Long Covid and related vague complaints

Quicksearch

Blog Administration

Open login screen

RSS Readers

Thursday, September 29. 2022

Long Covid and related vague complaints

Physicians are trained to be skeptical. I am, sometimes to a fault.

There is a basket of vague medical complaints which include things sometimes diagnosed as Epstein-Barr, Long Covid, Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and so forth.

I don't know what to think about these things. They used to be known as Neurasthenia.

Here's a piece in The Atlantic: Long COVID Has Forced a Reckoning for One of Medicine’s Most Neglected Diseases. Only a couple dozen doctors specialize in chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). Now their knowledge could be crucial to treating millions more patients.

Posted by Dr. Joy Bliss in Psychology, and Dr. Bliss at 14:15 | Comments (14) | Trackbacks (0)

Trackbacks

Trackback specific URI for this entry

No Trackbacks

Comments

Display comments as (Linear | Threaded)

They're is dammed sure something going on! I'll probably be dead before they ever discover (or admit) what it is.
I am a 22yr RN who could have been retired (67yo) but I spent the last 2.5 years caring for Covid patients. But for the last 3 months I have been a totally invalid, blood clots, pneumonia, on home O2, weak as a kitten. I have been seen by about 20 MD's at a regional teaching hospital (where I last worked) and no one has a clue.
I took my J&J when available because it seemed like a good move at the time (I was elbow deep in it then.) I'm off the O2 now and feeling better but NO way I could do a 12 hr shift now.

#1 Hayden Goseek (Link) on 2022-09-29 16:55 (Reply)

I'm sorry for your troubles and I hope you get better.

#1.1 snopercod on 2022-09-29 19:27 (Reply)

I have seennreports of studies of long covid where the victims are mostly middle aged, western, white women with anxiety disorders. In some cases it couldn’t even be shown they had had covid.

I am more sympathetic to chronic lime after reading about Ross Douthat.

#2 Lhfry on 2022-09-29 18:08 (Reply)

The rumor is that long covid mostly occurs with people who have been vaccinated and consequently the conclusion is that it is the vax not covid causing it.

#3 OneGuy on 2022-09-29 19:07 (Reply)

that'd be very smart of the vaccine, causing something a year prior to me getting the vaccine...
Just as the vaccine is very smart in causing my diabetes 10 years prior to me getting the vaccine (yes, I've been told the diabetes I've had since 2010 was caused by the covid vaccine I got in 2021).

But that's the idiocy of the rabid anti-vaxxers.

#3.1 JTW on 2022-09-30 01:04 (Reply)

Every member of my immediate family (6) has had covid, as have most of my extended family (about 30 people). Most were not vaccinated, though a few were forced to accept it, or lose their jobs.

You know who got the sickest of all? My very healthy 26 year-old son who had already gotten the double jab. He nearly ended up in the hospital. Vomiting, severe headache, high fever, cough, etc. The rest of us, for the most part, had mild to moderate colds, though a few were worse. None needed hospitalization.

So don't be so certain the "anti vaxxers" don't have some good reasons for their concerns.

I avoided the covid vaccines, but I'm not "anti vaxx". I've had pretty much every vaccination commonly administered (military brat) and more recently had shingles and pneumonia vaccines as I aged.

But the Covid vaccines were different. Even some of the virologists who invented the mRNA technology were warning against them early on, at least for people in low-risk categories.

Remember the Barrington declaration? Those were DOCTORS.

#3.1.1 Cleve Watson on 2022-09-30 01:51 (Reply)

JTW: that'd be very smart of the vaccine, causing something a year prior to me getting the vaccine...

Temporal tunneling is a side effect of the new woo mRNA technology. Because, why not.

#3.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-09-30 09:28 (Reply)

What is a "rabid anti-vaxxer"? To the rabid pro-vaxxer's it is anyone who dares ask a question or do any research. We are seeing the tip of the iceberg on the Covid vaccine and it isn't good. There is a cover up going on and part of that cover up is the "anti-vaxxer" slur. If they can just get enough of their sheep to keep repeating "anti-vaxxer" maybe they can keep the devastation that the covid vaccine caused hidden.

I simply don't buy into the propaganda that people who took all the vaccines that were recommended prior to Covid but had serious doubts about the Covid vaccine are "anti-Vaxxer's". I mean the label doesn't even make sense. If you wanted to be accurate and not part of the cover up your choice of a label (if a "label" is even called for) would be something more common sense and not "anti-vaxxer". It is exactly because those who are behind pushing the vax and causing these problems now stoop to calling anyone who disagrees an "anti-vaxxer" that red flags are going up. What are they hiding? Well we are beginning to find out what they were hiding and it isn't pretty.

#3.1.3 OneGuy on 2022-09-30 12:09 (Reply)

The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.

#3.1.4 JustMe on 2022-09-30 15:05 (Reply)

There are reported deaths to people who get blood transfusions where the blood came from someone who was vaxxed. The American Red Cross is not separating vaxed blood from unvaxxed blood. This is a problem. We don't know if there are other problems from this because it is purposely being hidden from public view.

IMHO that is the problem, i.e. NOT that the Vax has serious and even deadly side effects BUT that our government is intentionally covering up this important data. Why? Why not make an effort to compile as accurate a set of data as they can, expose anyone who lied and hid the data and let us deal with the facts as they exist? Why is our government still hiding this? I fear that the reason is: 1. it was intentional all along. or 2. The problem is even worse, far worse than the leaks indicate.

#3.1.5 SillyMe on 2022-09-30 15:27 (Reply)

Dunno about long covid, but the other disorders it so resembles (lyme, ME, chronic fatigue, EBV, etc) All seem to be some variation on 1) Chronic inflammation and 2) mitochondrial dysfunction. Which makes sense. Absolutely everything in your body is downstream from your cells being able to produce energy. If they can't produce normal amounts, then yeah, nothing works right anymore. But you can hang around and be slow and miserable for a very long time these days (I think this probably existed prior to the modern age, but probably only rich people survived it-- nobody else could be so physically useless without starving).

The "why" on that is the ten million dollar question.

#4 Churchmouse on 2022-09-29 19:23 (Reply)

Boy, they must get paid by the word at The Atlantic. I read that entire article and kept hoping I would discover some useful information somewhere. I was disappointed. Why didn't they just say (like Bob Dylan wrote): "Something is going on here but [we] don't know what it is, do [we] Mr. Jones."

#5 snopercod on 2022-09-29 19:36 (Reply)

The scientific method does not allow one to disregard something as imaginary, just because it cannot be measured by conventional or existing methodology. Medical science hasn't caught up to the malady yet, that's all - IMHO.

I've known a couple of people with Epstein-Barr, and neither of them was high-strung, plagued by anxiety or mental issues, or neurotic; they had been focused, well-educated productive professionals and the ailment laid them out flat for months, more than a year. It was a slow recovery for both, and one of them has never fully recovered her energy levels.

#6 Aggie on 2022-09-29 20:09 (Reply)

Having had severe cases of Guillane Barre Syndrome (3 times), there is nothing 'vague' about Epstein Barr for me.

#7 SwittersB on 2022-10-02 12:19 (Reply)

Add Comment

Name
Email	(Your e-mail will not show in your comment)
Homepage
In reply to
Comment	By commenting on this site you agree to the site rules listed here. Email addresses will not be displayed and will only be used for email notifications. Quick reference guide: [i] italics [/i], [b] bold [/b], [u] underline [/u], [url] (web address) [/url]. More tips here. Enclosing asterisks marks text as bold (word), underscore are made via _word_. E-Mail addresses will not be displayed and will only be used for E-Mail notifications. To prevent automated Bots from commentspamming, please enter the string you see in the image below in the appropriate input box. Your comment will only be submitted if the strings match. Please ensure that your browser supports and accepts cookies, or your comment cannot be verified correctly. Enter the string from the spam-prevention image above: BBCode format allowed
	Remember Information? Subscribe to this entry

Maggie's Farm

Our Recent Essays Behind the Front Page

Categories

Quicksearch

Links

Blog Administration

RSS Readers

Thursday, September 29. 2022

Long Covid and related vague complaints