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The left is wrong on so many things you cannot escape the conclusion that it must be intentional. Who is running the left, telling them what to do? Some of their policies and plans are contrary to our country's survival and they seem to embrace this idea. Is it as simple as money? Are they being bought off by the Chinese? Is this how our country falls with the Chinese buying our leaders for a few millions?? Can love of country be bought that easy? There should be a name for this... Treason!
Office of Environmental Justice: The Brandon Gepettos understand the ratchet effect. Staff an office with civil service folks; and it becomes as permanent as lawsuits and civil service protection laws can make it.
I worry such an office will operate completely outside the law, issuing edicts and determining rules based on the whims of those in charge.
You mean like the EPA, DOJ, DOE, CIA, FBI, BATF, etc. have done?
OneGuy: You mean like the EPA, DOJ, DOE, CIA, FBI, BATF, etc. have done?
Only departments and agencies that are authorized by Congress can pass regulations on the public. When they do, they must do so under the Administrative Procedure Act, which specifically includes judicial oversight. Rather than operating "outside the law" or "based on the whims of those in charge," agency regulations may not be arbitrary and capricious but must be supported by substantial evidence based on the whole record. When you refer to "...the Administrative Procedure Act, which specifically includes judicial oversight..." you fail to mention that Administrative Law judges are part of the bureaucracy they are supposed to oversee. Not surprisingly, many plaintiffs have felt that they were effectively denied an opportunity for impartial judicial review at the Federal level. As you may know (cf https://www.millercanfield.com/resources-SCOTUS-Expands-Path-to-Challenge-Authority-of-Administrative-Agencies-in-Federal-Court.html) there has been some pushback recently about this.
You should at least mention your source when you directly plagiarize. Though, you did change a few words.
"Only agencies that are authorized by Congress can promulgate rules that have the force of law. When agencies do so, they must comply with the Administrative Procedure Act, which includes judicial review. Instead of acting "outside the law" or "at the whim of bureaucrats," agency regulations may not be arbitrary and capricious but must be based on evidence and reasoned decision-making." Source: Congressional Research Service, "The Rulemaking Process in the Federal Government: An Overview" (March 16, 2021) That was beautiful.
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SK
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2023-04-22 17:47
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eeyore: Source: Congressional Research Service, "The Rulemaking Process in the Federal Government: An Overview" (March 16, 2021)
Please provide a link to the document with that title and date. No results found for "The Rulemaking Process in the Federal Government".
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Zachriel
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2023-04-23 08:00
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Hairless Joe: you fail to mention that Administrative Law judges are part of the bureaucracy they are supposed to oversee
While Administrative Law Judges are considered part of the executive branch, they have substantial independence, including immunity from their official acts, and protection from undue interference by the agencies involved. Furthermore, their decision can be potentially appealed to a federal judicial court (albeit, often requiring applying through the Circumlocution Office, the most important Department under Government). Hairless Joe: Supreme Court Expands the Path to Challenge the Authority of Administrative Agencies in Federal Court The Axon decision is a bit different, as it concerns a constitutional challenge, a challenge the Administrative Court is not qualified to judge. However, it does indicate that the Supreme Court would be amenable to an easier pathway to the federal courts, at least in some cases. eeyore: You should at least mention your source when you directly plagiarize. "Arbitrary," "capricious," "substantial evidence," and "whole record" are found in 5 U.S. Code § 706. You can find the terms in many different court decisions, as well. "Arbitrary," "capricious," "substantial evidence," and "whole record" are found in 5 U.S. Code § 706. You can find the terms in many different court decisions, as well."
And in dictionaries! Lotsa places!!! You got caught--now you're just making a fool of yourself.
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SK
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2023-04-22 17:59
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SK: And in dictionaries!
The terms are not random or but are in the statute under discussion. Consequently, they are terms of art. If you discuss the Administrative Procedure Act, then you will often use the terms arbitrary and capricious.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 20:21
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Especially if you crib the text from another source and change a few words.
You got caught.
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SK
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2023-04-23 09:20
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SK: Especially if you crib the text from another source and change a few words.
Please provide a link to the purported source: Congressional Research Service, "The Rulemaking Process in the Federal Government: An Overview" (March 16, 2021)
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Zachriel
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2023-04-23 09:23
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LTC Ted: Staff an office with civil service folks; and it becomes as permanent as lawsuits and civil service protection laws can make it.
Setting up offices in the White House is pretty much the domain of the executive. The White House Office of Environmental Justice can be dismantled by a future president, and civil service employees then reassigned. feeblemind: I worry such an office will operate completely outside the law, issuing edicts and determining rules based on the whims of those in charge. New regulations are enacted through the Administrative Procedure Act by authorized agencies of the U.S. government. Executive offices don't have the power to issue edicts to anyone outside the government unless authorized by law. There have been offices of environmental justice throughout the government for 30 years (executive order 12898). What this new executive order does is coordinate their efforts. Zachriel
Please define "Environmental Justice" for me. QUOTE: Environmental justice is the fair treatment and meaningful involvement of all people regardless of race, color, national origin, or income, with respect to the development, implementation, and enforcement of environmental laws, regulations, and policies. This goal will be achieved when everyone enjoys:
QUOTE: achieving environmental justice .... by identifying and addressing, as appropriate, disproportionately high and adverse human health or environmental effects of its programs, policies, and activities on minority populations and low-income populations in the United States Executive Order 12898, 1994 Then, why is it always unfair to men and white people?
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JustMe
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2023-04-22 13:21
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JustMe: Then, why is it always unfair to men and white people?
Huh? People of color and poor people nearly always suffer more pollution than other people.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 13:30
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California is bringing in CHP and also the National guard to get back control of open air drug sales and use and get some control of crapping in the streets. Thats health and environment and I don't think the wealthy are involved. We have tens of thousands coming over the open border with no health checks or even criminal checks and the vast majority are not "wealthy". No matter where you go in this world it is the poor that create the largest share of pollution.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 14:43
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Look for a polio or measles epidemic in a few months. Maybe Marburg or worse. Slouching towards Gomorrah. Is this suicide we are embracing or sabotage.
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OneGuy
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2023-04-22 15:42
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OK, how exactly does that differ from old fashion "justice" justice? More preferred outcomes for the Left?
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Hairless Joe
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2023-04-22 17:49
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Hairless Joe: OK, how exactly does that differ from old fashion "justice" justice?
It's a subset.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 20:06
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Of course the left wants to groom informers; we saw how willing, and with so much glee, democrats were to snitch on their fellow Americans after the Capital kerfuffle. Anyone who doesn’t think America could have their own Stasi isn’t paying attention.
And of course Biden has a new Office of Bullshit - the day’s not complete if he’s not spending money or increasing the size of government. It’s as ridiculous and ignorant as the mortgage proposal; only an ideologue would punish people doing the right thing to subsidize those who aren’t. Simply transferring PMI costs to the people who don’t need it. The first big push on snitching was inaugurating Earth Day in the public schools and getting teens and preteens to go all Greta on the parents and neighbors. The progressive marxists always know where to start the "snitch" procedures.
Re "Why trans movement is so intolerant": A sound article, which could be summarized as "Because they have devoted their lives to a fraud, an absurd, ridiculous charade, and cannot bear to hear what they know to be true."
FIRST: the queer community claimed their sexual orientation was "genetic". All the kind-hearted Protestants fell for that one and disassembled their religious beliefs. The Democrats are responsible for that sales job.
SECONDLY: The only group that from the beginning has had the freedom and the power--the immense power--to sell the queer community's claims is now and has always been HOLLYWOOD! Does anyone remember what they did to a very famous singer back in the 1970s? You can read about Anita Bryant on Wikipedia. The queer community had the ability then, just hadn't laid enough groundwork yet--but now they have. THIRD: it is very difficult to accept that some levels of autism are exemplified by the individual's need to be the center of attention at all times. You can see this autistic phenomenon in young children. Is it genetic or is it from family patterns? I don't know, but I do know that this is an important part of being queer, being in the queer community. You might also take a look at the piece in the bible that talks about gays and the military--they are banned from the military because it weakens the collective determination. Maybe those old guys in the Bible knew something about men sleeping with each other the night before battle !!! Do you suppose that maybe that's why our own communists(Democratic party) are so keen to install/approve homosexuality in our military--to weaken our ability to defend against other military aggression? Is that a long stretch--maybe. faculty wife: they are banned from the military because it weakens the collective determination.
Philip II said, upon the final destruction of the Sacred Band of Thebes, "Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly." That was a highly disciplined culture from birth to death. That scarcely applies to our current cultures in this country. The current Pentagon policy is free abortions for all even if we have to transport you to another state.
indyjonesouthere: That was a highly disciplined culture from birth to death.
And yet, they beat the Spartans at Tegyra and at Leuctra with smaller numbers, freeing Thebes from Spartan rule. That contradicts the original claim. And yet that discipline is not universal and does not apply in this country. We haven't won a war since WWII.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 14:46
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indyjonesouthere: And yet that discipline is not universal and does not apply in this country.
You are apparently trying to change the subject. (Don't blame the military for political failures. The American military is still the most formidable force in the world.)
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 14:48
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Comment below.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 15:05
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REPORT: Bud Light Marketing Exec Who Slammed 'Fratty' Culture On Leave Of Absence Amid Company Shakeup
https://dailycaller.com/2023/04/22/bud-light-marketing-exec-alissa-heinerscheid-leave-of-absence/ Your comment pulled from faculty wife, "they are banned from the military because it weakens the collective determination". Then my comment that the discipline is not universal and does not apply to this country.
You are deflecting again ... and not blame the military for political failures. We can't even retreat without creating chaos. That is not the hallmark of a formidable military and especially of a formidable military leadership. They could have resigned over foolish and ill thought orders but did not do so. And they still lead the military and we find out they are not even honest about the Ukraine. As I said, we do not have the military discipline we once had. And it shows up in the results. indyjonesouthere: Then my comment that the discipline is not universal and does not apply to this country.
Faculty wife introduced ancient warfare as confirmation of her bias. And she was right ... they were defeated even though they dominated their own culture. So why are we trying to emulate their defeat?
indyjonesouthere: they were defeated even though they dominated their own culture.
Philip II said, upon the final destruction of the Sacred Band of Thebes, "Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly." Aaaand ... They lost. All cultures are NOT equal. Cultures can degenerate only so far before they FAIL.
indyjonesouthere: They lost.
And the Spartans lost at Thermopylae. The Sacred Band won every battle for over a generation against the best fighters of the period, including the Spartans, who had never lost to a force inferior in numbers. That contradicts faculty wife's claim. The Sacred Band was annihilated by Philip II and Alexander using new tactics with Macedonian phalanxes and combined arms, because they refused to surrender and fought to the end. That also contradicts faculty wife's claim that their homosexuality "weakens the collective determination". Philip cried because he knew recognized their valiance. Really. Is that so hard to understand? Oh, it is easy to understand. Merely look at our own war history and look at the win column. Then look at the last few decades and at the lose column as there is no win column. Look at Russian tactics versus US/Ukraine tactics. Is that so hard to understand what happens to morally declining cultures? You and Phillip can blubber about defeat as you wish but it doesn't raise the dead and corrupted from dead/dying cultures.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 16:47
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indyjonesouthere: Oh, it is easy to understand.
The Sacred Band of Thebes fought valiantly from their inception even unto their destruction. Do you have evidence otherwise? That contradicts the claim. Ignoring that is not an argument.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 16:51
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They lost. Losers always lose. That's what happens to dying cultures. We fought valiantly in Korea, in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan and yet what were the end results? What was the sacred bands final results. And that WAS the FINAL result from them. Do you wish to emulate that final result in this country? All we need do is continue the moral decline in this country. Ignoring that is not an argument.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 16:59
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So, there have never been valiant warriors, because historical civilizations eventually declined. Greeks? Nobodies. Romans? Never amounted to much. Native Americans? Almost exterminated. British? Lost their empire. Ottomans? Deposed. Zulus? Colonized.
We’ll ask again. Are you saying the Sacred Band of Thebes didn’t fight valiantly from their inception even unto their destruction? Philip, Alexander, and the Spartans thought otherwise, and they faced them in battle. But what would they know about military valor.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 17:56
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Every culture you just mentioned rotted from the inside out. They each became a shadow of their former selves. Collapse always follows the hollowing out of amoral/immoral cultures. There are no exceptions in history. Cultures rise, rot, and disappear into the history pages. Giving the band kudos is just Phillips way of bragging about his victory. And what happened to Phillip or to Alexander for that matter? They could not maintain their civilizations culture and became footnotes in history. That is the direction we are going ... just another footnote. But our collapse will be well documented. Will leaders learn anything from the documentation. Doubtful.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 18:28
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You didn't answer, again.
indyjonesouthere: And what happened to Phillip or to Alexander for that matter? They could not maintain their civilizations culture and became footnotes in history. So now, Alexander's armies lacked military cohesion ("weakens the collective determination").
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 20:10
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indyjonesouthere: And what happened to Phillip or to Alexander for that matter? They could not maintain their civilizations culture and became footnotes in history.
Alexander is a footnote to history?! That is truly a bizarre claim.
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Zachriel
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2023-04-22 20:23
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Alexander is a footnote in history. Cultures last as long as leadership lasts that can keep that culture functioning. When leadership weakens then the culture also weakens. And it is likely that it is the culture that drives the kind of leadership that we have. IOW, we get what we vote for or choose as leadership. The Band lasted 40 years, the third Reich lasted 12 years. Both self destructed due to their culture. You simply can not accept the idea that a cultures lifespan lasts no longer than the moral character of its people. Some last but a very brief time. Cultures are either resilient or frozen by corruption.
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indyjonesouthere
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2023-04-22 21:27
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Quibble-DickZ seem obsessed with ancient Greek homos.
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Zachinoff
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2023-04-23 16:24
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Joe Biden Wants Homebuyers With Good Credit to subsidize home loans for people with bad credit.
Did you ever think it would come to this? This is "equity", NOT equality. It is socialism in a new leftwing/communist agenda. If you allow then to do this it will only get worse. This is NOT your grandfathers Democrat party. WHAT can you do??? Go change your voter registration to Republican. I don't even care if you still want to vote Democrat I'm telling you that if all good Democrats switched to Republican in the next ten days they will get the message. Otherwise they will come for your car, appliances, home, money/savings, retirement, income, everything! Change your voter registration!!! Wake the fuck up before it's too late. Dot Gov is accumulating debt at an unprecedented rate. If they think that raising taxes will lose them too many votes they will just assign "wagon riders" for you to care for. Thats what Obamacare was all about and now it is moving to housing. Thats the point of the credit score scam and also why they are trying to move "wagon riders" to the suburbs.
Re "Justin Trudeau Weeps": This is news? Or did he pee his little panties too? ("Caution: Wet At Both Ends").
The left is desperate to take your guns. Biden (Obama). Garland and the ATF are going to do that in the next two years. They cannot afford to wait to see who wins in 2024. There is a quickening in the political insurrection and they want to close on their plans. Watch for more suspicious school shootings, they need something big. Watch for more FBI agents convincing sub 80 IQ fools to use guns, no AR 15's, in some show boat attack. Watch for fake news to blow it out of proportion. They are coming for your guns and they are running out of time.
Not surprised Judy Blume caved; she was always somewhat ot a panderer.
Do remember when eldest offspring was handed "Memoirs of a Fourth Grade Nothing" to read. Let's just say offspring was supremely unimpressed. In offspring's opinion, younger sib was a spoiled brat ant parents were spineless. Need I add that offspring was at that time in fourth grade and with a couple of younger sibs? Spouse and I were actually compared favourably with the parents in that book. Needless to say, when I buy books for the grandbrats, Judy Blume is not on the list of authors i look to. |