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You didn't read Dowd nor have you read any insurance company excess deaths information. The Vaxx is the killer and also the increased disability causation. The CDC has been lying through its teeth from day one of the panic. Get the vaxx and you're protected, get the vaxx and you won't pass the covid. Endless, endless lies ... and you keep spreading the lies. As I said, the reconning will call all of them out.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-05-17 16:02
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indyjonesouthere: You didn't read Dowd
We did. He misrepresented the statements of an insurance executive who has said that the pandemic is the cause in the spike of deaths, and that they have increased insurance premiums in areas with low vaccination rates. indyjonesouthere: The Vaxx is the killer That doesn't explain the hundreds of thousands who died before the vaccine was available.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-17 16:17
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You ever hear of the flu and flu season. Naaaah, it couldn't be. What happened to all the flu cases?
And you misrepresented the Fortune 500 cases. Those insured and vaxxed executives suffered higher mortality and now they are going to pay more for being vaxxed. Pay extra for being poisoned. Tough luck.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-05-17 18:11
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indyjonesouthere: You ever hear of the flu and flu season.
Turns out that there is a test for influenza. During the 2020-2021 flu season, only 0.2% of clinical samples tested positive for an influenza virus. There were very few influenza cases because social distancing and masking reduced the spread of influenza.
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Zachriel
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2023-05-17 21:31
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Unable to access Maggie's Farm this morning, using Firefox - it reverts to a DOS-based 'Query Failed' screen. I was only able to get in by using the archive sub-group then navigating to today's page. Also with Brave. Now is first time in two days I can access Maggie.
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